Instant Mash Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 In other words... she agrees with Jay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickin'pickin' Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I agree with you that Johnny is at another level, fiercely intelligent, which kind of puts him at a disadvantage in a world where people don't want to have to think too hard. His sense of humor passes over people's heads, and a lot of his salvos at Green Day are a piss-take. Listen to what he's saying, and you'll find that it's not a million miles away from stuff Billie Joe says - although they come from different places, in a sense they come from the same place. The Pistols scared the shit out of people, and it's hard to think of any band doing that today. But this is not only to do with the bands, it's the people listening to those bands and how they respond, how much they take it on board. Billie Joe said American Idiot could be the soundtrack to a revolution, but I don't see that anyone took up that challenge - 'the kids don't give a shit' was his verdict in that RS interview. I think that one of the things people forget about '77 is that it wasn't just about the bands, it was about the people. Punk was born out of a cocktail of things, but a major part of it was people's emotional and cultural malnutrition, a stifling climate of smug and inaccessible music that bore no relation to the society it soundtracked. Punk succeeded because people craved it, embraced it, took it onboard. But it was a revolution, and revolution isn't a way of life - in some ways, it's always easier to live the war than the peace that follows. The challenge is to maintain the idealism in a climate that brings different choices, to keep biting the hand that feeds us. Punk succeeded when most people were on the outside - poor and with nothing to lose. We get the governments we deserve - and we get the bands we deserve. For the record, I don't think GD were looking to U2 for anything other than a role model of longevity in music. Seeing as U2 are dead, musically, I think GD are gonna have to look inside themselves for that answer, and from what Billie Joe said in the RS interview, that's what they're doing right now.YES! my point exactly!Just got to get my wording fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Caine Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I agree with you that Johnny is at another level, fiercely intelligent, which kind of puts him at a disadvantage in a world where people don't want to have to think too hard. His sense of humor passes over people's heads, and a lot of his salvos at Green Day are a piss-take. Listen to what he's saying, and you'll find that it's not a million miles away from stuff Billie Joe says - although they come from different places, in a sense they come from the same place. The Pistols scared the shit out of people, and it's hard to think of any band doing that today. But this is not only to do with the bands, it's the people listening to those bands and how they respond, how much they take it on board. Billie Joe said American Idiot could be the soundtrack to a revolution, but I don't see that anyone took up that challenge - 'the kids don't give a shit' was his verdict in that RS interview. I think that one of the things people forget about '77 is that it wasn't just about the bands, it was about the people. Punk was born out of a cocktail of things, but a major part of it was people's emotional and cultural malnutrition, a stifling climate of smug and inaccessible music that bore no relation to the society it soundtracked. Punk succeeded because people craved it, embraced it, took it onboard. But it was a revolution, and revolution isn't a way of life - in some ways, it's always easier to live the war than the peace that follows. The challenge is to maintain the idealism in a climate that brings different choices, to keep biting the hand that feeds us. Punk succeeded when most people were on the outside - poor and with nothing to lose. We get the governments we deserve - and we get the bands we deserve. For the record, I don't think GD were looking to U2 for anything other than a role model of longevity in music. Seeing as U2 are dead, musically, I think GD are gonna have to look inside themselves for that answer, and from what Billie Joe said in the RS interview, that's what they're doing right now.*applauds*The country well the UK in particular was so different back then, today we live in relative luxury, the youth was angry, kids today have no reason to be angry they have so many distractions that take them away from the politics of the world that they can't see whats going on, Punk in its original form in 77, which i only just remember, was raw, aggressive, angry, full of hate, full of 'we don't give a fuck this is how we feel and your gonna know it'. Today its different, the so called punk bands today care more about looking punk than feeling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickin'pickin' Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 *applauds*The country well the UK in particular was so different back then, today we live in relative luxury, the youth was angry, kids today have no reason to be angry they have so many distractions that take them away from the politics of the world that they can't see whats going on, Punk in its original form in 77, which i only just remember, was raw, aggressive, angry, full of hate, full of 'we don't give a fuck this is how we feel and your gonna know it'. Today its different, the so called punk bands today care more about looking punk than feeling it.BOOM HEADSHOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine2385 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Just because someone likes Green Day doesn't mean they have to be all "Omg they are so hot!" or agree with everything the band says and does.People are all different and have their own opinions and tastes, that doesn't make them shitty fans Sunshine, it just makes them human.There are also people here who don't particularly like Green Day much at all, that's their prerogative too.Sure why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickin'pickin' Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Much like the "fans" around here who are stuck in the 90's and want GD to recreate "Dookie" 20 more times. American Idiot or Dookie.I know which one i'd rather have.And i'm not a shitty fan, i just recognize that there are/were bands that did it a WHOLE lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine2385 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Didn't say you were shitty, I mean the ppl around here. Not necessarily you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marie1986 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 i saw a few weeks ago that he was praising green day?what the heck!the sex pistols arent even around todaycuz they lost themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Why would he be ragging on the band he was once a part of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Why would he be ragging on the band he was once a part of? I agree with you completely. Johnny Rotten was the best damn drummer Green Day ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly. Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I agree with you completely. Johnny Rotten was the best damn drummer Green Day ever had.I completely agree with you, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickin'pickin' Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 i saw a few weeks ago that he was praising green day?what the heck!the sex pistols arent even around todaycuz they lost themselvesThen who the fuck did i go and see 2 weeks ago?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly. Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Then who the fuck did i go and see 2 weeks ago??The Sex Pistols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickin'pickin' Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 But they aren't around anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly. Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I thought that was the sex pistols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickin'pickin' Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 i believe its labelling time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly. Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Wow, patiently waiting certainly pays off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I agree with you completely. Johnny Rotten was the best damn drummer Green Day ever had.I often listen to 1,039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours but I don't prefer him over Tre or vise versa. They're both equally talented.I still wanna know why he was ragging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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