Nemo. Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 i think (and i hppe a little bit) that the ninth studio album wont be released before 2013. the guys deserve a break they have worked very hard the last years and a little break is no mistake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redline punk Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Dude, why do you keep saying it's gonna come out in 2012 as if it's a proven fact already? Sure it MIGHT come out in 2012 but no one knows! "Age:10" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbags Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 i think (and i hppe a little bit) that the ninth studio album wont be released before 2013. the guys deserve a break they have worked very hard the last years and a little break is no mistake... They like working. I don't get why everyone is saying this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoodleBob Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 They like working. I don't get why everyone is saying this. I agree 100%. If Green Day 'needed a break' they would be taking one. No one told Billie, Mike, and Tre that they had to start recording songs right now. No one told Billie, Mike, and Tre that they had to do a mini GD show in California. No one told Billie he had to be St. Jimmy for the AI musical. It was Billie, Mike, and Tre's choice to do all of those things. They like to be kept busy. They don't take breaks because they love their job. They love music. They live for music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Billiejoezee- Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 "Age:10" I'm guessing you don't me enough to know my real age. Sure opinion, but when you're writing an opinion you just don't state it as "green day will release a new album in 2012." you make it sound as if they WILL and you have a source to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I agree 100%. If Green Day 'needed a break' they would be taking one. No one told Billie, Mike, and Tre that they had to start recording songs right now. No one told Billie, Mike, and Tre that they had to do a mini GD show in California. No one told Billie he had to be St. Jimmy for the AI musical. It was Billie, Mike, and Tre's choice to do all of those things. They like to be kept busy. They don't take breaks because they love their job. They love music. They live for music. I think working on the show last year lit a creative fire under Billie's ass. Instead of letting the glow fade and then have to pull himself out of a bit of lethargy like they did in the years leading up to 21CB, he spent his downtime from the show in NYC writing, writing, writing and having the time of his life. He's riding that afterglow now and his bandmates appear to be right with him. If they can get the next album stamped out in the next 6-12 months, props to 'em. If they need more time before they feel it's just right, that's fine too. They don't have to answer to anybody for it except themselves -- and especially not to us Monday-morning quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farley drexel hatcher Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I agree 100%. If Green Day 'needed a break' they would be taking one. No one told Billie, Mike, and Tre that they had to start recording songs right now. No one told Billie, Mike, and Tre that they had to do a mini GD show in California. No one told Billie he had to be St. Jimmy for the AI musical. It was Billie, Mike, and Tre's choice to do all of those things. They like to be kept busy. They don't take breaks because they love their job. They love music. They live for music. That's all fine and dandy but they're human and yes, they DO need a break. As much as they 'love music and live for music' they'd burn out if they didn't rest and do normal things. I'm sure they're doing as much of it as they feel they need, but they will also probably take time off before they put out an album, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 That's all fine and dandy but they're human and yes, they DO need a break. As much as they 'love music and live for music' they'd burn out if they didn't rest and do normal things. I'm sure they're doing as much of it as they feel they need, but they also take time off before they put out an album, too. What they've proven over 23 years is that there's nothing they'd rather do than play music together, with each other. This band is one tight fucking unit, and I suspect their post-album/post-tour "recharge" cycles are a little more compressed than we might otherwise expect. One thing I've learned over the years is that if you do what you love doing with people you love doing it with, it really doesn't feel like the traditional definition of "work" -- and I think if that holds true for anyone it holds true for Green Day. Edit: I also think that it also holds true for Billie moreso than for most of us that, in his case, idle hands are truly the devil's playground. When he's got outlets for his creative energy, he stays out of trouble. When he bottles it up, all hell breaks loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbags Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 That's all fine and dandy but they're human and yes, they DO need a break. As much as they 'love music and live for music' they'd burn out if they didn't rest and do normal things. I'm sure they're doing as much of it as they feel they need, but they will also probably take time off before they put out an album, too. They've had months. They don't NEED more than a few months off. It's more than enough to recharge. There's no internal clock stopping them here....if they feel good, and they probably do, why wouldn't they?, then they can go back to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redline punk Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I'm guessing you don't me enough to know my real age. Sure opinion, but when you're writing an opinion you just don't state it as "green day will release a new album in 2012." you make it sound as if they WILL and you have a source to prove it. is just "my opinion", i think GD new album relases in 2012 I'm not guessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoodleBob Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 That's all fine and dandy but they're human and yes, they DO need a break. As much as they 'love music and live for music' they'd burn out if they didn't rest and do normal things. I'm sure they're doing as much of it as they feel they need, but they will also probably take time off before they put out an album, too. I