Fuzz Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Since Friday when we posted up the news on GDA about the new songs, one of the top 5 sites pointing to GDA is a Sum41 site that talks about Green Day borrowing the title "March of the Dogs" off a Sum 41 song which was released in July 2007. But before them the title was used by Nine Inch Nails in a song they released in 1994. So either way it's not an original title. However, Green Day's version is explained as a "Religious rant" while the Sum 41 song was about the government (i believe). So that poo poo's that idea.However, we've also heard from people saying Green Day ripped off Wonderwall's music for Boulevard of Broken Dreams - which ended up together on the remix "Boulevard of Broken Songs" (download here #21). Now there's an article out from PopEater.com (blog from AOL News), talking about artists that "borrow" from other artists. While there are some really obvious ones like Vanilla Ice taking David Bowie/Queen music from "Under Pressure" for "Ice Ice Baby", they actually give Green Day their own little paragraph. Today's pop stars aren't the only musicians taking heat for snagging rhythms, melodies and chord progressions (Fun fact: the latter of which isn't copyrightable). The biggest punk band of the last 15 years, Green Day, have gained a reputation for taking liberty with other people's tunes.Let's start this block off by saying we love us some Green Day. However, their songs sometimes sound really familiar, even on first listen. Perhaps it's because they're not so new. Hear for yourself! Compare Green Day's tunes to the originals below themWarning vs. Kinks' 'Picture Book'">" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> ">" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350">She's a Rebel vs. Jawbreaker's - Boxcar">" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> ">" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350">The other they mention is "Waiting" vs Petula Clark's "Downtown" which is just so far off I won't bother posting the video. Anyways, I'd like to hear your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcrazypills Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Picture book and warning start out really similar. I wouldn't go so far as to call them copycats or whatever but they didn't reinvent the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazychic Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 ombg not another one of these people trying to get credit off greenday yes the kink`s song may sound similar but that doesn`t mean they nicked it off them nowadays nearly evey song sounds similar so it`s not surprising that some people think they are a rip off lol but jaw breakers song and she`s a rebel there is no similarities whatsoever unless i am deaf lol and noel gallagher is only slagging off greenday coz he just a twat with a big mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassChick_GD Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 The way I look at it is, with the amount of music being produced these days it is hard to create something that completely embodies a unique or distinct sound. Of course it can be done but there are always going to be "sound-a-likes". It is possible that Green Day drew influence from those songs posted, whether it was subconsciously or on purpose. Ultimately, I don't really care lol I like the songs and I'm going to listen to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickin'pickin' Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Those plagiaristic bastards!In all seriousness, with a band like Green Day you aren't going to get any complex melodies. Because of this, there's a great possibility that some of their riffs..etc will sound similar to other artists work.As far as I can see, they've not intentionally gone out to rape a song or any elements from one. So no, Green Day arent copycats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Yeah, Billie Joe's not exactly subtle in showing his influences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisisAB Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I Kinks song is actaully better than Warning, kinda an obvious rip-off, but there is a possibility Green Day didn't know that song. The Rebel song isn't THAT close, and both are kinda punk, so I can't really blame them for sounding similar. I at the Downtown song, sounds nothing like Waiting!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 ombg not another one of these people trying to get credit off greenday yes the kink`s song may sound similar but that doesn`t mean they nicked it off them nowadays nearly evey song sounds similar so it`s not surprising that some people think they are a rip off lol but jaw breakers song and she`s a rebel there is no similarities whatsoever unless i am deaf lol and noel gallagher is only slagging off greenday coz he just a twat with a big mouthi started reading then i quickly realized there was no punctuation in any of that. so to avoid making my mind feeling like it was about to fall all over itself, I stopped. So sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 the songs indeed sound a bit like each other, but i guess it's more like coincidence, cause especially Warning and Picture Book are almost similiar, but it's not a very original, 'new', never done before sound. That PopEater guys just shouldn't whine about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatnoir Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 It is not stealing, it is referring to or worshipping other artists ideas... I think, there is a Jonny Cash reference in Jesus of suburbia. ring of fire. And I think, they did that on purpose.But they were clearly not worshipping oasis. Noel Gallagher should shut up and return to his big-ego-planet, which he came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazychic Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 i started reading then i quickly realized there was no punctuation in any of that. so to avoid making my mind feeling like it was about to fall all over itself, I stopped. So sorry.lol ooops soz umm thats kinda the problem that i have sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inane Kiss Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 the warning/picture book bit is just ascending and descending scales, isn't it? it's not exactly a complex note pattern to begin with. and i don't really hear the second one, especially with all the shit on the radio that sounds EXACTLY the same (see: fall out boy and panic at the disco) deafening me to lesser similarities.and i always thought waiting sounded like babes in toyland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickin'pickin' Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Ok, we should shut up about people who actually have an opinion.Even if Oasis are pricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nele Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 These guys who wrote this article, have too much free time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingrid Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think, there is a Jonny Cash reference in Jesus of suburbia. ring of fire. And I think, they did that on purpose.Wait, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think, there is a Jonny Cash reference in Jesus of suburbia. ring of fire. And I think, they did that on purpose.Um, where?i just listened ring of fire, don't hear anything that could be in JoS at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatnoir Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Ok, we should shut up about people who actually have an opinion.Even if Oasis are pricks.Sorry, but this guy is so arrogant and puts this out in public all the time, I am not sorry for insulting him. He is asking for it.I didn`t mean to insult any oasis fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickin'pickin' Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 But I don't really think this is about what you think of other artists. Arrogance is a trait many musicians have, anyhow.I think i'm sounding slightly hypocritical here, disregard my comments if you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inane Kiss Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Um, where?i just listened ring of fire, don't hear anything that could be in JoS at all...the "dearly beloved" bit. if you listen to American Jesus off American Edit you can hear some similarities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatnoir Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 the "dearly beloved" bit. if you listen to American Jesus off American Edit you can hear some similaritiesyep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingrid Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 the "dearly beloved" bit. if you listen to American Jesus off American Edit you can hear some similaritiesOh, I thought she was talking about the actual phrase 'ring of fire'. I'm not really familiar with that song, but I guess you're probably right then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatnoir Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 But I don't really think this is about what you think of other artists.It is about what we all think about other musicians, who accuse Green Day of stealing their music. This includes my opinion as well.Arrogance is a trait many musicians have, anyhow.If they can live up to this, it is fine for me.I think i'm sounding slightly hypocritical here, disregard my comments if you wish.I would never do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendaytone Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I don't think its intentional. Like mentioned by someone above, i don't think they make a secret of their influences and aren't afraid to show them in their music. Its almost like a nod of appreciation to their influences. And i reckon it can be a pretty good thing in itself to put different lyrics to the music that they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumstick Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 omg...there are soo much songs on this planet...and some songs must sound simmilar...wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 the "dearly beloved" bit. if you listen to American Jesus off American Edit you can hear some similaritiesyeah, that seemed the most logical to me, but only because it's both calm and features a guitar...with American Jesus compared i can hear the similiarities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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