What if Green Day never came back?

[justcause]

I don't know if this belongs more rightly in one of the FHT threads, but it's just a question I'd like to put out there. I love the whole FHT thing - the no-hype, no identity, just the music vibe. I know I'd love it to continue that way - I'd love it if Green Day just kept putting music out there on a rolling basis, with nothing pre-conceived. I think the energy and the mystery of it is amazing, ground-breaking.

So, what if they left behind the back-catalogue and stayed as FHT, or just kept changing names for each installment? How would you feel about that?

[Guest give me novacaine-jos]

So, what if they left behind the back-catalogue and stayed as FHT, or just kept changing names for each installment? How would you feel about that?

^^i wouldn't like that at all i love green day and i like Foxboro hot tubs!

but i truly believe that green day is the only band i have ever loved with all my heart! i love their job and i don't want to see something like that to happened

[Dimitra A.]

i'd hate that. Well..i like foxboro, but Green Day is Green Day and Foxboro is Foxboro...u know?

i miss Green Day

[justcause]

Well, FHT=Green Day without the baggage. I'm just thinking, if you leave that baggage behind and it works for you, why would you pick it up again?

[Hermione]

Didn't Billie Joe once say something like "The only way someone's gonna leave this band is in a body bag."? I'm not worried about Green Day ending, I think it's highly unlikely. To me, the Foxboro thing doesn't make new GD material less likely, it shows that they are back in the creative process of making music and closer to a new 'proper' album.

Just as The Network was a bi-product of all the musical energy leading up to American Idiot, the fabulous Foxies is a bi-product of the new GD stuff. Billie Joe has said they have 40-50 songs, so they must already have plenty of material to work on. I think people are getting a tad paranoid about this because there's been a 3 1/2 year gap since AI, but there was a 4 year gap between Warning and AI!

I'm glad they're taking their time to make a quality record, and FHT only shows that they clearly don't want to stop and the creative juices are definitely flowing.

[Fuzz]

I wouldn't be happy. The big obnoxious tours are fun, and i think one of the side-effects of trying to fill a stadium with 50,000 people is that you have the extra-baggage (the media tours, merchandise, etc.). They could implement the Foxboro mentality of just rolling out random music at their own will and still continue to do the rest of the stuff as well. Nothing is lost. It boggles my mind that they enjoy doing things like The Network and FHT, but getting them to say anything about what Green Day is up to is near painful. They could be releasing new songs online that won't be on the album, just stuff they've worked on for fun or thrown out, or other things they want.

I enjoy FHT, but part of my enjoyment of Green Day is knowing that they can kiss ass against other bands out there that i feel get too much attention for being mediocre. It's not like the extra baggage of putting out a Green Day album couldn't be slimmed down if it really bothered them that much. They're in a big enough place to say what they will and will not do. Which is part of the reason I think they've waited this long to put anything out and part of the reason they're so secretive about the new stuff. American Idiot had quite the big build up to it's release, where the Foxboro stuff came out of no where, no worries about people leaking the album or any of that crap.

[starbucksfreak]

I wouldnt mind it one bit, as someone said, its still green day anyway.

[eyes don't lie]

I wouldn't care what name they used just as long as they kept making music. It's the artists themselves that have the talent not the name of the band.

If they stopped making music at all then I would be really sad and grouchy so for my family and friends sake as well as my own, I hope it never happens.

[Laura33]

I agree with what Andres has said.

As much as I adore FHT, I wouldn't want it to be the end of Green Day as we know them. The tours are brilliant, and they themselves wouldn't give that up because they love doing it too much. And well, when you are a major band like they are they are expected to have this baggage and have to some advertising. It's just the way it is. I think FHT (or whatever comes next) is great as something for them to blow ff steam before they have to be blasted back in to the public eye, but I think it should be kept that way

[justcause]

It boggles my mind that they enjoy doing things like The Network and FHT, but getting them to say anything about what Green Day is up to is near painful.

