Green Day Politics

[armatageshanks]

Yeah. Have you not noticed that?

[Ila Reto]

Yeah. Have you not noticed that?

no....

i just got on this through another thread somehow...i actually have no idea.

sorry...should i delete it then?

{edit} damn this is from 2007? wow i managed to screw this one up heh-heh. lets pretend i never came here.

[Trotsky]

lets pretend i never came

The stain on the bedsheets say otherwise

[HybridMoments]

The stain on the bedsheets say otherwise

Looks like you're the point-obvious stain.

I would compare American Idiot to the confused youth of America.

[**nobodylikesyou**]

yes lets please stop with the name calling...what are we 12 years old?

there's no need to get into arguements over political stuff...we get enough of that comming from the news.

are you serious?

[FruscianteForPrez08]

this thread is SO weird... I don't even know how to respond.

[Whatsername the rebel*star]

If you hate GD's politics, you got to know where you stand yourself politically. GD do not support Bush, that is one of their most distinctive politics. If you're not sure of what you think about politics in general and who you support, you can't just say that you don't like their politics

I agree You don't have to blend their music with their political ideas...Anyway I HATE BUSH :verymad: This doesn't mean I love GD cause they also fuckin hate him, right?

[MrGreenDayUK]

American Idiot isn't a political record. It's about as political as Warning was but it's called 'American Idiot', implying Bush, so it gets all this hype when it's just a regular rock record. Loads of people don't like Bush but that doesn't make them political. Holiday is anti-war, fine, that's not necesarily political either. The other songs are about love and stuff.

[chickin'pickin']

'love and stuff'

I envy your articulatory skills.

[brownie]

American Idiot isn't a political record. It's about as political as Warning was but it's called 'American Idiot', implying Bush, so it gets all this hype when it's just a regular rock record. Loads of people don't like Bush but that doesn't make them political. Holiday is anti-war, fine, that's not necesarily political either. The other songs are about love and stuff.

what he said

[Trotsky]

Realizing Bush is a murdering, lying, greedy fucktard doesn't really constitute "politics". Just common sense.

[MrGreenDayUK]

'love and stuff'

I envy your articulatory skills.

Like, shut up and all that shit, yeah.

[Nova-Caine]

As sad as the London bombings were, I think the death toll and destruction caused, hardly compared really.

I'll go tell that to one of my closest friend who spent months in hospital had dozens of surgeries and whitnessed god know what down there shall i after being in the carriage that exploded after leaving Kings Cross, she laid there for hours with someone elses legs impailed in her own, but of course its not comparable is it, it means nothing.

*sorry didn't realise this was an old post, didn't realise the thread was so old, it just fucked me off* sorry guys.

x

[Waffles]

listen to country

or celine dion

[Ila Reto]

this thread is SO weird... I don't even know how to respond.

it's okay, im in the same boat as you are.

wanna go on a different thread instead? i am.

nvm...i can ssoo tell im getting an award for "most obnixious n00b on here" if there ever was such a thing.

and *nobodylikesyou*, yes, i think i may be serious. im not quite exactly sure of what, but if i posted it i probably wasn't joking unless i put a little joking-type emoticon at the end.

okay. im gonna leave before i get completely chewed alive.

[**nobodylikesyou**]

'love and stuff'

I envy your articulatory skills.

if only we could all be perfect like you.

[M1KEY]

you've got to be kidding me.

you know that there are men out there trying to kill TERRORISTS who could kill even more people here in the states? the same kind of terrorists that killed the thousands of innocent people in 9/11? It's sad that inorder to fight of these terrorists, we have to kill men, but its not like this war has no purpose you know.

Oh the war totally has a purpose: OIL. But Bush couldn't attack without a 'real' cause, so he had his bro (not Jeb), who was chief of security at the World Trade Center, plant bombs throughout the two towers so that it would appear that they were actually taken down by these suicide hijackers flying passenger jets into them (which was also clearly orchestrated by the Bush admin).