agree with what you're saying, and I hope you didn't take my post as a "GREEN DAY MUST BE KEPT BUSY!" kind of thing. Humans do need breaks, but it depends if they WANT to take a break, which was my point in my other post. the guys deserve a break they have worked very hard the last years ^This post made it seem like Green Day had no choice in whether or not they could take a break. And my reply was that no one told them that they had to do all of those things they recently did, it was the boys choice. I do agree that they probably will take a break before releasing the next studio album, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farley drexel hatcher Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 What they've proven over 23 years is that there's nothing they'd rather do than play music together, with each other. This band is one tight fucking unit, and I suspect their post-album/post-tour "recharge" cycles are a little more compressed than we might otherwise expect. One thing I've learned over the years is that if you do what you love doing with people you love doing it with, it really doesn't feel like the traditional definition of "work" -- and I think if that holds true for anyone it holds true for Green Day. Edit: I also think that it also holds true for Billie moreso than for most of us that, in his case, idle hands are truly the devil's playground. When he's got outlets for his creative energy, he stays out of trouble. When he bottles it up, all hell breaks loose. Yeah, I get what you mean, but there's a big, big difference to playing music with your friends over the summer than there is to actually putting an album together. From what I can gather, that's all they've done so far, with the distractions of summer and friends and family adding to that. So yeah they're having a good time and playing music, but it's not like work to them. However, recording an album is. That might take time. Longer than I think a lot of people are allowing at the moment. They've had months. They don't NEED more than a few months off. It's more than enough to recharge. There's no internal clock stopping them here....if they feel good, and they probably do, why wouldn't they?, then they can go back to work. How do you know they don't need more time off?! That's my exact point here. Everyone is getting way too far ahead of themselves just because we've had this show and all these new songs. People are expecting a new album within months and that's just not realistic in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbags Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Because they've had months. Why would they need more time off? To recuperate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farley drexel hatcher Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 But YOU don't know them, so you can't be the judge of that. That's all i'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesobxfan2296 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 All I'm hoping for is that the album doesn't have religion and politics in it. AI and 21st CBD are great albums, but as I said before, two concept albums is enough. I think it's time they go back to making albums with catchy guitar riffs and lyrics. Anyone agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 All I'm hoping for is that the album doesn't have religion and politics in it. AI and 21st CBD are great albums, but as I said before, two concept albums is enough. I think it's time they go back to making albums with catchy guitar riffs and lyrics. Anyone agree? I think Green Day have always been more than just catchy guitar riffs and lyrics. Their lyrics have always had a sense of humour about them but they've also always had serious themes. Billie writes honestly about what he sees around him and as he's got older that's natutally come to include more of the world, and religion and politics are part of that. If an album contains lyrics about those things that doesn't make it a concept album - a concept album is an album all about one really specific subject or that tells a story. He was touching on religion in One Of My Lies, and on racism in Road To Acceptance, on the state of society on Warning. And there's some pretty catchy guitar riffs on AI and 21st CB, not to mention Stop Drop And Roll.......it's not as simple as one minute they were fun and catchy and the next serious. Seems like the direction they're going in might be a more simple rock and roll one this time but I don't see that as going back. They're not gonna go backwards, it's a new and fresh sound. Billie will continue to write lyrics about whatever he's compelled to write about, and since he's nearly forty that's likely to continue to include a wider view of the world than just his own life and relationships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesobxfan2296 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I think Green Day have always been more than just catchy guitar riffs and lyrics. Their lyrics have always had a sense of humour about them but they've also always had serious themes. Billie writes honestly about what he sees around him and as he's got older that's natutally come to include more of the world, and religion and politics are part of that. If an album contains lyrics about those things that doesn't make it a concept album - a concept album is an album all about one really specific subject or that tells a story. He was touching on religion in One Of My Lies, and on racism in Road To Acceptance, on the state of society on Warning. And there's some pretty catchy guitar riffs on AI and 21st CB, not to mention Stop Drop And Roll.......it's not as simple as one minute they were fun and catchy and the next serious. Seems like the direction they're going in might be a more simple rock and roll one this time but I don't see that as going back. They're not gonna go backwards, it's a new and fresh sound. Billie will continue to write lyrics about whatever he's compelled to write about, and since he's nearly forty that's likely to continue to include a wider view of the world than just his own life and relationships. Yeah, I can't picture that Billie would start writing about masturbation, girlfriends, and anything else he wrote back in the 90s again. If they keep writing about that then it would get monotonous and boring. I think it's good that they test their boundaries and experiment in music so they can keep getting better. I just don't want them to make an American Idiot part II or a 21st Century Breakdown Part II because if they did that, it would just get monotonous, but I can't picture them