Newham Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Hello, first post and all. Big Green Day fan since well, forever. First album bought was Dookie, many moons ago. Anyway, i have become a touch disillusioned with the band just lately. Whilst their campaigns to bring down every government and save everybody and everything in the world is touching and heroic, i think it's about time Green Day realised they're still a rock band and that they have fans. I mean, is it really so much to ask for them to release more than one album in SEVEN years? Before anyone comes back in with 'they can do what they like, when they like', i would like to say that whilst that may be partly true, they do owe us a lot. We're the reason Billie-Joe has a huge house, Mike has a flash car and Tre has an expensive kit to destroy every night. Put frankly, they'd be nothing without us and it's frustrating to see them do everything but what they're good at - making us jump around like daft gits.American Idiot was brilliant, best album since Nimrod by some distance. It's been over three years since its release however, the Arctic Monkeys have released two quality albums in that time, Muse have released two epic albums too. In short, stop trying to save the world and get back to doing your jobs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomness Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 they released Warning in 2000, so that's 2 album in 7 years. it is a bit long to wait yeh, but awesome albums take time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetarianxorgasm Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 You know, I often think that. I really want new material, and I'd really love to see some more musicness...but then I remember.They are human, just like us. There are things that humans do, like be with family, recooperate after a tour, and other such things.And the whole saving the world thing is a good idea, to me. To me, it seems like it's promoting more activity in things that need to happen. I'm glad to see them actually taking some action and not actually just recording some politcal song in an air-conditioned studio. Honestly, by all means, let thjem save the world. Every little bit helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newham Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 they released Warning in 2000, so that's 2 album in 7 years. it is a bit long to wait yeh, but awesome albums take time Well, not really. If you're using facts selectively like i am, that means that from the 3rd of October 2000 to today, they've released one album in seven years...Anyway, my final paragraph proved that it doesn't take that long to write an awesome album. I could understand a couple of years, but this is massive breaks either side of AI.And the whole saving the world thing is a good idea, to me. To me, it seems like it's promoting more activity in things that need to happen. I'm glad to see them actually taking some action and not actually just recording some politcal song in an air-conditioned studio. Honestly, by all means, let thjem save the world. Every little bit helps.They're rock stars, not politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetarianxorgasm Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Well, not really. If you're using facts selectively like i am, that means that from the 3rd of October 2000 to today, they've released one album in seven years...Anyway, my final paragraph proved that it doesn't take that long to write an awesome album. I could understand a couple of years, but this is massive breaks either side of AI.They're rock stars, not politicians.Added:Puh-lease.I haven't even heard any of the Artic Monkeys stuff, and Muse is certainly nothing to match up to American Idiot. Trust the guys, they know what they are doing. I think, like I said, they should focus on themselves first.And why should the title matter? I'm a student, not a politician...and I can still do things like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newham Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 Puh-lease.I haven't even heard any of the Artic Monkeys stuff, and Muse is certainly nothing to match up to American Idiot. Both 'Absolution' and 'Black holes and Revelations' are far superior technically than American Idiot. Green Day are awesome and fun and all, but musically, they're very basic. Muse are perfection in musical form. Trust the guys, they know what they are doing. I think, like I said, they should focus on themselves first.You make it sound as though they've come back from Iraq. They released an album and went on a tour. Thousands of bands do it every year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetarianxorgasm Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Yeah, but do those bands dedicate as much time as Green Day has?Green Day has steadily put out records for a long time and has toured quite a bit. They're an old band and they aren't just your typical Indie band. They know they can make a difference and I think it's completely valueable. Seriously, I think it's time to stop whining. Listen to whatever is so great that's coming out, and that's the end of it. Green Day isn't dead. There'll be more.I wouldn't get tooooo angry about their lack of production.I entertain myself other ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newham Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 Yeah, but do those bands dedicate as much time as Green Day has?Well, yes. The AI tour ended years ago. Seriously, I think it's time to stop whining. Listen to whatever is so great that's coming out, and that's the end of it. Green Day isn't dead. There'll be more.I wouldn't get tooooo angry about their lack of production.Nobody is whining here, this is debate my friend. As