IscoredWaddlesgoals Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 And that's why they're re-releasing American Idiot on vinyl this year, and doing a musical of it!I hate Warner because they're showing contempt to fans of their artists by removing their videos from Youtube because they want more money from them. Great way to go about it, a method that hurts no one but their own fans. Not to say Green Day should leave them, I'm hardly an expert on the subject. Just a shame they have to be associated with such a company.Sense at last ! I hate Warners as much as the next man/woman, but leaving would be incredibly risky. They'd be losing a lot of resources, staff and general back up. Adeline isn't big enough to distribute cd's and pay for tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ila Reto Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 that'd be kind of cool if they signed over onto Adeline or Jingletown records completely. or whichever label phgp's on. either way, green day's going to stay signed on with Reprise and Warner because they've signed a contract, and breaking that contract could lead to a possible lawsuit. which im sure we dont want to happen...i just dont like warner in general, for multiple reasons which i've previously expressed. agh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Punk Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 The fact there's 4.5 years between American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown has absolutely nothing to do with Warner whatsoever. That's just Green Day taking their time and trying to reach the top of their creativity in stead of mass-producing new music to keep the teenie 'ohmygawd boulevard of broken dreams is like the greatest song ever and billyjo is soooo hot' crowd happy. That is sort of what happened with Insomniac, that album was way too soon after Dookie, they didn't have time to relax and really calm down from everything that's gotten over them after switching to a major label. And that almost got the best of them. Remember they had to cut down the Insomniac tour because they were overstressed and overexhausted. Green Day have enough status now to make a lot of decisions by themselves, regardless of the fact that they're signed at a major label like Warner. And that's why there was 3 years between Nimrod and Warning, and why there's 4.5 years between AI and 21CB. As for the alter egos,I really don't think that was in any way meant to make a statement. That was just simply the guys having fun, probably just messing around at band practise and then suddenly realise what they were doing was actually fun enough to record. If you state that Green Day need alter ego's to express their 'ideas' (I'm guessing you meant the more controversial ideas) you kind of missed the point of American Idiot and even some of Warning.I seen, and you've changed my perspective o this whole topic. Thanks. But still, i can see them as independent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelofSuburbia Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 ^ you're welcome I'm doubtful if Green Day could go indie actually. Remember, the reason they signed to a major label was mainly because Lookout just couldn't handle the massive request for the band anymore. Of course, Lookout Records is a very small independent label. They're probably able to pull it off at something like Epitaph. However, I still don't think that'd be the best idea ever because they'd probably have to cut a lot on tours since the budget is way lower, and it's gonna be hard to keep on track with their distribution. People on this thread are comparing this to the way Less Than Jake and The Offspring went independent. Sure they did it, Green Day is just a lot bigger than both of these bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootbeersoup Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 ^Hmm, Warner are also holding Youtube hostage by removing their videos because they want more money from them. Fair enough if they want a better deal, but doing it this way harms no one but fans of their own artists. Bit of a shitty way of operating imo.Yeah I hate it too. Show me a record company that's not a total collective douchebag though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendepent Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 they don't need to, indie is way better, yes, less distribution, but they have plenty of fans to keep them goingyeah, but this is easy when you live in USA, I live very, but very far away from there...I put an example: here in Chile, didn't exist a way to buy the 39SOSH or Kerplunk, until reprise re-release that in 2003, and I see these in 2007, or I can't buy directly the Money Money 2020 or Stop, Drop and Roll, unless I'd buy it from a virtual shop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelofSuburbia Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 ^ exactly, you wouldn't believe how excited I got when I saw Stop, Drop and Roll in an actual record store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldwing7500 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 ADELINE IS OWNED BY WARNER!!Its part of the EAST/WEST subsidary within Warner..And the majority of you have just read the punk rock 101 book and decided you hate Waner coz it's a major label.Warner Bros is the best one out of all the majors. Going independent could work for GREEN DAY coz have how big they are, meaning people would still buy their records,but to be honest, Warners not really done anythin to piss all off majorlly all this time, so it's all good.As for the HLAHG release, it'll come, just think about it. Why release it now on the eve of a new record? it'd be like over shadowing their new creation with old work.Like on