FruscianteForPrez08 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 ^ I like that idea armatageshanks, maybe Armstrong will shut her up... and if she's hating Green Day so much, why join this forum? She has the right to and everything, but I just find it stupid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie. Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 i guess the biggest question i have is, why does it matter?selling shit with your name and logos on it has little to no affect on the music. so how is it relevant?green day aren't fucking fugazi, why shouldn't they sell merch?well of course it has no affect on the music, but it raises the status and income of a band. you become their walking billboard. now, it's fine to support your favourite band with wearing a tee, but what's the fucking point of GD jocks and undies? bandaids? the point is to make more moolahs than you already have and deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicalDeviant Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 well from what I've heard, the boys still live in dinghy old Berkeley. best neighbourhood in Berkeley, I suppose.Actually, they live in Oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruscianteForPrez08 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 well of course it has no affect on the music, but it raises the status and income of a band. you become their walking billboard. now, it's fine to support your favourite band with wearing a tee, but what's the fucking point of GD jocks and undies? bandaids? the point is to make more moolahs than you already have and deserve.actually, bands make VERY little money off of merch, it mostly goes to the company selling the merch... and at shows, the merch goes to the venue, at least in GD's case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie. Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Don't compare rubbish like Rancid to Green Day.They're nothing remotely close to Green Day.Before you try to make a useless argument, know what you're talking about first.wtf man, have you listened to a Rancid record? they have more to do with Green Day than most other bands. for one, Green Day were and are hugely influenced by Op Ivy and Rancid's sound. they both HAVE very similar sound and roots. you haven't met anyone who's actually a fan of punk, have you? cuz even if you weren't a fan, you wouldn't call them rubbish and you'd be aware of how much they mean to punk today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klytaemnestra Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 well duh, they'll always do the band for the music. they're awesome musicians.well. didn't they go against dressing like everyone else did when they initially started? wouldn't they have gone against all this expensive merch crap merely half a decade ago?you've missed the point. reel them in with pretty-looking music and rebellious anti-war stances and then make a whole line of merch of almost anything and everything. and what do you get? more than you're worth.okay, maybe i didn't make myself clear enough. as far as i can tell, they're in it for the music and nothing else. sure, you're gonna get money, but face it. just cuz a band makes an awesome album which sells millions of copies, doesn't mean they've sold out.i think i can remember reading somewhere that the band don't have any decision about the merch. and like Kelly & Wes said, how does the merch affect the music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomness Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 why does it matter to you how much merch there is?i'm gonna keep saying it until you answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie. Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 exactly.so what if someone wants a GD alarm clock or shoelaces? like armatageshanks said, it doesn't affect the music so why should you care?well for me at least, Green Day were more than just the music. that's why I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armatageshanks Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 well of course it has no affect on the music, but it raises the status and income of a band. you become their walking billboard. now, it's fine to support your favourite band with wearing a tee, but what's the fucking point of GD jocks and undies? bandaids? the point is to make more moolahs than you already have and deserve.so what if somebody wants to be a walking green day billboard? that shouldn't mean shit to you.i don't know what your hangup with money is. it's like you imagine billie joe, mike and tre sitting in solid gold bathtubs full of $100 bills.obviously you've become too punxxxorzzz for a band who is actually popular and wants to stay popular. so maybe you should go listen to some black flag and fugazi and leave now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relavar Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 wtf man, have you listened to a Rancid record? they have more to do with Green Day than most other bands. for one, Green Day were and are hugely influenced by Op Ivy and Rancid's sound. they both HAVE very similar sound and roots. you haven't met anyone who's actually a fan of punk, have you? cuz even if you weren't a fan, you wouldn't call them rubbish and you'd be aware of how much they mean to punk today.Excuse me? Just because I think Rancid fucking sucks, doesn't mean I haven't met anyone punk. That was just, retarded.Nobody is punk anymore anyway.---Rancid has similar roots. That's it.I respect their influence, but that will never change the fact that I think they sound horrible.And, If i weren't a fan? If you're trying to say if i was a fan, than you're an absolute idiot.Just because I don't like one of their influences doesn't make me any less of a devote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomness Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 well for me at least, Green Day were more than just the music. that's why I care.what do you mean by more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruscianteForPrez08 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 wtf man, have you listened to a Rancid record? they have more to do with Green Day than most other bands. for one, Green Day were and are hugely influenced by Op Ivy and Rancid's sound. they both HAVE very similar sound and roots. you haven't met anyone who's actually a fan of punk, have you? cuz even if you weren't a fan, you wouldn't call them rubbish and you'd be aware of how much they mean to punk today.actually, Green Day and Rancid are equally credited with making punk explode, in my opinion, so if you're gonna get pissed at punk being all popular and commercial, blame them both... Tim has frequently shown his love of GD, and he and Billie are in a band together and are good friends..http://www.geekstinkbreath.net/greenday/ne...Armstrong-band/And anyway, I wouldn't diss Relavar, he's been here longer than you for sure...and I'm pretty sure "punks" appreciate spelling, "cuz" we here at GDC find it essential... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 And anyway, I wouldn't diss Relavar, he's been here longer than you for sure...Don't start that crap again, didn't you learn from attempting to call netty a noob troll ?He's been here 4 months as opposed to your less than 2... a real veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickin'pickin' Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Look, who gives a fuck.I personally think Green day sold out.But i still like most of their records.Music is music.Get the fuck over yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillie Boe. Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Don't start that crap again, didn't you learn from attempting to call netty a noob troll ?He's been here 4 months as opposed to your less than 2... a real veteran.Noob troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomness Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luli Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 mm i think that if you don't like Green Day music you wont buy all their stuff.so, if they are making all this for you.. who cares?No one is making you buy this things, close your eyes if you are so annoyed when you see some of their stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relavar Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trollOh my god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Oh my god.http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/n00b-54491.jpgI had that as a sig for a while, ages back.But what's it got to do with anything here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relavar Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I had that as a sig for a while, ages back.But what's it got to do with anything here?Oh I just thought that was funny.--Anyway, Green Day sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarPlayer5 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Did Dwight Yoakam sellout?CNNTonight at 8/7c! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotsky Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 so what if somebody wants to be a walking green day billboard? that shouldn't mean shit to you.i don't know what your hangup with money is. it's like you imagine billie joe, mike and tre sitting in solid gold bathtubs full of $100 bills.obviously you've become too punxxxorzzz for a band who is actually popular and wants to stay popular. so maybe you should go listen to some black flag and fugazi and leave now.Interestingly enough everyone who whines about bands selling out always loves talking about how good bands like Black Flag and The Sex Pistols and Dead Kennedys are. Which have become mainstream bands for any punk to like. So now everyone who whines about mainstream bands like the most sterotypical punk bads of the 80's. Hypocrisy much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tits McGee Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Green Day sold out when they made their first record.So did every band, actually. I can't think of a band that didn't sell out.But by popular teen-talk meaning of "sell out", still no. They make whatever fucking music they like to. As soon as Green Day puts out a full album with no cuss words, masturbation themes, or drug themes I'll call them sell outs.But so far, hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetOnOverdrive Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 FUUUUUUUUUUCK please people thats what you do if you have that kind opertunity people who don't take them are just idiots who are scared of the fukin challenge. So maybe they did sell out but fuck it if they didn't me or you probably wouldn't have heard of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine2385 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I want to say no, they didn't because the opportunity came to have their music heard by a larger audience and by that they are being smart about their career. As the fame grew bigger and bigger, they are able to help the world such as katrina victims and Dafur victims as well. And that helps to get their message across. They're still being true to their music, true to the fans and most importantly true to them selves. They're using fame for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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