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I really liked this read. I said somewhere else I wished Mike would talk more, and I still do. The stuff he says is always awesome, and when he said about being "at the top of the mountain" and liking it, kinda made it easier to understand than anything Billie would have said. I also liked Tré's whole analogy about the Bush administration.

I went to a Baptist church when I was, like, 14, and they basically said, ‘If you do not accept Jesus Christ into your life, you’re going to burn for eternity.’ I was this 14-year-old kid, and I was scared shitless.
That made me laugh.

Seriously though, East Jesus Nowhere is the one song I'm looking forward to the most and have been since I heard what it was about when it was still "March of the Dogs". I know what I believe now, and this song just really interests me. Especially since I've met people of blind faith.

Good read. Thanks for posting.

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Thanks for posting that!

I loved reading it. :)

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"his baby belongs to us now" :wub:

I'd have his baby

:ninja:

Naw, he's married.

I'd have Tre's baby

I'm awful.

I liked that part too. I like the way they put it, having 'post-partum depression' it must've been a difficult record to make and let go of. Wow.

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It's funny how they mentioned Warner were getting nervous at the beginning of the year when it seemed as though the record would never come out, I noticed that too. For a while it seemed as if they'd spoken too soon about the release and the artwork and wished they had waited. I can definitely see it being a hard thing, letting go of something like that.

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It's funny how they mentioned Warner were getting nervous at the beginning of the year when it seemed as though the record would never come out, I noticed that too. For a while it seemed as if they'd spoken too soon about the release and the artwork and wished they had waited. I can definitely see it being a hard thing, letting go of something like that.

poor biwee. :(

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I enjoyed reading that! Sounds like they really put everything into this album, not that you'd imagine anything less from these guys. And I always love Green Day's analogies, a couple of great ones here :D

I always thought the album after AI would get slated by the critics no matter what, but it seems to be received well by most so far. I think its also a lot down to Green Day leaving it the right amount of time as well as the quality of the album.

Yeah me too, I thought they'd be jumping at any chance to slate it. The amount of positivity makes me think it really must be good :)

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I enjoyed reading that! Sounds like they really put everything into this album, not that you'd imagine anything less from these guys. And I always love Green Day's analogies, a couple of great ones here :D

I loved this paragraph:

What these remarks highlight, alongside Armstrong’s enduring distrust of anything that smacks of institutionalisation, is that
Green Day are as personal as they are political
. What Armstrong describes as “
the sense of loneliness
” he believes has been a
consistent theme on all their albums
keeps pace throughout 21st Century Breakdown with the record’s more demotic strand.
It is this conflict, as Armstrong sees it, between what unites us and what is unique to us that informs both our interaction with, and our need to question and to keep a distance from, society.
The success of American Idiot only deepened that conflict, he says, not least because “
it was the first time ever that everyone was saying very nice things about us. And that was strangely confusing
.”

I love the whole article - it's quite meaty and full of new quotes/information, but that paragraph in particular really speaks to me - almost as powerfully as a Green Day song :).

It's funny how they mentioned Warner were getting nervous at the beginning of the year when it seemed as though the record would never come out, I noticed that too. For a while it seemed as if they'd spoken too soon about the release and the artwork and wished they had waited. I can definitely see it being a hard thing, letting go of something like that.

Yeah, it's almost like Warner didn't know what to do next. It seemed like they weren't really promoting it. Maybe they just weren't sure it was really going to happen on time, so they held off for a bit.

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“One thing I learnt a long time ago,” Armstrong says with no trace of rancour, “is that you can’t control anything, that when people interpret a record, it’s just chaos.

I loved this, as it kind of was along the lines of some other disccusions going on right now on the board.

A lot fo the things he said about Religion really hit home..

"If you’re not paying attention right now, that’s Satan taking your mind away.’ It was evil. And me, I have ADHD, so I’m there thinking about a million things. I mean, God forbid that you might be sitting in church thinking, ‘God, I’d really like to f*** that girl.’ You know, ‘Satan, get out of my brain.’ ”

I had that told to me, I am not joking, adn I have ADHD too, and so I thought that was it. The jig was up. Anyway, I say that because I am really interested to hear the parts of the record that go into religion.

The album is a masterpiece, rather, because it realises its ambitions.

My brain really will not stop now.

I am so excited to hear this.

Thanks again, a great article with some interesting points. :D

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Does Billie really have ADHD?

and what does he mean by "It’s kind of like having post-partum depression,”?

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Does Billie really have ADHD?

and what does he mean by "It’s kind of like having post-partum depression,”?

google is your friend.

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but your not. huh?

I just dont see the point of typing it out for you when you can look it up yourself. Thats what most of us do.

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Does Billie really have ADHD?

and what does he mean by "It’s kind of like having post-partum depression,”?

This is a long article, but you can get teh idea of what post partum depression is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_partum_depression.

I looked on Google for the ADHD, and there was a ton of stuff. I would Google it, but I would not be surprised if he does.

I do not know for certain though.

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That's a really good insightful interview. I love it when you get a real feeling about how their minds work when creating something like this. The writer has clearly tried to understand both the album's concept, the band themselves and what makes them tick.

It does seem from the reviews we've had so far that the intellectual heavyweight papers (Times, Guardian etc.) are really getting the message of the album whereas the worst reviews are coming from people with pre-formed ideas who've given it a quick listen and just not thought about it at all. Ok not everyone will like that sort of music but some just aren't trying to understand the messages.

Anyway I really liked some of the little quotes in here and the idea of Billie still trying to make it even better long after it should have been finished. No wonder its got 17 tracks.

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I loved this paragraph:

What these remarks highlight, alongside Armstrong’s enduring distrust of anything that smacks of institutionalisation, is that
Green Day are as personal as they are political
. What Armstrong describes as “
the sense of loneliness
” he believes has been a
consistent theme on all their albums
keeps pace throughout 21st Century Breakdown with the record’s more demotic strand.
It is this conflict, as Armstrong sees it, between what unites us and what is unique to us that informs both our interaction with, and our need to question and to keep a distance from, society.
The success of American Idiot only deepened that conflict, he says, not least because “
it was the first time ever that everyone was saying very nice things about us. And that was strangely confusing
.”

I love the whole article - it's quite meaty and full of new quotes/information, but that paragraph in particular really speaks to me - almost as powerfully as a Green Day song :).

Wow I agree, they really seem to "get" the band and they put it so well. Especially "Green Day are as personal as they are political", that's such a key part of Green Day and it's not often you see it said.

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I didn't expect them to be in Culture today, I was so shocked when it fell out the packet and there was a massive pic of them on the front.

The article's great, it really gets into their motivation and inspirations. Just wish Mike would talk more though, he seems to be able to sum up what Billie's saying really well.

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