Green Day Politics

[BiscuitBoy]

Yeah, but again....wouldn't the most logical place for Saddam to be is in Iraq? he was their leader. I can see how he could have had connections to Osama (which he probably did, again, I don't know much about this), but still, shouldn't we have gone after Afghanistan?

that's true too.

well, I guess mission accomplished there, cause he's dead.

yeh, but that was pretty much a disaster as well.

[scissors]

i'm not crazy about their politics either, although i must say they do have some points. America is in a bit of a mess right now. as for their music, not all of it is political. you could ignore the doublemeaningsand allusions, or you could listen to their old stuff, like dookie, insomniac nimrod.....

[Orangebowls]

Don't worry, the same kid told me to shut my mouth as well.

He's just jealous.

I'm a she actually.

& I wasn't trying to start a huge fight! I just got frusterated because I don't believe that you should be worrying about terrorists when there are much worse matters in the world.

There have been no terrorist attacks for a while, so I have no understanding why you keep freaking out about it? I donno.

Everyones just under the influence that everyone from Iraq, & all Iraqi people are bad.

But they're not, they're just confused, not all of them are terrorists you know?

But what would I know? I'm a 13 year old girl, who cares what I think? :/

[TotalBasketCase13]

You're absolutely right, and there is no Iraq connection. The Administration has even admitted such, but whenever there is some kind of speech to the nation, Iraq, 9/11, bin Laden, and Saddam are mentioned in the same sentence to trick us.

It's a sick tactic, but apparently it worked.

I knew it!

[Orangebowls]

Thank fuck he is. What a bastard.

He may have been a bastard, but George Bush has killed equally as much people, so why isn't he dead?

Something to think about huh?

& I don't even agree with the death penalty.

"Lets kill people because they killed people! That will work!"

What a stupid idea.

[city.girl]

I'm a she actually.

& I wasn't trying to start a huge fight! I just got frusterated because I don't believe that you should be worrying about terrorists when there are much worse matters in the world.

There have been no terrorist attacks for a while, so I have no understanding why you keep freaking out about it? I donno.

Everyones just under the influence that everyone from Iraq, & all Iraqi people are bad.

But they're not, they're just confused, not all of them are terrorists you know?

But what would I know? I'm a 13 year old girl, who cares what I think? :/

Hhaha sorry for the gender mix up.

I tend to think everyone here is a guy..

aaaand you shouldn't worry about what I think about worrying

you should just accept the fact that I'm going to believe what I believe

and you still have a lot to learn, just as I do

Maybe you'll change your mind later on and see my point, maybe not

But, honestly I don't think you see where i'm coming from

really, Im not a big fan of war, but I am worried about Israel and America

and I find this war necessary

[BiscuitBoy]

He may have been a bastard, but George Bush has killed equally as much people, so why isn't he dead?

Something to think about huh?

& I don't even agree with the death penalty.

"Lets kill people because they killed people! That will work!"

What a stupid idea.

but there is a slight difference in that the iraqis havent tried to over throw american power and try bush for war crimes, and therefore he cant be put to death like saddam was. dont you think?

[city.girl]

He may have been a bastard, but George Bush has killed equally as much people, so why isn't he dead?

Something to think about huh?

& I don't even agree with the death penalty.

"Lets kill people because they killed people! That will work!"

What a stupid idea.

Saddam Hussein killed people with his own bloody hands, raped many 13 year old girls like you, beheaded countless number of people.

He was a dictator, and he was inhumane.

Bush first of, didnt do any of that shit, with his own hands.

And secondly, Bush sent troops in to help save people.

Saddam killed people because he felt like it.

[Orangebowls]

Hhaha sorry for the gender mix up.

I tend to think everyone here is a guy..

aaaand you shouldn't worry about what I think about worrying

you should just accept the fact that I'm going to believe what I believe

and you still have a lot to learn, just as I do

Maybe you'll change your mind later on and see my point, maybe not

But, honestly I don't think you see where i'm coming from

really, Im not a big fan of war, but I am worried about Israel and America

and I find this war necessary

Hahaha Same here to be honest.

But yeah, You believe what you believe, & if we disagree, Who cares! People are entitled to their opinions right?

You think that the Iraqi war is worth fighting for, & I disagree, but who cares, I can't change your view.

I just think that global warming is worse on the whole, but you disagree, & thats fine, because I'm entitled to my view & you to yours.

I must admit, this was quite a good argument, I haven't had a political discussion for quite some time now, thanks.

[city.girl]

Hahaha Same here to be honest.

But yeah, You believe what you believe, & if we disagree, Who cares! People are entitled to their opinions right?

You think that the Iraqi war is worth fighting for, & I disagree, but who cares, I can't change your view.

I just think that global warming is worse on the whole, but you disagree, & thats fine, because I'm entitled to my view & you to yours.