But doesn't that just say it all? Why should they go back to 'painful' when they're at a place where they can be free? I dunno, I suppose this goes back to my feeling that this is Green Day, present tense - that Stop Drop and Roll is the follow-up to American Idiot, not just a part of the process. If not, it still leaves me wondering - when the 'next' Green Day album arrives, what's gonna make the difference for the fans? Do they feel like there's a missing ingredient to Stop Drop and Roll, or is it all just in a name?

[Agija]

That'd be kinda sad. I'd definitely miss them.

I hope that never happens. I would still listen to their old songs.

[Fuzz]

But doesn't that just say it all? Why should they go back to 'painful' when they're at a place where they can be free? I dunno, I suppose this goes back to my feeling that this is Green Day, present tense - that Stop Drop and Roll is the follow-up to American Idiot, not just a part of the process. Maybe I'll be proved entirely wrong, but it still leaves me wondering - when the 'next' Green Day album arrives, what's gonna make the difference for the fans? Do they feel like there's a missing ingredient to Stop Drop and Roll, or is it all just in a name?

they're in the "painful" stage right now, between albums and holding their lips sealed. When they release something it's pretty much a free for all in getting Green Day info out of the band then. The label is more than happy to setup interviews with the band or the band themselves are willing to talk about what they're up to. Now is when it's hardest to get anything out of them.

What gonna make the difference? As fun as FHT is, it's not the strongest stuff Green Day's done. It's not them pushing the boundaries, it's not punk rock. We know the guys like to place the bar higher for themselves with each album, and I don't really think the FHT stuff touches that bar. Sure the name matters to a point too, again I'm gonna tie it into the big shows that i (and many others) love. All that comes from having a brand woven into a successful band. How they manage it is up to them.

[Ally]

i wouldn't mind cos they are the same group, but i suppose the music defines who the band is so if they stayed as foxboro then they would still be green day but the music wouldnt be green day so in theory they wouldn't be green day, if they were the foxboro hot tubs if that makes sense! :/

[CarmenPunkGirl]

i want old green day back (...i want the american idiot style..(

i like foxobor, but

[*withoutadoubt*]

I wouldn't care what name they used just as long as they kept making music. It's the artists themselves that have the talent not the name of the band.

If they stopped making music at all then I would be really sad and grouchy so for my family and friends sake as well as my own, I hope it never happens.

I agree with you. I love their music, no matter what they call themselves, and as long as they keep doing what they're doing, I'll be happy. This whole FHT thing has been fun and exciting, keeping us all guessing for what was coming next - I wouldn't mind that again. They are the same people, just different packaging. If that works for them, and they continue it, it'd be fine with me.

[Fuzz]

i want old green day back (...i want the american idiot style..(

i like foxobor, but

american idiot style is not "old green day". psh.

we don't even know what "new green day" is.

[midlfecrysis]

they're in the "painful" stage right now, between albums and holding their lips sealed. When they release something it's pretty much a free for all in getting Green Day info out of the band then. The label is more than happy to setup interviews with the band or the band themselves are willing to talk about what they're up to. Now is when it's hardest to get anything out of them.

What gonna make the difference? As fun as FHT is, it's not the strongest stuff Green Day's done. It's not them pushing the boundaries, it's not punk rock. We know the guys like to place the bar higher for themselves with each album, and I don't really think the FHT stuff touches that bar. Sure the name matters to a point too, again I'm gonna tie it into the big shows that i (and many others) love. All that comes from having a brand woven into a successful band. How they manage it is up to them.

I agree with everything Andres has said. But to add to that, I would be very dissappointed. Yes, they are the same band, but the music is not the same at all. All of GD's other cd's I listen to over and over and over, never getting tired of it. I personnally am already tired of the FHT songs. I mean I listened to AI exclusively for a a year or more and never got tired of it. Sorry, but this music just doesn't captivate me like "Green Day" music. :/ I'll prepare for the backlashing.

