Johnny/Green Day/ Kerrang

[MrGreenDayUK]

Meh, live and let live I say. He's got his opinions but who really cares that much? 30 years ago maybe I'd have been a bit angry but now, nah. He's a spent rockstar and he's obvoiusly not in touch with the modern music scene, we should have some sympathy for him. After all, without him there probably wouldn't have been a Green Day.

[FJ]

On a Sex Pistols related note, Malcolm Maclaren flew 5000 miles to take part in a TV show scheduled to last for a few weeks, then, when he got there, said he didn't have the time to do it, so he's flying back to the UK. Am I the only one thinking publicity-seeking prick on this one?!

[Sunshine2385]

You're not alone FJ

[Sugar Demon]

Nothing new. Lydon has always been like that since he was a young man. He made a career out of being contrarian. He refuses to hold a simple conversation in an interview. Being contraversial is much more entertaining and generates more press. Look up some of those old Tomorrow Show videos or other interviews from the 70s and early 80s. You'll see what I mean. What I'm saying is, don't let it offend you. It's rude, but then again, it's coming from Johnny Rotten. It's all just a part of his twisted schtick.

No flys on me!

[Sunshine2385]

I'm not offended, I'm annoyed.

[Sara Armstrong]

i thought this said johnny depp at first idfk why.

but yeah. johnny rotten hating green day? OMG NO WAii.

[Amanda]

Whats that smell in here... cow, horse... ?

No, its something woolly.

Baaa

And if you've any sense you'll listen to Sugar Demon on this one.

One thing about John Lydon is he likes to stir things up a bit.

[Sunshine2385]

Have fun you guys!! Why? cuz I love GDC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FIwFr8n8as

I find his spiel on Green Day absolutely HILARIOUS ..

[Relavar]

Whats that smell in here... cow, horse... ?

No, its something woolly.

Baaa

And if you've any sense you'll listen to Sugar Demon on this one.

One thing about John Lydon is he likes to stir things up a bit.

That was like, cute.

[Amanda]

Ah, so the "but God aren't they good?" comment was somewhat overlooked then ?

And he didn't just pluck Green Day comments out of the air, there was a framed poster in the room at the time.

I just feel like I love him more now.

awesome vid Sunshine.

[Sunshine2385]

Anything for you Adeline.

[**nobodylikesyou**]

Even if he doesn't like them, I think he should respect what they do. They're turning the younger generation onto his music. Therefore making him more popular.

exactly.

he is a bitter old fart.

[Instant Mash]

*Insert generic whining about Johnny Rotten here*

Think about it... Where would Green Day be if the Sex Pistols never existed?

[Sunshine2385]

It must hurt like a bitch to hear your idol talking shit about you like that.

[chickin'pickin']

The mans bang on the money.

And what some of you fail to realise, is that he recognizes that Green Day are good at what they do. Just what they do, is what he hates.

Is he not entitled to say that?

[FruscianteForPrez08]

Johnny must be low on cash again, since there's another Sex Pistols reunion show...

I really do hate that man, he's bitter, whining, and unaware of the fact that the 70's ended 30 years ago and they're never coming back...

Plus the fact that his music career failed miserably (I don't care how much everybody loves NMTB, I can name at least a dozen punk albums from that time that crush it, and his band fell apart after 4 years... )

I would not criticize a band that's been around 18 years and didn't have their bassist die...

[greenbear]

He is certainly entitled to his opinion but so are we.

In my opinion he is still stuck in the eighties. The Sex Pistols may have been good in their day - which they were - but they have not moved on.

Green Day have evolved musically and as people. This has helped make them such a great band. At least they are not living in the past unlike JR.

[chickin'pickin']

Johnny must be low on cash again, since there's another Sex Pistols reunion show... I really do hate that man, he's bitter, whining, and unaware of the fact that the 70's ended 30 years ago and they're never coming back... Plus the fact that his music career failed miserably (I don't care how much everybody loves NMTB, I can name at least a dozen punk albums from that time that crush it, and his band fell apart after 4 years... )I would not criticize a band that's been around 18 years and didn't have their bassist die...

You silly person.Never hear of PiL? Many of their albums were critical successes, and also sold in great numbers too. I would like you to list the albums that made a bigger impact, thus were better than Never Mind The Bollocks.The Pistols will ALWAYS be more important than Green Day, and a bunch of pissant whiney teenagers won't change that. The man speaks the truth. He may embellish a little from time to time, but thats because he is on a wind up, he's on another level than most of today's artists.

He is certainly entitled to his opinion but so are we.In my opinion he is still stuck in the eighties. The Sex Pistols may have been good in their day - which they were - but they have not moved on.Green Day have evolved musically and as people. This has helped make them such a great band. At least they are not living in the past unlike JR.

He maybe stuck in the 80's or indeed the 70's if we are talking about the time he was with the Sex Pistols, but sometimes i think that was a better time. Him and his entourage were making themselves heard, shouting their mouths off publicly. Not just about other bands or how rubbish a certain artist is, like most small fry bands of today, but the major issues that needed tackling at the time. This generation whine and moan about things, but never actually do anything. Pussies.

