**nobodylikesyou** Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 That's actually a very good point.I hate to play with semantics here, but since it is a Green Day forum, it sort of does make sense that Green Day should just be part of the general chat.^Yes it does make perfect sense for Green Day general chat to be seperate from all the other chat..And its quite obvious that the oldies don't wanna be bothered with General unless they choose to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura33 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I haven't left my opinion hre yet so here goes:No, personally I don't think we should spilt Green Day and General chat. I think that having them split will just kill conversation, I am sure this has been tried before and it didn't work out. But maybe we could try it again to see if it works, but I don't see it taking off that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netty Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I dont see why it would kill conversation off to be honest. yes, the green day section would be pretty much dead at the moment but the general section would remain active. you will get people who post things in the wrong place but its not exactly that big a job to move a thread and ask people to engage their brains before posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura33 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 But there is people who are only interested in Green Day that come on here and because all of the GD topics are in General Chat it gives them a chance to look at the other topics and maybe join in. If there is a seperate GD section then they are only gonna stick to that area. Also, I think that if there is a seperate GD section then people are gonna be posting topics on every little single GD mention just to try and keep it active, there is nothing going on at the min, but I am sure a few people will be able to find a mention of them somewhere and deem it to be thread worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotsky Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Also, I think that if there is a seperate GD section then people are gonna be posting topics on every little single GD mention just to try and keep it active, there is nothing going on at the min, but I am sure a few people will be able to find a mention of them somewhere and deem it to be thread worthy.Exactly. If this were being asked in December when FHT was coming into the news, or if a new album comes out in a year or 2, we can consider it then when threads are meaningful. Separating the forum gives free reign for people to ask dumb questions like what kind of weed Green Day smokes because there would be nothing else to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarnageXB Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 But what about when the new GD album rolls out? huh. Its going to be a bomb of green day threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netty Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 if people arent interested in non-green day topics, where they are wont make that much difference. not in my mind any way. its not like its that hard to go from one section to another. as for people starting more stupid threads just because its in seperate sections, again, I dont see it making any difference. if people are going to start stupid meaningless threads or start threads you already have... they`ll do it any way. I voted for a split but then its how I prefer forums to be when you have enough going on with the band. the idiot clubs band section is pretty much dead right now but you can soon see if somebody has posted anything new in there. on these forums, green day threads get lost very quickly. and as for using the search function.... I dont even bother with it. those things give more crap up than google from the few times I`ve tried them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beathe. Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbug Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 and as for using the search function.... I dont even bother with it. those things give more crap up than google from the few times I`ve tried them! Yeah, I don't have any luck using the search, so I don't bother any more. I have dial up, and it's slow enough without having to search through nine hundred pages of crap I'm not looking for to find the one thread I want.blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I dont see why it would kill conversation off to be honest. yes, the green day section would be pretty much dead at the moment but the general section would remain active. you will get people who post things in the wrong place but its not exactly that big a job to move a thread and ask people to engage their brains before posting.I agree with you so much on this point. Like many of the people voting for this split, I would much rather come into a dead green day area to find what I want that to get annoyed trying to search thru general. (which I too have given up trying) Most of the people that have a problem with the split are people that post alot in general. They seem to be worried that it will become dead, instead of worrying about what is best for the forum or the fans (including the new fans that will arrive when something happens) I don't think keeping Green Day items in General is gonna increase the amount of people that see something they like and start joining in. I think it just keeps people away from GDC that would love to join in about the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pismodiver Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 If there is a seperate GD section then they are only gonna stick to that area.Yep. Absolutely. Even so, I doubt the general chat section will shrivel up and die without all us old fuddy-duddies who just want to talk about Green Day on the Green Day Community forums. Actually the fact that we're having the discussion at all is rather amusing. Something tells me they're not asking whether they should have a Metallica section over on the Metallica boards.*waves hi to Leanne!