i said, i'm not angry about their lack of production, just a touch disappointed. I could listen to them all day...I entertain myself other ways.This is a family forum love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomness Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 They are human, just like us. There are things that humans do, like be with family, recooperate after a tour, and other such things.exactly, i think people forget that sometimes.Well, not really. If you're using facts selectively like i am, that means that from the 3rd of October 2000 to today, they've released one album in seven years...7 years would be 1st may 2000-1st may 2007, which means they've released 2. it's petty and doesn't matter but yeh Both 'Absolution' and 'Black holes and Revelations' are far superior technically than American Idiot. Green Day are awesome and fun and all, but musically, they're very basic. Muse are perfection in musical form. You make it sound as though they've come back from Iraq. They released an album and went on a tour. Thousands of bands do it every year...but are those bands as good as Green Day? no some bands do take years from one album to the next. the last album Linkin Park released was in 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetarianxorgasm Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Ha. Me too. I've been dissapointed, too. But I guess I'm just more of a patient person. Not to mention I haven't listened to one of their albums in over a month. Been to busy with Pink Floyd or Smashing Pumpkins.I kind of welcome the presence of them in Habitat for Humanity or other politcal activities because I'd like to see more. I am a bit disapointed at the "Billie-Joeness" Green Day has become in his travels in political activity.But all in all, I just don't think being disapointed is going to make them make things any quicker, sadly. Oh well. At least they've left us with 8+ albums to keep preoccupied with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InternationalSuperhits! Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I was recently talking about this large gap between album releases with my dad . . .And the whole saving the world thing is a good idea, to me. To me, it seems like it's promoting more activity in things that need to happen. I'm glad to see them actually taking some action and not actually just recording some politcal song in an air-conditioned studio. Honestly, by all means, let thjem save the world. Every little bit helps.You're right, promoting activity is what needs to happen so more people are aware in what's going on in the world around them.Even though I do agree with the poster in how there seems to be a lack of albums, Green Day'll be back eventually. It's not like they just disappeared. They're doing other things at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 1.) Stop bitching. They're working on material now. They've already said they have alot of stuff to do and alot of ideas to kick around.2.) You don't have to be as good as Slash or Neil Peart to make great music. Green Day makes awsome music without needing to be technically advanced. (Keep in mind, a persons taste in music differs from other people, so it's all based on opinions)3.) No. This is not a family forum. Let the girl talk about her Vegan Sexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holes Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 If you want to get all technical, they wouldn't be famous without us yes, but we couldn't have done that if they hadn't written such good songs. Stop being a fair-weathered friend and get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Man Can Eat Fifty Eggs! Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I can't just lie and say that I'm not a little impatient for a new album, but you know what, Green Day have the kind of power that they've never had before. They're more famous than ever (thanks mostly to AI) and now they can make the kind of difference that actually makes a fucking difference. They have the power to change things they don't agree with now, instead of just writing songs about it. They can go out and do something, because people know them and want to follow their example. Green Day are true leaders. Besides, they are grown-ups with kids and I'm sure they want the world to be safe and peaceful for their kids. So the NRDC collaboration and such I think is a good idea.And they are working very hard on their music at the same time. And to me, that shows just how brilliant they are. They are doing everything they do for us. They aren't doing it for themselves, if you haven't noticed. They're trying to save the world for us. They're writing music for us. We are still important to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcause Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I disagree with the idea that Green Day are doing all this stuff for us.A true artist does what he or she does for one reason - because they have to, because it's their whole purpose in life. That the audience responds to this art is what an artist hopes for, but the act of creation itself is to satisfy what's in the artist - that's what makes it great, because they put themselves into it, and that doesn't come easy. Billie Joe and Green Day seek to challenge themselves with everything they do - otherwise, what would be the fucking point? What's real and meaningful takes as long as it takes, and I for one appreciate that Green Day always have the will and the vision to hold out for that. As for the humanitarian effort they've been making, to me that's as individuals acting as they see fit, and doing something that all of us could do - trying to make a difference, on whatever level. I never think of them as trying to save the world for me - I don't think that's their intention, and I'd find it pretty patronising if it was. All they ever do is give 'enough to argue' - ideas and actions that people can choose to accept or reject, to run with or to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeahandgrenade Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 it is really annoying.because at first i didn't mind the lull: i went to the concert, then i got a lot of their old albums, and then they had the saints are coming... bullet in a bible...jos music video...so i mean, they did a lot for american idiot, but now it's really boring. a year ago i could still find songs on my iPod by gd that i'd maybe only heard once or twice, but now i basically know everything they've done, and it's getting boring to not have anything new. so in the meantime, i find other bands to listen to. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 American Idiot was brilliant. No doubt about that. I think Green Day has the power now to make differences they couldnt before. Its easy to say, yes they are a rock band they should stick to it. But I think as successful as they are, they are wanting more to fullfill them. They want to feel like they are making a difference in something that matters. Or at least Billie does.I think they will hold true to their usual things they do. They wont put out shit. They will put out another album when they feel it is good enough to be released. If it isnt we will see a new release by The Network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofrageandlove Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I wonder who the members of The Network are.......I think the humanitarian causes the guys are supporting are wonderful, and I'm sure the next album will be spectacular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I disagree with the idea that Green Day are doing all this stuff for us.I dont think the threadstarter said Green Day was doing this for us. I think they were saying that Green Day wouldnt be in the position to do what they do if it wasnt for us. Basically meaning , come on guys, throw us a bone every now and then. :wink:More than once every seven years. (or in some people cases once every six years and 6 months and 27 days) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcause Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I dont think the threadstarter said Green Day was doing this for us. I think they were saying that Green Day wouldnt be in the position to do what they do if it wasnt for us. Basically meaning , come on guys, throw us a bone every now and then. :wink: More than once every seven years. (or in some people cases once every six years and 6 months and 27 days) Lol, did that post get edited? I'm pretty sure that comment was in there! Anyway, to the idea that they wouldn't be in a position to do what they do without us - doesn't mean we own them! As far as I'm concerned, the deal is they put out a record, I love it and that's why I buy it - I don't care what they do with their position or their money, although if they started supplying arms or somesuch, I'd really have to think twice about it!They don't owe me anything, it's paid in full with what their music has given me and continues to give me, regardless of whether they recorded it when they were sixteen or last week. I'm really happy that they're working - and waiting for the new stuff's a buzz, not an ordeal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holes Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I dont think the threadstarter said Green Day was doing this for us. I think they were saying that Green Day wouldnt be in the position to do what they do if it wasnt for us. Basically meaning , come on guys, throw us a bone every now and then. :wink:More than once every seven years. (or in some people cases once every six years and 6 months and 27 days)But they Did "throw us a bone" More than once in 7 years. They released an album that sold around 30 million copies. They went on a year long tour around the world. They released a Concert Movie. They raised money for those living in shit after a natural disaster. And they've got a song coming out tomorrow and a new album in process. How much more do you need? You have 9 albums to waste your time on! Then there's the dvd aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Man Can Eat Fifty Eggs! Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Yeah, I think Green Day makes music just for themselves to a degree, but we are their support system. They have to be doing it for us just a teensie bit. I mean, they wouldn't work half as hard as they do if they were just doing it for fun and for the hell of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakyprincess Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 although i have learnt all their songs by heart i still love them and i won't ever get bored i love these three guys and i trust them so i don't worry about a new job is released cause they know better when to do such thing. btw i love the fact that they are trying to improve world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch-PTV Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I like ice cream BACK ON TOPIC. umm yea its taking a while, but u gota give the guys a break. the wait wouldnt be as bad if they didnt say teh album was comin out in july 2006 lol. but give them time, the wait hopefuly will be worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmy Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 though thats true they do have lives, familys and other things to do i would love for them to release a new album soon but im sure it will be worth the wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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