[greenbear]

FHT just doesn't have the ambition of Green Day.

Its very good music and I can still listen to it over and over again -well for now anyway. I love the way that Billie, Mike and Tre can just release songs they're almost disposing of and it still 100% better than most of the rubbish that's around. In my mind they can carry on making music spontaneously and keep putting it out with another band name as much as they want but I'd be very disappointed if it meant we lost "Green Day"

Green day are a creative force with their own identity and sound which evolves with each album. .Yes they would still make great music under another name but I love The Green Day Sound: the energy, the anguish, the driving power of it all and I think you would lose that. Putting music out only in different styles when they just feel like it would mean they've have lost that overall direction.

I like what they doing, keeping the focus of Green Day as the main project but still giving us these little treats inbetween.

[The Disappearing Boy]

i think the whole fht thing is just something to keep the fans occupied til the real album. and we have to thank them for that, its great. i imagine soon that they will start their new album and when that happens, the fht will fade away, just like the network have done.

[Melly.]

We move on.

[justcause]

This is a comment that followed the Rolling Stone piece with the e-mail quote about Stop Drop and Roll being considered to be ' the new Green Day record' -

'If GD fans gave a damn about Rock and Roll,they should do a backflip that GD is changing up.Or just stay sissified.'

Yeah?

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/inde...cret-new-album/

[music_that_is]

i wldnt like that..It may be the same guys and FHT's/The Network's music is damn good but we like them as the side bands of GD. If they never come as Green Day and keep changing their names and trying different styles, they wold be using all their creativity and thats cool :/ but still i know they will come back and looking forward to see the new GD.

Didn't Billie Joe once say something like "The only way someone's gonna leave this band is in a body bag."?

indeed..

[Laura33]

^ I don't think Angeline meant that they wouldn't be together as a band, I think she just meant as a band but in another form? Something less hectic, less about promotion and more about the music

[Fuzz]

This is a comment that followed the Rolling Stone piece with the e-mail quote about Stop Drop and Roll being considered to be ' the new Green Day record' -

'If GD fans gave a damn about Rock and Roll,they should do a backflip that GD is changing up.Or just stay sissified.'

Yeah?

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/inde...cret-new-album/

I don't remember ever looking to Rolling Stone for my queues on good music. Like I said, yeah, the FHT stuff is good, it's damned good rock and roll. But Green Day's other material is more than that. It's funny to think that a decade ago people gave Green Day shit for writing songs that were too simple and not really anything new. They changed into a band that wrote 8 minute songs with more musical thought behind it than anything in their 17 year career, and now Rolling Stone suggests the FHT stuff is the real rock and roll Green Day should be going after. Repetitive chords with beats we've heard before. It's good, but it's not as special as a thorough Green Day album.

[justcause]

^ I don't think Angeline meant that they wouldn't be together as a band, I think she just meant as a band but in another form? Something less hectic, less about promotion and more about the music

Yeah, and I'd go even further than that - like, if they add more musicians for a particular project, people don't start nit-picking and going 'it's not Green Day because whoeverthefuck is in there too'.

I just think we're in danger of becoming hidebound fucks with our definitions of what constitutes 'Green Day'. To me, 'brand' and 'band' don't belong in the same mindspace.

I don't remember ever looking to Rolling Stone for my queues on good music. Like I said, yeah, the FHT stuff is good, it's damned good rock and roll. But Green Day's other material is more than that. It's funny to think that a decade ago people gave Green Day shit for writing songs that were too simple and not really anything new. They changed into a band that wrote 8 minute songs with more musical thought behind it than anything in their 17 year career, and now Rolling Stone suggests the FHT stuff is the real rock and roll Green Day should be going after. Repetitive chords with beats we've heard before. It's good, but it's not as special as a thorough Green Day album.

Just to clarify, what I quoted wasn't from Rolling Stone itself, it was a comment that followed the piece. I just wondered what people thought of it.