**nobodylikesyou** Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Green Day at 924 GilmanBrian Edge, author of "924 Gilman: The Story So Far", discusses how the perception of Green Day has changed over the past 20 years, and how it continues to affect 924 Gilman.http://www.dailycal.org/article/103751/best_thing_in_townIt was a good read and I like the video too!From the video I found these....http://www.pbase.com/murraybowles/green_day&page=allseen most them but still fun to see again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 That is such a great articel. Thank you for posting!I cant believe that this is only a few miles away from me...and I still didnt go there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy's Little Nightmare Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 That is a good read. I think Gilman is always going to be a part of the guys... but from past interviews with them, the article seems a bit... false. Like, they say there was never any animosity, but... I remember an interview with the guys where they snuck in when it was closed, and Billie found 'Billie Joe must die' written in the girl's bathroom.Anyway, I'm sure it's true that these people have grown up and stuff now as well, and aren't as resentful. It just seems that they're trying to make it out like there was never any sort of hostility towards the guys after they signed to Reprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan. Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I have never been a fan of those fucking hardcore poser punks that believe it is their responsibility to decide what is punk and what is not... I say that if you can make a living doing something you love, than it is nobodies damn business to say that you are selling out. It pisses me off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayley Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Cool. That was a sweet article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LusciousZ Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 This is a really good article. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
924Nimrod Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 That was a very interesting article. It's amazing to see how they still echo through that place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 That is a good read. I think Gilman is always going to be a part of the guys... but from past interviews with them, the article seems a bit... false. Like, they say there was never any animosity, but... I remember an interview with the guys where they snuck in when it was closed, and Billie found 'Billie Joe must die' written in the girl's bathroom.Anyway, I'm sure it's true that these people have grown up and stuff now as well, and aren't as resentful. It just seems that they're trying to make it out like there was never any sort of hostility towards the guys after they signed to Reprise.maybe the hostility was between the fans/punk crowd and the band, not as much Gilman and Green Day. I dunno, those guys are smart, I am sure when they signed with a major label they knew their gilman days were over. From what I have read, they were hurt by the way they were treated by a crowd they thought they were part of. That crowd just turned on them as soon as they signed with a major label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy's Little Nightmare Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 ^ Yeah, that could definitely be a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LusciousZ Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I have never been a fan of those fucking hardcore poser punks that believe it is their responsibility to decide what is punk and what is not... I say that if you can make a living doing something you love, than it is nobodies damn business to say that you are selling out. It pisses me off...It wasn't so much about selling out their punk ideals, which is what most people see. It was more about the camaraderie of the whole scene. It was just an exciting time and when green day decided to leave all of that to sign to a major label it was disapointing for everyone because they felt abandoned by one of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy's Little Nightmare Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 They couldn't have ever stayed on an indie label, though. There was just too much demand for them. Larry Livermore knew it. I believe he's said it. And I mean... they weren't trying to abandon anyone. But like... they needed to live their lives doing what they wanted to do. It couldn't always be about the community there. Sometimes, people just have to live for themselves.Those guys just loved making music too much. It would have been very tragic had they not signed to Reprise and been able to do what they love for as long as they have. Why that bothered anyone so much, and felt like abandonment is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Very interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxy Crimefighter Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 IntriuguingBut this 'don't ask don't tell' bitchfight that gilman has being trying to create needs to fucking stop. every article I read they bash Green Day at one point or another.even in this one they make little snide comments, and then saying 'no, its not them..its our IDEALS'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drink Drank Punk Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I have never been a fan of those fucking hardcore poser punks that believe it is their responsibility to decide what is punk and what is not... I say that if you can make a living doing something you love, than it is nobodies damn business to say that you are selling out. It pisses me off...You don't even know those people. I have a lot of friends that frequently go or went to Gilman, and they are really nice people, not "fucking hardcore poser punks". Some of them even like Green Day. A lot of people that go there today like green day, however, they do go against what the Gilman was founded upon so they were banned. Anyways, that was a good article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Cool, that was an interesting read.They couldn't have ever stayed on an indie label, though. There was just too much demand for them. Larry Livermore knew it. I believe he's said it. And I mean... they weren't trying to abandon anyone. But like... they needed to live their lives doing what they wanted to do. It couldn't always be about the community there. Sometimes, people just have to live for themselves.Those guys just loved making music too much. It would have been very tragic had they not signed to Reprise and been able to do what they love for as long as they have. Why that bothered anyone so much, and felt like abandonment is beyond me.I agree. I mean, the club itself had a certain set of rules and way of doing things, so no problem there. But I think the individual people who were part of the scene who had animosity towards Green Day were simply being childish. Green Day didn't owe those people anything, I don't know how they had such big egos as to think they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumstick Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 That is such a great articel. Thank you for posting!I cant believe that this is only a few miles away from me...and I still didnt go there...what are you waiting for? anyway..great article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
music_that_is Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Thanks for posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYR Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 That is such a great articel. Thank you for posting!I cant believe that this is only a few miles away from me...and I still didnt go there...Dude seriously i would kill to go there(well maybe not that far but id do alot of things to go there).That place is like...a legend.Goddamnit you should seriously go there.Im sure your gonna love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disappearing Boy Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 thanks for posting. i had always wondered what the relationship is between laurence livermore and green day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rita Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 This is a really good read. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LusciousZ Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 thanks for posting. i had always wondered what the relationship is between laurence livermore and green day.There's an interview with Lawrence from a few years ago. I don't think they're too fond of him ever since Lookout went under, but he seems to really like them even now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy's Little Nightmare Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 He had nothing to do with Lookout! going under. He didn't even own the label anymore when it did. He said himself he was very disappointed in the way things went with it, and he supported Green Day's decision to pull their albums from the label. I doubt they'd have a problem with him for something that wasn't his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rymenocerous Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 wow this is a good article besides the fact that there was definitely hostility. This article seems to cover that up...(like a lot of people already mentioned). I only consider bands selling out when it becomes about the money, fame, clothes, girls/guys, etc. Once that passion and true love of music is lost in a band they are petty, piece of shit sell outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LusciousZ Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 wow this is a good article besides the fact that there was definitely hostility. This article seems to cover that up...(like a lot of people already mentioned). I only consider bands selling out when it becomes about the money, fame, clothes, girls/guys, etc. Once that passion and true love of music is lost in a band they are petty, piece of shit sell outs.unless that's what they wanted to begin with. which would make them pretty retarded but I wouldn't call it selling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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