Will green day get typecast in american idiot?

[The Disappearing Boy]

i think its possible. Not that its a bad thing, but I and quite a few others first got into green day through american idiot and i had never heard of them before, the same goes for most people.

But if you look at american idiot, it is completely different to anything they have ever done, for a start it is a rock opera and deals with slightly more mature themes, (ok, perhaps they started that with nimrod), but bj and tre wear eyeliner, and they haven't done since, nor did they do so before, the guys used to wear the same clothes for each gig on the AI tour, meaning that the album had a particular look.

Even the song structure and the way they wrote songs was completely new, the music had a different sound and most songs needed 2 guitars, the list could go on forever, but my point is that american idiot was very very different to anything else they have ever done.

So, will, at the end of their careers, people remember them for just american idiot, or do you think that the guys will produce more records that will be just as big so that this doesn't happen.

I think it is possible for either thing to happen, but either way i think that it has certainly put green day on the music map, even if they weren't before.

[GaraGD]

I seriously hope that people wont just remember them as the guys that made an album fucking bush off

They're the gods of punk... I will remember cause of all their albums, the way each album had a different sound, the way they matured, all the things that made lmao

[katie]

alright gym class the last few years we would always listen to the radio

american idiot or holiday would come on, no one noticed

brain stew or basketcase came on, everyone sang along

i think american idiot was overrated during the time it was popular

shitty? no. overrated? yes.

[Viva La Junkpile]

You have to remember that American Idiot was in NO WAY their biggest album; that would be Dookie. They had lived under the shadow of Dookie for years. Few bands have a chance to do this twice as Green Day have done-- most bands play it safe and stick to the same thing all the time, producing good, but nothing spectacular. Green Day work really hard, and love the music they do; it wouldn't surprise me in the least if this happens again.

[FilmAdaptation]

"...and i had never heard of them before, the same goes for most people. ..."

That's just untrue.

[The Disappearing Boy]

"...and i had never heard of them before, the same goes for most people. ..."

That's just untrue.

i guess thats fair enough, but i guess what i meant is that i never remember them being huge before AI (i know they were when dookie came out but i was only 4 then!!)

[NickD]

i guess thats fair enough, but i guess what i meant is that i never remember them being huge before AI (i know they were when dookie came out but i was only 4 then!!)

I can remember a few times Green Day were "huge" and on the charts:

From Dookie: Longview, Welcome to Paradise, When I Come Around

You want more? Maybe some from other albums not called Dookie? Okay then!

From Insomniac: Brainstew/Jaded, Walking Contradiction

From Nimrod: Good Riddance, Redundant (somewhat), Nice Guys Finish Last

From Warning: Minority

From Others: Poprocks and Coke, Maria, I Fought The Law

All of these songs put them on the charts. Where on the charts? Different spots, sure, but all of these songs got a LOT of play-time on the radio and MTV. A LOT.

[RebelofSuburbia]

but either way i think that it has certainly put green day on the music map, even if they weren't before.

Really, it was Dookie that put Green Day on the music map.

I think that in the long run people will remember Green Day for songs like Basket Case, Longview and Good Riddance. Sure there might be the former teenies of today who'll go like 'Green Day? Oooh they did that September song right??' today and a few years from now. But the people who'll remember Green Day decades from now, are the ones that really have a love for music, the ones who'll remember the chords and the lyrics to the songs, rather than the color Billie Joe's hair was in the certain video.

[GaraGD]

Really, it was Dookie that put Green Day on the music map.

I think that in the long run people will remember Green Day for songs like Basket Case, Longview and Good Riddance. Sure there might be the former teenies of today who'll go like 'Green Day? Oooh they did that September song right??' today and a few years from now. But the people who'll remember Green Day decades from now, are the ones that really have a love for music, the ones who'll remember the chords and the lyrics to the songs, rather than the color Billie Joe's hair was in the certain video.

Yep, well said

[Boston]

of course that will happen. Green Day were "The guys who made Dookie," and "The guys who sang 'Time Of Your Life" before American Idiot. I highly doubt they'll come out with something big enough to break the bonds of this one. They're getting up there.

[RebelofSuburbia]

^ of course people are gonna remember them doing American Idiot too. But I think in this thread they meant if Green Day will be remembered only for AI

[Parley]

either way i think that it has certainly put green day on the music map, even if they weren't before.