doing that again. I wouldn't mind small mentions of politics and religion, just not make a big deal out of them as they did with the last two albums. I actually try to listen to American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown without taking the lyrics literal. They're actually great if you don't take the philosophy too seriously. At least it works for me. Something similar to the Hot Tubs would be the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I agree with Hermione about the political/social commentary always being there and always will, it's just gotten so overt in the last two albums. I especially think 21CB was exceedingly blunt. American Idiot is a strong statement but not as excessive as the lyrics to EJN or American Eulogy or even 21CB. I think at some point Billie just started writing every word that came into his head about society, whereas the AI album really wasn't political as a whole outside of the songs AI & Holiday, it felt like the entire 21CB album was trying to make a huge statement through as many 'mass hysteria' type phrases as possible. I also think the lyrics on 21CB are harder to relate to for that reason... like, I can totally agree with them about the hypocrisy of religion and appreciate their willingness to say something about it, but they didn't really say it in accessible language, IMO. And I've got a good vocab and I can analyze and that's fun, but if you look at the way other artists have tackled issues like that over the years, they do it a lot more metaphorically so that it also makes a personalized, relatable song. I'm not saying Billie wasn't being poetic, he was, but I dunno... I almost felt like his lyrics would have made better rally spoken-word beat slam poetry than music. And I love how kickass the music is on the last album, but something didn't totally click for a lot of us, and I think it has to do with the disconnect from the lyrics. So, assuming they continue to observe the issues of the world around them, which I hope they do, I guess I hope they 'bring it home' a little more, like they did on AI. I think that's where 21CB fell short for me, even though billie has said it's his most personal, deepest album, and I'm sure he means that... but I think he got a little grandiose in style and lost sight of something.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Yeah, I can't picture that Billie would start writing about masturbation, girlfriends, and anything else he wrote back in the 90s again. If they keep writing about that then it would get monotonous and boring. I think it's good that they test their boundaries and experiment in music so they can keep getting better. I just don't want them to make an American Idiot part II or a 21st Century Breakdown Part II because if they did that, it would just get monotonous, but I can't picture them doing that again. I wouldn't mind small mentions of politics and religion, just not make a big deal out of them as they did with the last two albums. I actually try to listen to American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown without taking the lyrics literal. They're actually great if you don't take the philosophy too seriously. At least it works for me. Something similar to the Hot Tubs would be the best. Judging by the sound of the new songs I think you could get exactly what you want . If that's what the next album's gonna sound like (or is the next album!). I hope so because I really like the sound of them. I expect the lyrics will still have social and political themes as well as personal themes even if the sound of the songs is lighter, but yeah I can see it being less focused on them than 21st CB and AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesobxfan2296 Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Hmmm I wonder if we'll get video footage of them in the studio recording the album like they did when they made 21st CBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Hmmm I wonder if we'll get video footage of them in the studio recording the album like they did when they made 21st CBD. All 30 seconds of it . They're such teasing bastards, it was only the tiniest little snippets and you basically saw and heard nothing in them. It was still really exciting though , I hope they do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I really can't decide if I should say this here or in the tour expectations thread, because maybe I want this more for the tour, but... I'm really hoping that Billie Joe incorporates some of the things he learned and rocked on Broadway into his singing. Not that the songs need to be more theatrical (although, personally, I do love those songs... but I know we're all kind of sick of the rock opera thing so I wouldn't try to push that agenda), but the way he really stretched his vocal chords was incredible. It brought so much new, unexpected passion to songs that until then I thought were a little bit dull. Like LNOE, the end note, the difference between the studio version and the Broadway version is infuckingcredible. Same goes for Homecoming, really. In the musical version of She's a Rebel, he really belts it out in ways that I think are so much above and beyond what he did before, and probably because he didn't know he could sing like that. Also just, 21 Guns live, he started belting out towards the end 'guns' at the part that's more falsetto on the album. Green Day is spectacular live and that's how they're meant to be heard and seen, but I would love for some of that to translate more into the studio album. Seeing as Billie Joe is interested in writing a musical, I would hope he would incorporate some of that grander singing into Green Day. They've always been accused of being too 'melodic' for a punk band, but I dig that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undómiel Posted August 30, 2011 Author Share Posted August 30, 2011 I just remember with 21st CB going on the website and then one day, there was just the opening chords of 21st CB with a picture of birds turning into something, or something turning into birds (I can't remember!) and that being enough to get all excited about! I hope they drop hints/interesting stuff again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
in_your_face Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Omg i can't imagine how the next album would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Billiejoezee- Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Omg i can't imagine how the next album would be. Orgasmic, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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