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtoconcentrate Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I'm confused now. After reading everyone's opinions I can see how a spilt could be a good thing. Maybe it's something that we could try out for a little while and see how it goes? There is going to be a lot of Green Day threads once we get some news so it makes sense to have a more specific section to put them in. I don't think a spilt will necessarily create divisions amongst the members here. Everyone here is a fan or has been at some point and so I'm sure everyone will be checking out Green Day threads just out of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratepalmer Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I'm confused now. After reading everyone's opinions I can see how a spilt could be a good thing. Maybe it's something that we could try out for a little while and see how it goes?Yep I agree with Leanne's sentiment there. I really can't remember why it didn't work last time - and I'm sure I was around so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netty Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I dont remember it when it was split. not sure when that was but I`ve been lurking on various forums for long enough. must be old age turning my brain to mush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dookiehead Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 When Green Day make an announcement for the new album, do it. If you do it now there won't be any activity in the Green Day section, whereas the General forum will stay much the same as it is now, but if you do it when Green Day are actually making music and there's actually Green Day news etc to talk about, then they'll (in theory) be equally active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netty Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 why not do it before though when the mods and Andres have the time to get it set up and everybody has time to get used to it? yes, the green day section will be pretty dead apart from the rumours and speculation as we all keep saying, but at least it will be set up ready for when things do kick off. when we do get some concrete news through the forums will really come back to life and if it happens when Andres is having server problems... or on holiday or the mod team has been wiped out by some mysterious, internet transmitted form of the runs, it could turn into a total pain in the bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotsky Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 For all we know a new album or side project may never come at all. FHT was sort of a last minute surprise but if a new album is comin we will know months ahead. We can prep then, not now. Even if the split crowd had a 60 40 lead, that still wouldn't be enough convincing for major change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcause Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I'm surprised more people don't remember what it was like when the forum split, but it stands to reason that if it was going so great, it wouldn't have been merged again. To me, both forums suffered - the Green Day one was empty most of the time, and General was just a bunch of random threads. It's the energy of community that makes this place work, imo - all of us being literally on the same page together, whether or not we disagree or have little power struggles or whatever. I think we'd be better off trying to address people's grievances about the negative reception Green Day threads sometimes get than throwing in the towel altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMERTEN Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Please split this. I have always hated this layout. Shame because it is the best Green Day site otherwise.I feel the people who vote to keep this together believe the Green Day fans are interested in their lives (we're not). They are not celebrities and they jam the forum talking about themselves and some really boring topics. Some of them no longer even care for the band. I notice it seems to be a lot of the die hard fans who vote for a split. Their opinion should count more. If I wanted to blab about myself all night it wouldn't make any difference to me if it was split. It is only annoying for the people who have to wade through endless rubbish to talk about the band. It would also mean the people who do nothing but moan about the band would no longer need to access the part about Green Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I dont remember it when it was split. not sure when that was but I`ve been lurking on various forums for long enough. must be old age turning my brain to mush. Thats because it wasnt split for very long. It really wasnt given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Please split this. I have always hated this layout. Shame because it is the best Green Day site otherwise.I feel the people who vote to keep this together believe the Green Day fans are interested in their lives (we're not). They are not celebrities and they jam the forum talking about themselves and some really boring topics. Some of them no longer even care for the band. I notice it seems to be a lot of the die hard fans who vote for a split. Their opinion should count more. If I wanted to blab about myself all night it wouldn't make any difference to me if it was split. It is only annoying for the people who have to wade through endless rubbish to talk about the band. It would also mean the people who do nothing but moan about the band would no longer need to access the part about Green Day.So true. Amen to that. Honestly some people here think they have extra privildges than other people. I really want them to be split because i'd rather be talking about Green Day not them bullshit threads that are in general.Just look at the My Chemical Romance thread in other band chat. Thats always active and this aint even a MCR site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 why not do it before though when the mods and Andres have the time to get it set up and everybody has time to get used to it? yes, the green day section will be pretty dead apart from the rumours and speculation as we all keep saying, but at least it will be set up ready for when things do kick off. when we do get some concrete news through the forums will really come back to life and if it happens when Andres is having server problems... or on holiday or the mod team has been wiped out by some mysterious, internet transmitted form of the runs, it could turn into a total pain in the bum.Sounds perfect to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotsky Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Just look at the My Chemical Romance thread in other band chat. Thats always active and this aint even a MCR site.Because that's what people want to post. If someone wants to really contribute to their place then I can respect their opinions. I have no respect for the people who post once every few months in request of some kind of Green Day file or news and never give shit back to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Because that's what people want to post. If someone wants to really contribute to their place then I can respect their opinions. I have no respect for the people who post once every few months in request of some kind of Green Day file or news and never give shit back to us.The customer, or in this case, member is always right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Exactly. If this were being asked in December when FHT was coming into the news, or if a new album comes out in a year or 2, we can consider it then when threads are meaningful. Separating the forum gives free reign for people to ask dumb questions like what kind of weed Green Day smokes because there would be nothing else to say.No it doesnt John. There would be mods that would elimate the bullshit threads in either section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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