-Billiejoezee- Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 So I searched and I didn't find anything like this. So hopefully this stays open. Can a mod fix my title typo btw? So I was wondering, What couple/Story Plot do you guys prefer? Christian and Gloria and the 21st century breakdown story, or Jesus of suburbia and whatsername, and the American Idiot story? It's not "what album do you like more", it's about the plots, the stories that were written in the album. Get it? It can be mix match, you may like JOS and whatsername better, but you may like the plot for 21st CB better because you like... Idk.. The way it was organized, and because you understand their lives better. So I'd like people to share their thoughts. (note; please don't base the AI story on the musical. Because they changed alot around. I'm basing it on what green day explained to us and what we understood while reading it.) My opinion, I'll start with the story I like more. I really like AI, the way it was written, with the dates and the locations, it was organized more than 21st cb which only had the acts, (which also made it harder to understand) and the feeling of AI, the image I got as I imagined JOS running away from everything, I really liked it. But I prefer 21st cb story instead. It was hard to understand it, but I like how it was written as a post bush era, with this couple running away from everything, one person holding up the torch as the other tried to burn everything with it. So, anyone wanna share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarina. Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I don't really see the whole Christian and Gloria story in 21st Century Breakdown. I know it's there somewhere, but it's more hidden in the lyrics. American Idiot, and the story about JOS and Whatsername, feels much more like a concept album. That way, with the songs/lyrics really fitting the story, I 'prefer' American Idiot. When I first saw the thread title, I wanted to reply with just 'Nimrod.' Ahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetOnOverdrive Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I think we had something like this? Maybe...I kind of remember this discussion before. Anyway, AI FTW. It is a much more story driven album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjernpqvrnbfv Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 The plot of American Idiot reminds me a little bit of 'The Catcher in the Rye', because Jesus of Suburbia kinda leaves everything behind but in the end he comes back as a changed person. Just like Holden. And that's what I love about it. The way it is written makes it even better What I really like about 21st Century Breakdown is, that it's kinda hard to understand. You have to use your brain and your ears to understand it and it's not that scripted as AI. You can see it they way you want to see it. I absolutely love both of the albums and their stories so I really can't decide :L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tess_S Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 For me its JOS and Whatsername Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Billiejoezee- Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 Yeah the story in 21st CB is really hard to understand, that's what I like about it though. You can use your imagination, as for AI, it's well scripted and it's so much easier to understand. I'm not a big fan of JOS and whatsername. I really don't see whatsername helping JOS in anyway, and I'm not a big fan of that. I think the JOS video changed my view on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadi_7 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 i love 21CB the album more than American idiot but christian and Gloria are less touched in the album but American idiot is more complicated than 21CB so i prefer 21CB but JOS is cooler than Christian in one way but in the other way Christian fights for something and i don't know if JOS do that so i prefer 21CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euphoric-pareidolias Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 thats kinda hard to choose but i'd say Jos and Whatsername cos its more clear and evident about their relationship throughout the lyrics but i still love Christian and glorias story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 21st Century Breakdown for the win. JOS and Whatsername are idiots, lol. At least Gloria stands up for what she believes in and at least Christian remembers her name!!! I do agree it's hard to follow this story... and more people will have very different interpretations. I have to interpret it for a class and I'm having a hard time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin105 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 21st Century Breakdown has no plotline. It's just got 2 characters in it. I perfer Christian and Gloria's looks but as a couple JOS and Whatsername cause there like typical punk rockers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayfabe Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I really like them both, but I prefer AI. The acts in 21CB seem slightly pointless, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Haze Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I prefer AI. I just find the storyline more interesting, and as stated before, the whole dates/places things gives another whole feeling to the story. It's definetely easier to get into the story and characters and easier to relate to them, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayfabe Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 21st Century Breakdown for the win. JOS and Whatsername are idiots, lol. At least Gloria stands up for what she believes in and at least Christian remembers her name!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E!!i Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I'd say Jesus of Suburbia and Whatsername but I like St. Jimmy, the dark side of Jesus, even more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Billiejoezee- Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 21st Century Breakdown for the win. JOS and Whatsername are idiots, lol. At least Gloria stands up for what she believes in and at least Christian remembers her name!!! I do agree it's hard to follow this story... and more people will have very different interpretations. I have to interpret it for a class and I'm having a hard time. I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligunn86 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I do really like them both, But yeah I would have to say that I like american idiot more. I just get into and relate to the story more. 21cb is still pretty good though. I just like AI because its just more relatable and I really love things that relate to me alot. Means more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petros Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 JOS and Whatsername for me!!!For sure the plot is so much cleaner in that album. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy. Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I prefer American Idiot. idgaf about the "characters" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I think definitely 21CB and Christian and Gloria. I agree that the story's quite hard to understand but once you've got some idea of what's going on it's just as good as any book, and they're really strong characters. I like the story in AI but it doesn't seem as meaningful or like it has as much direction. I can relate to 21CB and both characters a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margo 39 smooth Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I tend to like the 21stcb plot more. Maybe because this was the first Green Day album i ever bought and listened to, and i like the whole class of 13 thing too (im class 0f 14 but close enough) I just understand it more because AI was for the youth of the time when i was only 7 or 8, and 21stcb came out when i started becoming more rebellious and independant and i guess i could relate to it more. But i also really love the AI plot just dont relate to it as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxAndPlaid Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I like both but I prefer Christan and Gloria more as characters. When I listen to American idiot, I feel like Jesus and Whatshername have a lot of thoughts and complaints about life, but they just are along for the ride. They don't seem to make many solid decisions for themselves. And in the end, they end up thinking of what they should have done and there is really no hope or effort left in them. I feel like Christian and Gloria are tougher, more determined people. It's like, they're just as introspective & they ask questions about life; then take action. They dislike their situation so they are on a mission to change it. So even when things aren't perfect at the end; there is still hope, and they still seem to be trying. Put simply; JOS would say " I don't like this! Get me out of here somebody?!?" when Christan would say "I don't like this! so I'm gonna rip it apart into what I want it to be!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Billiejoezee- Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 I prefer American Idiot. idgaf about the "characters" oh my god maddy. I don't know why but this made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margo 39 smooth Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 However... I have to say after hearing Viva La Gloria and it becoming one of my favourite songs, that I prefer Gloria's 'personality' (if you can call it that) over Whatsername's :/ She seems much more of an attractive character - I think Whatsername is painted kind of dirtily? And I don't mean it so much in a sexual sense if you get me. I totally get that. I like Gloria as a person more than Whatsername. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabel Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I don't really think about it too often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Billiejoezee- Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 . So even when things aren't perfect at the end; there is still hope, and they still seem to be trying. Yeah, and with See The Light being the last song, it's gives me the feeling that there's still hope for them yaknow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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