They were on the music map long before. Please.

[Anko]

It's possible :/

[queso]

at the very least (if their albums after AI dont pan out/aren't as good) they will be remembered for AI annnnnnd dookie.

hopefully their next album will be as good or better *crosses fingers*

[Jose Luis]

not only for AI, but will probably along with dookie

well, i hope they are remembered for Dookie and AI, not for AI and Dookie

[GaraGD]

Dookie putted Green Day on music map definitely... But till the release of AI, they werent such a big deal in music

Even with Dookie. Cause now all those people that listens to 50 cent's and whatsoever know them as the "American Idiot" band. And its true! Not that AI's better than Dookie, but that putted then on people's mouth definitely

And thats why a lot of people started saying they made comercial music (idiots), cause now they are more popular than they were with dookie or warning.

But yeah, lotsa people gonna remember them cause of AI

[Jose Luis]

Dookie putted Green Day on music map definitely... But till the release of AI, they werent such a big deal in music

how. could. you?

[GaraGD]

how. could. you?

Its true! Im not saying Dookie is bad! Dookie rocks my socks. But they werent as known as they are now with the release of AI

[Jose Luis]

Its true! Im not saying Dookie is bad! Dookie rocks my socks. But they werent as known as they are now with the release of AI

[GaraGD]

Ok now im lost... what you meant there ?

[Jose Luis]

Ok now im lost... what you meant there ?

it was just a sarcastic " "

[GaraGD]

it was just a sarcastic " "

Aah ...

[SkippyNXC]

I disagree... dookie made them HUGE... at least where I'm from... everyone had the green day things sewn on the backpacks, had on t-shirts, etc. brainstew/jaded again big deal (not as big as dookie but still played ALLL the freggin time) i remember when warning came out and i heard minority on the radio for the 1st time... ran out got that cd too... the station i listened to played these songs damn near 24/7

i guess ur view on this is gonna depend on a few factors...

1) your current age (if ur young u may not remember back during dookie)

2) the circles u traveled in (i've always been into punk/alt-rock etc. so i guess i wouldn't have missed much)

3) when u got into green day... (tho i admit i just recently started partaking in the online community, i've been a big fan of them since dookie)

i think its amazing they got out of the shadow of dookie... that's pretty impressive... most groups/artists never accomplish that when they have such a huge hit!

personally whenever i think green day the song basket case comes to mind before american idiot

[randomness]

Its true! Im not saying Dookie is bad! Dookie rocks my socks. But they werent as known as they are now with the release of AI

you were only 2 when dookie came out though, so how do you know dookie didn't make them as big as AI did? i don't know either, i was only 6, but no matter how big a record is it has to die down sometime. it can't stay that big for 10 years. they may have had just as many fans and attention as they did when AI come out, except those fans might have decreased over the years.

[GaraGD]

I disagree... dookie made them HUGE... at least where I'm from... everyone had the green day things sewn on the backpacks, had on t-shirts, etc. brainstew/jaded again big deal (not as big as dookie but still played ALLL the freggin time) i remember when warning came out and i heard minority on the radio for the 1st time... ran out got that cd too... the station i listened to played these songs damn near 24/7i guess ur view on this is gonna depend on a few factors...1) your current age (if ur young u may not remember back during dookie)2) the circles u traveled in (i've always been into punk/alt-rock etc. so i guess i wouldn't have missed much)3) when u got into green day... (tho i admit i just recently started partaking in the online community, i've been a big fan of them since dookie)

Yeah i know Dookie made them huge... But prolly made them more huge there than it did hereCause now lots of people turned punk or emo cause of green day... some of them dont even know their other records, only AI.At least here, until American Idiot, almost no1 i know knew who Green Day were

you were only 2 when dookie came out though, so how do you know dookie didn't make them as big as AI did? i don't know either, i was only 6, but no matter how big a record is it has to die down sometime. it can't stay that big for 10 years. they may have had just as many fans and attention as they did when AI come out, except those fans might have decreased over the years.

I know cause my sister is always telling me that... AI was a much greater deal than Dookie was, at least here. She's always telling that they sold out, but shes a douchebag...