Juan Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I gotta say I really like the album as a whole, I give it...yes 5 stars. Also, murder city will not be a singleI say 21 guns, american eulogy and something else. Before the lobotomy probably. Murder City is as good as Letterbomb which is an amazing song, but it's best if it stays in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose armstrong Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I really fucking like this album. After TWO listens I know all the words basically and I haven't read any lyrics. I think what I like most about this album is they are still experimenting with there new sound but it's something everyone can enjoyOld School fans = Murder City, Last Of the American Girls, The Static Age, Horseshoes & HandgrenadesAI fans = 21st CB, East Jesus Nowhere, 21 Guns, Know Your EnemyI love AI, I hate "know your enemy"why you have norton in the first place?here, in the US every PC comes with that shit with a 30-days or so trialmust be something to do with our universal health care.Restless Heart Syndrom makes me laugh."I've got a really bad disease." i was thinking, "Billie Joe caught a sexually trasmitted disease." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Austen Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Do YOU like it? And what do you mean, a different beast?Being a beast is a good thing, right? lolBasically, it's a lot to digest at one time. The album is 1 hour and 9 min - it's really ambitious and experimental. For me, some of the songs don't fully work, others do. I feel like American Idiot hit just the right spot, in making a nice little concept album (and while it was simplistic in story arc, and short in lenghth - compared to this ) - it still just wrapped up nicely as a whole.This, this feels more like a true opera. It's epic in scope, and I'm not sure how I feel about it.So to answer your question, yes I do like it. Do I love it? Not sure. Do I love some songs? Yes. I think an album like this needs weeks, maybe months to digest. It's certainly not hitting me as quick as AI. So in conclusion, the album is complex, and it challenges the listeners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose armstrong Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 i have no idea.Restless Heart SyndromE was really boring until the end, that was pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Is there an update on the FLAC version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezurgam Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I always think he's gonna singI'm elatedConstipatedStop destroying my favorite song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbug Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 It stands not mightily but as a god. It definitely has to be taken in as a whole.21CB kind of has a story. It is just kind of hard to grasp because the first person perspective changes for different songs with little indication or can be applied to both characters. I like the fact that it is not linear though.As a god? lol Essplain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Billy Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 21 Guns reminds me of Boulevard of Broken Dreams; so in that sense, i'm not feeling this song as much.i do like American Eulogy though, it sounds of something off of Fallout 3 at the begining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Austen Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Is there an update on the FLAC version?Yeah, dude is seeding like shit - and it's taking forever to download. Honestly, if he doesn't fix the connection on his end, we won't have this till tomorrow. Sheez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttweed182 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I love AI, I hate "know your enemy"I love AI it's my second favorite album. Can you guess the first I used to hate Know Your Enemy but like Dj Rosstar said a while ago it made more sense as a song on the album then as a standout single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldoon Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 21CB kind of has a story. It is just kind of hard to grasp because the first person perspective changes for different songs with little indication or can be applied to both characters. I like the fact that it is not linear though.Right, I should've clarified myself...21CB is much less linear in its "story" than AI was. I still think that it relies on imagery more than a discernible story though. Viva La Gloria!, Last of the American Girls, and Christian's Inferno are great character songs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Billy Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Jose, in my defense Billie is trying to pull something Who-and-Beatle-like off here. he is not Roger Daltry nor John Lennon, but i do like the ending a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Yeah, dude is seeding like shit - and it's taking forever to download. Honestly, if he doesn't fix the connection on his end, we won't have this till tomorrow. Sheez. So do we know whether it's legit or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Austen Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I always think he's gonna singI'm elatedConstipatedActually wouldn't be far off. Song is about pharmaceutical drugs. Most folks get high off Pain Killers, and those most certainly get you constipated. All that Codeine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBounce04 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Yeah, dude is seeding like shit - and it's taking forever to download. Honestly, if he doesn't fix the connection on his end, we won't have this till tomorrow. Sheez. Have you checked the mininova torrent yet? I'm debating on downloading it!Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbug Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I always think he's gonna singI'm elatedConstipatedBasically, it's a lot to digest at one time. The album is 1 hour and 9 min - it's really ambitious and experimental. For me, some of the songs don't fully work, others do. I feel like American Idiot hit just the right spot, in making a nice little concept album (and while it was simplistic in story arc, and short in lenghth - compared to this ) - it still just wrapped up nicely as a whole.This, this feels more like a true opera. It's epic in scope, and I'm not sure how I feel about it.So to answer your question, yes I do like it. Do I love it? Not sure. Do I love some songs? Yes. I think an album like this needs weeks, maybe months to digest. It's certainly not hitting me as quick as AI. So in conclusion, the album is complex, and it challenges the listeners.Ya know what? That actually makes me happy. They deserve to make an album like that, for themselves if for no other reason. To challenge themselves and us. I look forward to hearing it front to back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I love AI, I hate "know your enemy"here, in the US every PC comes with that shit with a 30-days or so trialmust be something to do with our universal health care.I don't think I hate KYE, it's just meh, it works in the context of the album though. But as a single and shit...eh...y'knowBut Norton is like fucking with a hooker with a spray-on condom, you may think you're protected but you'll die in 20 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Austen Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Have you checked the mininova torrent yet? I'm debating on downloading it!RyanI am. Once it's done, I'm going to have a friend run a spectrals check on it. This will prove whether it's 100% legit, or a transcode.So do we know whether it's legit or not?No we don't. Because, someone has to download it completely first, before they can run a spectral check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBounce04 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I am. Once it's done, I'm going to have a friend run a spectrals check on it. This will prove whether it's 100% legit, or a transcode.Sweet, let me know once you do. Appreciate it!Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketcase of suburbia Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I gotta say I really like the album as a whole, I give it...yes 5 stars. Also, murder city will not be a singleI say 21 guns, american eulogy and something else. Before the lobotomy probably. Murder City is as good as Letterbomb which is an amazing song, but it's best if it stays in the back.I'm not sure about American Eulogy as a single, it's great and one of my favorites but I doubt it will work as a single. I think 21 Guns, Restless Heart Syndrome, Before the Lobotomy, East Jesus Nowhere and one of the Glorias are the most likely to become singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Jose, in my defense Billie is trying to pull something Who-and-Beatle-like off here. he is not Roger Daltry nor John Lennon, but i do like the ending a lot.but no one will ever be John or Roger. I think about it as a tip of the hat, and I don't even think of the song as a Beatle or Who styled kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezurgam Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 As a god? lol Essplain.I think Billie said this in an interview before but the album shouldn't be really just a collection of songs that's just merely a collection of songs or singles. It should be something that has to be taken in as a whole. This album, much like the most of the great albums of the past, accomplishes exactly that; it has to be listened from start to finish to get a real grasp of it. Each song is a part of something that is bigger than itself. It's kinda like the belief that we are all part of something bigger than ourselves, something like God possibly? Bad comparison though because of East Jesus Nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Billy Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 but no one will ever be John or Roger. I think about it as a tip of the hat, and I don't even think of the song as a Beatle or Who styled kind of thing.in his own form he is; he won't exactly copy a song's form, but he will base it around a song he likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose armstrong Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Jose, in my defense Billie is trying to pull something Who-and-Beatle-like off here. he is not Roger Daltry nor John Lennon, but i do like the ending a lot.true,you have a point.but I, that I am EXTREMELY Beatles familiarized, don't see too much Beatle in the song as you guys say there is.not all songs with an orchestra and/or a piano are Beatleish.like I said before, maybe I relate to the song, that's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Austen Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 UPDATE: Looks like the FLAC on what.cd might be a transcode. I'm guessing this 320kbps rip and the one on Mininova is also a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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