Will green day get typecast in american idiot?

[Sanah]

Known fact where I'm from: Dookie was bigger than AI.

Edit: And it still is.

[GaraGD]

Known fact where I'm from: Dookie was bigger than AI.

Edit: And it still is.

I already like your homeplace

[Hitman]

That's up to them.

Zeppelin isn't just remembered for one album, neither is Guns N' Roses, Aerosmith, Motley Crue, etc. It depends on how much effort they're willing to put towards their new album.

[FilmAdaptation]

AI made them well known to the younger generation, yes. It garnered more fans, but polarized many of the older, and annoyed the crap out of people who previously didn't mind them too much, but respected them.

So you decide whether the release of AI will be a good or bad mark on their remembrance to the mass populous.

[justcause]

When I heard Mike talk about this 'shadow of Dookie' in BIAB, I remember being a little bit surprised that he had that perception. Ok, other people might have been constantly making that reference, but weren't the band themselves happy with all the amazing albums that followed, wasn't that enough?

AI gave them another monster hit, and it's an album I love - but people still compared it to Dookie. The next album will straightaway be measured up to AI, and probably to Dookie too. I think of GD's output in terms of the whole body of their work, not just the biggest hits or the ones with the most impact. Dookie will always come up, but surely that's something to be proud of, not to consider as a 'shadow'?

[database]

GREEN DAY IS SO OLD BUT THEY STILL ROCK

[angie]

I seriously hope that people wont just remember them as the guys that made an album fucking bush off

They're the gods of punk... I will remember cause of all their albums, the way each album had a different sound, the way they matured, all the things that made lmao

Yeah

[FilmAdaptation]

When I heard Mike talk about this 'shadow of Dookie' in BIAB, I remember being a little bit surprised that he had that perception. Ok, other people might have been constantly making that reference, but weren't the band themselves happy with all the amazing albums that followed, wasn't that enough?

AI gave them another monster hit, and it's an album I love - but people still compared it to Dookie. The next album will straightaway be measured up to AI, and probably to Dookie too. I think of GD's output in terms of the whole body of their work, not just the biggest hits or the ones with the most impact. Dookie will always come up, but surely that's something to be proud of, not to consider as a 'shadow'?

I understand the shadow thing. If you were an artist, and you were painting for years and one finally got huge recognition, you'd be happy about it. But if every painting you do after that is always compared to it and never measures up, even though it does to you, it would bother you.

[Jose Luis]

GREEN DAY IS SO OLD BUT THEY STILL ROCK

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[SkippyNXC]

GREEN DAY IS SO OLD BUT THEY STILL ROCK

if there old i guess being in my mid-ish 20's that makes me what middle aged? LOL

[justcause]

I understand the shadow thing. If you were an artist, and you were painting for years and one finally got huge recognition, you'd be happy about it. But if every painting you do after that is always compared to it and never measures up, even though it does to you, it would bother you.

Of course I can understand it, but it's a kind of mental trap to put yourself in. All the albums that followed Dookie sold pretty respectably - more than that - so there was an audience that have been appreciating them all along. I don't know how the measuring up would've been done - in terms of sales, critical acclaim?

[Viva La Junkpile]

I understand the shadow thing. If you were an artist, and you were painting for years and one finally got huge recognition, you'd be happy about it. But if every painting you do after that is always compared to it and never measures up, even though it does to you, it would bother you.

Like Anthony Burgess' A Clockwork Orange-- it blew up because of the movie, but his other works are also brilliant, but not recognized. I remember reading about his frustration towards that. It's a shame when things like that happen...people shouldn't be so critical.

[justcause]

Like Anthony Burgess' A Clockwork Orange-- it blew up because of the movie, but his other works are also brilliant, but not recognized. I remember reading about his frustration towards that. It's a shame when things like that happen...people shouldn't be so critical.

It all depends on who you want to be recognized by - people who 'get' what you're doing, or the world at large. Like, in terms of Green Day, should they be bothered by idiots who go 'it's not as good as Dookie', when they have a following who appreciate everything they do? Critical acclaim - I mean, who are the critics? Are they people you would even respect if you knew them? The danger for an artist is to take that shit onboard, and let it affect his ideas of how good he is.

[Viva La Junkpile]

It all depends on who you want to be recognized by - people who 'get' what you're doing, or the world at large. Like, in terms of Green Day, should they be bothered by idiots who go 'it's not as good as Dookie', when they have a following who appreciate everything they do? Critical acclaim - I mean, who are the critics? Are they people you would even respect if you knew them? The danger for an artist is to take that shit onboard, and let it affect his ideas of how good he is.