Being against the war may not be "original", but at least it's the right side to be on. I firmly believe 9/11 was an inside job and that Bush and his admin. were fully involved. It was done for Iraq's oil, but so many people were so effing blinded by the horrors of the attacks on the Trade Center they still can't see the truth (or refuse to). The "War on Terror" is a pile of horseshit, and if they really wanted to fight the terrorists responsible, they would blow their own fucking brains out.

[chickin'pickin']

I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job. That is all.

[M1KEY]

American Idiot isn't a political record. It's about as political as Warning was but it's called 'American Idiot', implying Bush, so it gets all this hype when it's just a regular rock record. Loads of people don't like Bush but that doesn't make them political. Holiday is anti-war, fine, that's not necesarily political either. The other songs are about love and stuff.

Um... I don't think American Idiot necessarily implies Bush himself...

I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job. That is all.

Can we still be friends?

[communitykid]

So what if he wrote many songs on it? Doesn't mean what he saying is right.

In order to really know politics is to read books after books after books on events such as the Gulf War, and the 9/11 Report, and then find other books and read other viewpoints on the same topic and then study what each of them are saying. Not only that, in order to really really know politics is to somewhat take a political science course in college. I really don't think Billie Joe spends all his time reading shit like that, nor has he gone to college.

I agree, but also disagree. I think that a full minded person could easily pick up plenty of political knowledge throughout their lives. Aside from that, it's not as if they got all too political. They just said that they didn't approve of Bush's reign in the White House, and that America's a fucked up country. They haven't gone into any detail about how they feel politically, and so I feel that they cannot be judged.

"You can't judge a book by it's cover."

I do agree that just because somebody writes a few songs on something, doesn't mean they have a clue about what they're talking about. Everybody can write, but so few can explain what the fuck they're writing about. Mostly though, I feel you, nor anybody else that doesn't have a personal relationship with Billie Joe can judge on his political opinion.

Oh, one more thing....

Why do you doubt Billie Joe reads a lot of political books? What would lead you to believe that he doesn't?

[chickin'pickin']

Can we still be friends?

Haha, sure

I agree, but also disagree. I think that a full minded person could easily pick up plenty of political knowledge throughout their lives. Aside from that, it's not as if they got all too political. They just said that they didn't approve of Bush's reign in the White House, and that America's a fucked up country. They haven't gone into any detail about how they feel politically, and so I feel that they cannot be judged.

"You can't judge a book by it's cover."

I do agree that just because somebody writes a few songs on something, doesn't mean they have a clue about what they're talking about. Everybody can write, but so few can explain what the fuck they're writing about. Mostly though, I feel you, nor anybody else that doesn't have a personal relationship with Billie Joe can judge on his political opinion.

Oh, one more thing....

Why do you doubt Billie Joe reads a lot of political books? What would lead you to believe that he doesn't?

I think what most people tend to forget is that politics is involved in most things.

[communitykid]

Dear God after reading around in this thread for awhile I'm thinking anarchistloserkid needs to get his ass in here.

[Hermione]

I don't think 9/11 was an inside job. However once it happened it was twisted in order to justify the 'War On Terror' and oil-grabbing by instilling fear in people through propaganda.

As far as Green Day and politics, I think they just express how they are personally affected by their surroundings. If they happen to be affected by world events, they might well write about it, but it's more on a personal level than a direct political one. The political side of American Idiot is just part of setting the scene for when and where the story takes place.

This thread is ooold

[Guest give me novacaine-jos]

edited

[M1KEY]

Also, regarding Billie's "lack of reading books on politics"... a few years back he did leave one of those voicemails on greenday.com stating that 'Dude, Where's My Country?' was his favorite Christmas gift he'd received that year. So... we know he likes to read political books. Of course, the validity of Michael Moore's sources and opinions can come into question here, but the fact remains the book is a political one, and it is quite possible that this isn't the only one of its kind Billie has read.