dan2002 Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Yeah, I posted about it earlier. I can't tell if his neck pup is a P-90 or the Alnico V like on the 1954 VOSI really wouldn't mind having one of these: http://www.gibsoncustom.com/flash/products...1954Custom.htmlCarved mahogany topNon-weight relieved I'm pretty sure that his neck pup is an Alnico V because it has those vertical blade pole pieces. But knowing Billie, it probally is a real '54 Les Paul Custom and not a reissue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootbeersoup Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I'm pretty sure that his neck pup is an Alnico V because it has those vertical blade pole pieces. But knowing Billie, it probally is a real '54 Les Paul Custom and not a reissue.Yeah, I saw later that it was an Alnico VIt may be a real 1954 custom. His doesn't have the grovers like the reissue has, but I don't know whether the real thing had klusons or grovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaatelite radio Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 It seems like a few people here love every single thing that Green Day does. Im not saying I dont like them, Im a huge fan, but the performance was bad. And these covers (yes i know they're for a good cause) are horrible. Its like if Green Day all shit in a bag and called it DOOKIE 2 the few i mentioned earlier would say how wonderful it was. And this good cause stuff? yea sure they're "helping out" by playing a song, but ha...see through it for what its really for: PUBLICITY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootbeersoup Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 It seems like a few people here love every single thing that Green Day does. Im not saying I dont like them, Im a huge fan, but the performance was bad. And these covers (yes i know they're for a good cause) are horrible. Its like if Green Day all shit in a bag and called it DOOKIE 2 the few i mentioned earlier would say how wonderful it was. And this good cause stuff? yea sure they're "helping out" by playing a song, but ha...see through it for what its really for: PUBLICITY.I thought the cover was good, and I hate Green Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan. Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 You guys need to stop arguing. Remember, we're one big and happy family! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Lite 1 Mind Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Is the performance really as good as everyone says? I've yet to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan. Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Ohhhhh, yeah. And this is coming from a former Green Day fan who recently re-converted herself to a Green Day fan after watching that performance. It was AMAZING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcause Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 There is so much pain in this world, so much fucking tragedy - it would be a wonderful thing if we could just applaud and encourage the people who try to help, inside of looking at them with cynicism and shitting on their efforts. It would be a wonderful thing if we could for once imagine that people do stuff out of the goodness of their hearts, because they have compassion, and because they think that singing a song on a cheesy tv show is worth the loss of their cred in some quarters if it goes towards saving lives in some faraway hell. How well I remember Barbara Bush's remarks about the lack of media coverage for the soldiers who come home dead - "Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" Green Day are California millionaires - why should they waste their minds on someone else's tragedy, why should they drag that tragedy right into the heart of primetime tv, sing a song that has little appeal for current taste ? They don't have to - if they wanted publicity, all they have to do is step in front of a camera for any spurious reason, because they're maybe the hottest band in the world right now. I doubt anyone in Darfur cares much about whether GD are behaving in a manner that's acceptable to their fanbase - they don't have that luxury, what with the genocide and such. If you were living in Darfur right now, could you imagine hope? Could you maybe imagine that people who are safe and don't have to give a shit about your plight would try to help you? You would have to hope, because that's all you'd have - that candle surrounded by barbed wire, that light in the darkness. How can we have hope for ourselves if we can't believe in each other? How can we have good if we can't even imagine it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxx Sarah xxx Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Ok, I've read the last few pages of this thread.This is my opinion. Green Day were perfect. They performed this song perfectly. Billie's voice was perfect. The music was perfect. They're clothes were perfect for the mood of the song. The graphics on the screen were just as it should be. The lighting was great because it was not garish and did not overly emphasise the band. They shared the stage with the images of John Lennon and Darfur behind them. They performed this song more solemnly which was exactly how it should be. It's a serious song with a strong and serious message. The Darfur situation is horrible beyond our imagination. The money that this song will raise will go a long way to ease some of the suffering. Green Day can be thanked for that. Amnesty can be thanked for that.It was a very smart move for whoever organised for Green Day to perform on the American Idol finale. It has reached millions of people. It has raised awareness of Darfur. The song has climbed on the Billboard charts which means more people are buying the song. Again, more money raised to ease the suffering in Darfur.Everything about this has been very good. It is beyond my comprehension why people would lose respect for Green Day for doing this, or why they think it was a boring performance, or why people would think Green Day will benefit from this financially. The people who think this have completely missed the point. They're in la la land. It has been said so many, many times throughout this whole forum what this song is about and what it's for, but some people STILL don't understand. I don't think they ever will. No amount of repeated explanations are getting in. :/ Luckily, most of the people get it, appreciate and are proud of Green Day. For me Green Day have always been, are now, and will always be the best band in the world - bar none! And yes, the close ups of Billie were totally beautiful!And there we go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaatelite radio Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 There is so much pain in this world, so much fucking tragedy - it would be a wonderful thing if we could just applaud and encourage the people who try to help, inside of looking at them with cynicism and shitting on their efforts. It would be a