I must admit, this was quite a good argument, I haven't had a political discussion for quite some time now, thanks.

welcome

and for pointers

next time your in debate, don't tell people to shut up

nor tell people they're stupid

quite immature

[Orangebowls]

but there is a slight difference in that the iraqis havent tried to over throw american power and try bush for war crimes, and therefore he cant be put to death like saddam was. dont you think?

Yes, you are completely right there, But I just don't see the fairness in it all to be honest. He still killed people, no matter what way he did it or not. It was his idea.

But meh, I don't think that Saddam should've been sent to the death penalty, they should've just thrown him in jail for the rest of his life, & rot, & the same should go to George Bush.

But What's done is done right?

welcome

and for pointers

next time your in debate, don't tell people to shut up

nor tell people they're stupid

quite immature

Yes, I realize.

I'm just super tired & cranky, & the coffee I have is bad

I was just being critical is all, but I realize not to do that, ever again.

[Blackjack]

Saddam Hussein killed people with his own bloody hands, raped many 13 year old girls like you, beheaded countless number of people.

He was a dictator, and he was inhumane.

Bush first of, didnt do any of that shit, with his own hands.

And secondly, Bush sent troops in to help save people.

Saddam killed people because he felt like it.

Do you think that it would feel different to an Iraqi mother of a dead son which party killed her son if he was still dead?

[city.girl]

christ im done arguing with you kids

[BiscuitBoy]

Yes, you are completely right there, But I just don't see the fairness in it all to be honest. He still killed people, no matter what way he did it or not. It was his idea.

But meh, I don't think that Saddam should've been sent to the death penalty, they should've just thrown him in jail for the rest of his life, & rot, & the same should go to George Bush.

But What's done is done right?

yes, but this leads to another debate on whether the death penalty should be used etc, which im not prepared to go into.

but basically, he did still pose a threat to safety, and as unlikely as it was he could of still escaped, and what the hell would he have done then? because i doubt it would of been pleasant. and keeping someone in jail for the rest of their lives costs money, especially under that amount of security.

and thousands of country leaders throughout the world have done things that many people believe they should be put to death for, the simple reality is that George bush will never go through that.

[Orangebowls]

yes, but this leads to another debate on whether the death penalty should be used etc, which im not prepared to go into.

but basically, he did still pose a threat to safety, and as unlikely as it was he could of still escaped, and what the hell would he have done then? because i doubt it would of been pleasant. and keeping someone in jail for the rest of their lives costs money, especially under that amount of security.

and thousands of country leaders throughout the world have done things that many people believe they should be put to death for, the simple reality is that George bush will never go through that.

Yes, I'm a bit too tired to dicuss the death penalty to be honest.

But that is the sad reality isn't it?

[Camila =)]

[Offspring] It's cool to hate [/Offspring]

[JesusOfSuburbia95]

Saddam Hussein killed people with his own bloody hands, raped many 13 year old girls like you, beheaded countless number of people.

He was a dictator, and he was inhumane.

Bush first of, didnt do any of that shit, with his own hands.

And secondly, Bush sent troops in to help save people.

Saddam killed people because he felt like it.

what she said

[**nobodylikesyou**]

Their music isnt that political at all. In fact I dont even know what the big deal was with american idiot.

American Idiot about mainstream media, Holiday, about the government. The rest of it was the story of a boy. I dont see how that is so political. (you cant count sam bayer and his video about WMUWSE.)

[outsider]

This thread has become ridiculous

[Dearlybeloved666*]

i think the music is more personal than anything

but i can see what they are trying to get across about the media and all the shit that is happening in general.

[kittenslayer]

I looooooooooooooovvvvveee Green Day cause the speak their mind, but I hate their politics, and suggestions?

Get fucked.

Their music isnt that political at all. In fact I dont even know what the big deal was with american idiot.

American Idiot about mainstream media, Holiday, about the government. The rest of it was the story of a boy. I dont see how that is so political. (you cant count sam bayer and his video about WMUWSE.)

If you can't see the political side of that song then you are even more of a dumb slut than I thought.

[**nobodylikesyou**]

If you can't see the political side of that song then you are even more of a dumb slut than I thought.

What song are you talking about? I already said the politicalness is in American Idiot and Holday.

But not much else in the album. And quit calling me names you nimrod.

[Ila Reto]

I looooooooooooooovvvvveee Green Day cause the speak their mind, but I hate their politics, and suggestions?

wow that's kinda hard to wrap ur brain around isn't it?

like, they're speaking their mind...which goes hand-in-hand with the whole politics thing at this point. Are you saying you don't agree with them politically or are you saying you don't like politics in general?

[armatageshanks]

Way to quote a post from one year and three months ago.

[Ila Reto]

What song are you talking about? I already said the politicalness is in American Idiot and Holday.

But not much else in the album. And quit calling me names you nimrod.

yes lets please stop with the name calling...what are we 12 years old?

there's no need to get into arguements over political stuff...we get enough of that comming from the news.

Way to quote a post from one year and three months ago.

me?