I completely agree. I'm just glad Green Day obviously doesn't care about those critics. It's all a matter of taste anyway. I read reviews in the newspaper about movies, and sometimes that movie is a BILLION times better/worse than they said it was.

[Marc.]

That's up to them.

Zeppelin isn't just remembered for one album, neither is Guns N' Roses, Aerosmith, Motley Crue, etc. It depends on how much effort they're willing to put towards their new album.

i love your references to real bands Tyler <3

[Viva La Junkpile]

^ Could have had *better* references (Although, I do like those bands). More Like: David Bowie, & The Beatles...these are house-hold names (generally), that you hear of more than one or two of their albums as significant points in music, not so much the bands mentioned by Hitman. Right idea though (:

[The Disappearing Boy]

I think that when the guys finally finish (which won't be for a long time!!!) it will be interesting then to judge dookie and AI and see how they compare to their other stuff. But yeah twice in their career, green day have been the biggest band in the world and thats pretty cool!

[haushinkapritchard]

I seriously hope that people wont just remember them as the guys that made an album fucking bush off

...Have I missed this album?

Oh and if Green Day were wearing the same clothes to every gig on the AI tour...jeez they must have smelled pretty bad

I think Green Day will be most remembered by Basket Case and Good Riddance...Its just younger people will of course remember them for American Idiot because they were probably too young to take much notice of their earlier stuff...

[Rita]

I think it's possible. :/

[Marc.]

Dookie putted Green Day on music map definitely... But till the release of AI, they werent such a big deal in music

Even with Dookie. Cause now all those people that listens to 50 cent's and whatsoever know them as the "American Idiot" band. And its true! Not that AI's better than Dookie, but that putted then on people's mouth definitely

And thats why a lot of people started saying they made comercial music (idiots), cause now they are more popular than they were with dookie or warning.

But yeah, lotsa people gonna remember them cause of AI

excuse me but i don't listen to green day anymore haven't for roughly 18 months and i dont listen to 50, i prefer my share of metal glam rock/metal and 80's

i despise of 5 cent and such

[Russian paranoid]

No I think they won't. They are too good to get it.

[bat-chen]

I become there fan since American Idiot but I love all there albums and I think that from AI they become more bigger that ever. Dookie it's a great album but I don't thinks there were big enough like there are in Amercian Idiot. for example, I'm from Israel and I almost never heard about them before American Idiot.

I hope that people remeber them as a punk Rock idols...great songs and not just "the band who put eyeliner" or anything like that.

[**nobodylikesyou**]

AI made them well known to the younger generation, yes. It garnered more fans, but polarized many of the older, and annoyed the crap out of people who previously didn't mind them too much, but respected them.

So you decide whether the release of AI will be a good or bad mark on their remembrance to the mass populous.

The world is a better place because of AI.

Green Day will be remembered for alot of things, but mainly for being a kick ass band that pumps out one good song after another.

[Viva La Junkpile]

I don't think it's "AI made them well known to the younger generation" so much; there were just as young of people when Dookie came out that started liking Green Day-- that's why I don't get the fuss. It's just because those kids have grown up since, now they complain about Green Day drawing a younger crowd when they themselves were a younger crowd aswell. Those are the same people that like to pick at American Idiot, and probably any future releases of the band.

No matter how big they say AI is, and it was and I still love it to itty bits, Dookie sold just as well inbetween albums as American Idiot. Just because some (or many) of the people on this forum or any other didn't realise Green Day were big or even around before American Idiot, does not mean that they were not already on the map. Next to Nirvana (not a huge fan of them myself...), Green Day were THE band of the early 90s.

It would be a shame and a blasphemy towards music (^^") if Green Day were only remembered for a single album or anything silly like that. Although it's great if an album leaves its mark, it's in no way compared to if the band, their entire catalogue, and everything that goes with it (lyrics, emotion, etc...) leaves it's mark on you personally. I feel Green Day are good at doing that (: So no matter how much they *drift* from you (ie: playing less of their music, not bothering to read little details of their progress, etc.), you will always have something they taught you with you.

For me, Green Day will always embody the most intune band in the world. And I love them for anything and everything they introduced me to. <3

[jesus the rage guy]

let's wait till the 3000 year come and we'll know

seriously, could be...couldnt

the band have alot of great albums and more to come

so, just wait people

we dont know if the next album will hit the world again...