Yes, I know Green Day are all "save the world" and all that jazz, but this seems more to me like the fame has gone to their heads, and that they think they are the new U2. This saddens me. Bono's a comeplete wanker too.

[Instant Mash]

[FruscianteForPrez08]

You silly person.Never hear of PiL? Many of their albums were critical successes, and also sold in great numbers too. I would like you to list the albums that made a bigger impact, thus were better than Never Mind The Bollocks.The Pistols will ALWAYS be more important than Green Day, and a bunch of pissant whiney teenagers won't change that. The man speaks the truth. He may embellish a little from time to time, but thats because he is on a wind up, he's on another level than most of today's artists.He maybe stuck in the 80's or indeed the 70's if we are talking about the time he was with the Sex Pistols, but sometimes i think that was a better time. Him and his entourage were making themselves heard, shouting their mouths off publicly. Not just about other bands or how rubbish a certain artist is, like most small fry bands of today, but the major issues that needed tackling at the time. This generation whine and moan about things, but never actually do anything. Pussies.

Yes, I know Green Day are all "save the world" and all that jazz, but this seems more to me like the fame has gone to their heads, and that they think they are the new U2. This saddens me. Bono's a comeplete wanker too.

-The Stooges 1968

- London Calling 1979

-Kick Out the Jams 1968

-Ramones 1975

-Rocket to Russia 1977

-Damned Damned Damned 1977

that's an easy half dozen right there, without thinking.

And yes, a "silly person" like me has heard of PiL, and just because albums were successful and sold a shitload of copies doesn't make them good. And Johnny himself said PiL would have been better if he would have hired Flea in the 80's...

I'm not trying to say Green Day are better than the Sex Pistols, because the Sex Pistols had a harder environment to break through and I can name at least 15 bands I like that are way better than Green Day. And I'm insulted that you think artists don't care about the world anymore, consider artists like Pearl Jam or Ben Harper...

And just for the record, I hate U2, I think Bono forgot about music and everything after War sounded like shit...

[chickin'pickin']

You may have a case for London Calling and Ramones. The others, just no.

I thought PiL were very good infact, and i love the way Johnny Rotten insisted that they weren't a band, but a company.

It's all down to opinion obviously.

[Sunshine2385]

There are some shitty fans on this forum.

[Sunshine2385]

unaware of the fact that the 70's ended 30 years ago and they're never coming back...

Much like the "fans" around here who are stuck in the 90's and want GD to recreate "Dookie" 20 more times.

[Amanda]

There are some shitty fans on this forum.

Just because someone likes Green Day doesn't mean they have to be all "Omg they are so hot!" or agree with everything the band says and does.

People are all different and have their own opinions and tastes, that doesn't make them shitty fans Sunshine, it just makes them human.

There are also people here who don't particularly like Green Day much at all, that's their prerogative too.

[justcause]

The man speaks the truth. He may embellish a little from time to time, but thats because he is on a wind up, he's on another level than most of today's artists.He maybe stuck in the 80's or indeed the 70's if we are talking about the time he was with the Sex Pistols, but sometimes i think that was a better time.

Yes, I know Green Day are all "save the world" and all that jazz, but this seems more to me like the fame has gone to their heads, and that they think they are the new U2. This saddens me. Bono's a comeplete wanker too.

I agree with you that Johnny is at another level, fiercely intelligent, which kind of puts him at a disadvantage in a world where people don't want to have to think too hard. His sense of humor passes over people's heads, and a lot of his salvos at Green Day are a piss-take. Listen to what he's saying, and you'll find that it's not a million miles away from stuff Billie Joe says - although they come from different places, in a sense they come from the same place.

The Pistols scared the shit out of people, and it's hard to think of any band doing that today. But this is not only to do with the bands, it's the people listening to those bands and how they respond, how much they take it on board. Billie Joe said American Idiot could be the soundtrack to a revolution, but I don't see that anyone took up that challenge - 'the kids don't give a shit' was his verdict in that RS interview.

I think that one of the things people forget about '77 is that it wasn't just about the bands, it was about the people. Punk was born out of a cocktail of things, but a major part of it was people's emotional and cultural malnutrition, a stifling climate of smug and inaccessible music that bore no relation to the society it soundtracked. Punk succeeded because people craved it, embraced it, took it onboard.

But it was a revolution, and revolution isn't a way of life - in some ways, it's always easier to live the war than the peace that follows. The challenge is to maintain the idealism in a climate that brings different choices, to keep biting the hand that feeds us. Punk succeeded when most people were on the outside - poor and with nothing to lose.

We get the governments we deserve - and we get the bands we deserve. For the record, I don't think GD were looking to U2 for anything other than a role model of longevity in music. Seeing as U2 are dead, musically, I think GD are gonna have to look inside themselves for that answer, and from what Billie Joe said in the RS interview, that's what they're doing right now.