BIAB when Mike says about getting out of that shadow of Dookie, GREEN DAY now have this huge shadow over them, being American Idiot.Just give it time, and stop crying about it.I'm A Tad Suspicious About Youyeah, but this is easy when you live in USA, I live very, but very far away from there...I put an example: here in Chile, didn't exist a way to buy the 39SOSH or Kerplunk, until reprise re-release that in 2003, and I see these in 2007, or I can't buy directly the Money Money 2020 or Stop, Drop and Roll, unless I'd buy it from a virtual shop...I Got Money, Money 2020! I Bought It At CD Plusyeah, but this is easy when you live in USA, I live very, but very far away from there...I put an example: here in Chile, didn't exist a way to buy the 39SOSH or Kerplunk, until reprise re-release that in 2003, and I see these in 2007, or I can't buy directly the Money Money 2020 or Stop, Drop and Roll, unless I'd buy it from a virtual shop...I Got Money, Money 2020! I Bought It At CD Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juju Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 it certainly would be a refreshing change for them (and us), and I would have oodles of more respect for them if they went indie, but I have to agree with Kryssi on page 1; they're far too big to go indie now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I wanna be a spanish grammar nazi as well.then you are oneyeah, but this is easy when you live in USA, I live very, but very far away from there...I put an example: here in Chile, didn't exist a way to buy the 39SOSH or Kerplunk, until reprise re-release that in 2003, and I see these in 2007, or I can't buy directly the Money Money 2020 or Stop, Drop and Roll, unless I'd buy it from a virtual shop...who says I'm american? I'm Venezuelan and I looked hard to find Smooth and Kerplunk. I still think they should go indie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydée Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 then you are onewho says I'm american? I'm Venezuelan and I looked hard to find Smooth and Kerplunk. I still think they should go indiewhy thank you :]and yes, I couldn't find those two here. I orderer Kerplunk from Amazon and I still don't have 39Smooth, waiting for the new album to buy them together.and I also think they should go independent, they are big enough and they would do whatever the fuck they want. Maybe they don't give a shit if people post their videos on youtube & stuff, but they have to say that for warner. Idk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take me to Christie Road Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 First off all I don't think the problem is between Warners and Green Day, it's between Warners and the fans. Green Day have always been able to do what they want on Reprise. It wouldn't be a wise choice for them to leave, and they really have no reason to. If they were to switch to Adeline however, I think Adeline Records might literally explode. When 1039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours and Kerplunk were on Lookout! (after the success of Dookie and the following albums) the label had to hire more people just to take care of the demand for Green Day. The label eventually couldn't handle Green Day any longer and collapsed. Just think if Adeline had to manage all of Green Day's CDs. Not only would their focus have to shift from all of their current artists to mainly handle Green Day, but they wouldn't be able to devote any time to merchandise or touring. All in all it would be best for Green Day to stay with Warner, despite how badly the label treats the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendepent Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 First off all I don't think the problem is between Warners and Green Day, it's between Warners and the fans. Green Day have always been able to do what they want on Reprise. It wouldn't be a wise choice for them to leave, and they really have no reason to. If they were to switch to Adeline however, I think Adeline Records might literally explode. When 1039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours and Kerplunk were on Lookout! (after the success of Dookie and the following albums) the label had to hire more people just to take care of the demand for Green Day. The label eventually couldn't handle Green Day any longer and collapsed. Just think if Adeline had to manage all of Green Day's CDs. Not only would their focus have to shift from all of their current artists to mainly handle Green Day, but they wouldn't be able to devote any time to merchandise or touring. All in all it would be best for Green Day to stay with Warner, despite how badly the label treats the fans.I agree, while Green day makes music, all is good...But we must find a form to fuck warner.... I still thinking about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Luigi Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I hate Warner with a raging passion, I wish Green Day would leave Warner and sign to somebody else. I don't care what label, just as long as it's not Warner, or any company that's owned by Warner. Either that or I would love to see Reprise break away from Warner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musse Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 The deputy managing director of Warner (I dunno about that word, I wish it's correct), Tommy Page, said that he'd rather be working in some smaller company that isn't dependent on what Wall Street wants...What a horrible translation I found an article from a Finnish newspaper.So maybe we aren't the only people who think Warner isn't the best thing in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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