wonderful thing if we could for once imagine that people do stuff out of the goodness of their hearts, because they have compassion, and because they think that singing a song on a cheesy tv show is worth the loss of their cred in some quarters if it goes towards saving lives in some faraway hell.How well I remember Barbara Bush's remarks about the lack of media coverage for the soldiers who come home dead - "Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"Green Day are California millionaires - why should they waste their minds on someone else's tragedy, why should they drag that tragedy right into the heart of primetime tv, sing a song that has little appeal for current taste ? They don't have to - if they wanted publicity, all they have to do is step in front of a camera for any spurious reason, because they're maybe the hottest band in the world right now.I doubt anyone in Darfur cares much about whether GD are behaving in a manner that's acceptable to their fanbase - they don't have that luxury, what with the genocide and such. If you were living in Darfur right now, could you imagine hope? Could you maybe imagine that people who are safe and don't have to give a shit about your plight would try to help you? You would have to hope, because that's all you'd have - that candle surrounded by barbed wire, that light in the darkness.How can we have hope for ourselves if we can't believe in each other? How can we have good if we can't even imagine it? Oh boy. I bet if you were in a band you would do a gig like that for what they're getting paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcause Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I'd do it for free - lol, then you'd suppose I'd be doing it for the publicity! There's no point in trying to convince people of your motivation, and I guess Green Day have always known that - you just have to do what you know in your heart is right. Some of us do that, believe it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*withoutadoubt* Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 There is so much pain in this world, so much fucking tragedy - it would be a wonderful thing if we could just applaud and encourage the people who try to help, inside of looking at them with cynicism and shitting on their efforts. It would be a wonderful thing if we could for once imagine that people do stuff out of the goodness of their hearts, because they have compassion, and because they think that singing a song on a cheesy tv show is worth the loss of their cred in some quarters if it goes towards saving lives in some faraway hell. How well I remember Barbara Bush's remarks about the lack of media coverage for the soldiers who come home dead - "Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" Green Day are California millionaires - why should they waste their minds on someone else's tragedy, why should they drag that tragedy right into the heart of primetime tv, sing a song that has little appeal for current taste ? They don't have to - if they wanted publicity, all they have to do is step in front of a camera for any spurious reason, because they're maybe the hottest band in the world right now. I doubt anyone in Darfur cares much about whether GD are behaving in a manner that's acceptable to their fanbase - they don't have that luxury, what with the genocide and such. If you were living in Darfur right now, could you imagine hope? Could you maybe imagine that people who are safe and don't have to give a shit about your plight would try to help you? You would have to hope, because that's all you'd have - that candle surrounded by barbed wire, that light in the darkness. How can we have hope for ourselves if we can't believe in each other? How can we have good if we can't even imagine it?Your words always touch me and make me think, Angeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 There is so much pain in this world, so much fucking tragedy - it would be a wonderful thing if we could just applaud and encourage the people who try to help, inside of looking at them with cynicism and shitting on their efforts. It would be a wonderful thing if we could for once imagine that people do stuff out of the goodness of their hearts, because they have compassion, and because they think that singing a song on a cheesy tv show is worth the loss of their cred in some quarters if it goes towards saving lives in some faraway hell. How well I remember Barbara Bush's remarks about the lack of media coverage for the soldiers who come home dead - "Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" Green Day are California millionaires - why should they waste their minds on someone else's tragedy, why should they drag that tragedy right into the heart of primetime tv, sing a song that has little appeal for current taste ? They don't have to - if they wanted publicity, all they have to do is step in front of a camera for any spurious reason, because they're maybe the hottest band in the world right now. I doubt anyone in Darfur cares much about whether GD are behaving in a manner that's acceptable to their fanbase - they don't have that luxury, what with the genocide and such. If you were living in Darfur right now, could you imagine hope? Could you maybe imagine that people who are safe and don't have to give a shit about your plight would try to help you? You would have to hope, because that's all you'd have - that candle surrounded by barbed wire, that light in the darkness. How can we have hope for ourselves if we can't believe in each other? How can we have good if we can't even imagine it?This was so eloquent.Famous people get flack for doing things to help because they are famous. How do we know they would not do the same thing were they not famous. They wouldn't have the means to do as much, but how do we know they wouldn't do something? If you go on a show, and know that you are going to be beaten down to further a cause, I have a feeling you would help even if you weren't famous.We also have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. How much money they give, what else they do. It could be more than what is just on the surface to promote helping people. You said things better than I, but that is my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phoebe. Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I'm just watching it on telly (ITV1) for the first time It's a good show. I like the awards.Waiting for GD though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bat-chen Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I'd do it for free - lol, then you'd suppose I'd be doing it for the publicity! There's no point in trying to convince people of your motivation, and I guess Green Day have always known that - you just have to do what you know in your heart is right. Some of us do that, believe it or not. I'm with you and unfortunately there a lot of critical people in the world :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finks bitch Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 great performance by green day and the smile that billie gave at the end was just so cute and sexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissors Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 i was about to stop watching when i saw billie's sexy face staring at me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodday Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 ........Everything about this has been very good. It is beyond my comprehension why people would lose respect for Green Day for doing this, or why they think it was a boring performance, or why people would think Green Day will benefit from this financially. The people who think this have completely missed the point. They're in la la land. It has been said so many, many times throughout this whole forum what this song is about and what it's for, but some people STILL don't understand. I don't think they ever will. No amount of repeated explanations are getting in. :/ Yeah Maribel, I agree with you: I can't understand why people would lose respect for them and Im bit tired of it.....There is so much pain in this world, so much fucking tragedy - it would be a wonderful thing if we could just applaud and encourage the people who try to help, inside of looking at them with cynicism and shitting on their efforts. It would be a wonderful thing if we could for once imagine that people do stuff out of the goodness of their hearts, because they have compassion, and because they think that singing a song on a cheesy tv show is worth the loss of their cred in some quarters if it goes towards saving lives in some faraway hell. How well I remember Barbara Bush's remarks about the lack of media coverage for the soldiers who come home dead - "Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" Green Day are California millionaires - why should they waste their minds on someone else's tragedy, why should they drag that tragedy right into the heart of primetime tv, sing a song that has little appeal for current taste ? They don't have to - if they wanted publicity, all they have to do is step in front of a camera for any spurious reason, because they're maybe the hottest band in the world right now. I doubt anyone in Darfur cares much about whether GD are behaving in a manner that's acceptable to their fanbase - they don't have that luxury, what with the genocide and such. If you were living in Darfur right now, could you imagine hope? Could you maybe imagine that people who are safe and don't have to give a shit about your plight would try to help you? You would have to hope, because that's all you'd have - that candle surrounded by barbed wire, that light in the darkness. How can we have hope for ourselves if we can't believe in each other? How can we have good if we can't even imagine it?I hope everyone here read your words Angeline ....and I hope that no one here needs one day that a band get up in a stage to help them while people around is talking like "ah, I don't like covers" "ah, its for money" "ah, they lost the respect" :bored: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anko Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 There is so much pain in this world, so much fucking tragedy - it would be a wonderful thing if we could just applaud and encourage the people who try to help, inside of looking at them with cynicism and shitting on their efforts. It would be a wonderful thing if we could for once imagine that people do stuff out of the goodness of their hearts, because they have compassion, and because they think that singing a song on a cheesy tv show is worth the loss of their cred in some quarters if it goes towards saving lives in some faraway hell. How well I remember Barbara Bush's remarks about the lack of media coverage for the soldiers who come home dead - "Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" Green Day are California millionaires - why should they waste their minds on someone else's tragedy, why should they drag that tragedy right into the heart of primetime tv, sing a song that has little appeal for current taste ? They don't have to - if they wanted publicity, all they have to do is step in front of a camera for any spurious reason, because they're maybe the hottest band in the world right now. I doubt anyone in Darfur cares much about whether GD are behaving in a manner that's acceptable to their fanbase - they don't have that luxury, what with the genocide and such. If you were living in Darfur right now, could you imagine hope? Could you maybe imagine that people who are safe and don't have to give a shit about your plight would try to help you? You would have to hope, because that's all you'd have - that candle surrounded by barbed wire, that light in the darkness. How can we have hope for ourselves if we can't believe in each other? How can we have good if we can't even imagine it?Wow what a way to set the perspective The only thing that annoyed me was that they weretoo much of a pussy to not cencer it for the live audience :/It's just one step closer to actually cencering live T.V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsimighthave8 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 Hoi. Leave Lili alone. No picking on people who are seven years younger but still way cooler than you.Hah. Okay. I'll just do what some idiot off the internet tells me to. And anyway, it was all over a green font. That's cool. Piss off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootbeersoup Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 Hah. Okay. I'll just do what some idiot off the internet tells me to. And anyway, it was all over a green font. That's cool. Piss off./|>/|Green is soooooo not your color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle7107 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 UGHOMGWTFBBQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DUDE OMGZ I GOT THREE F'S ON MY REPORT CARD SO MY DAD TOOK AWAY MY INTERNET FOR A WEEK AND NOW I COME BACK AND THERES ALL OF THIS AWESOME NEWS AND I MISSED IT!!!!!GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!Okay sorry. But okay thats awesome that they preformed!But American Idol.........ick.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Smith Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 I fucking missed it... pissed me off.youtube quality sucks... fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxx Sarah xxx Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 I gotta say, that was a beautiful performance. Everything was just perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Smith Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 I gotta say, that was a beautiful performance. Everything was just perfect.The audio was decent on youtube, and I do have to say... Billie sounded really nice. Not completely on key, but allot better than his live performance of the saints!Still can't beat wake me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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