So... Where did Green Day go?

[CarnageXB]

they were in there teens and mid 20 back then the in there mid 30s now and they have kids so they matured they dont want to be rebelis punks all there lives they needed to grow up

wasnt there album warning the album that showed people that theve matured and want to mature?

[justcause]

I don't honestly think that little clip they did for the NRDC could've taken any longer than the Q&A they do for the Idiot Club, so it can't have taken them away from their work on the album too much.

Besides, artists work however they work - putting your nose to the grindstone 24/7 isn't necessarily going to produce the goods.

[katie]

where'd they go? no where.

what happened? they grew up

[TotalBasketCase13]

Oh boy. You sound like one of the people who flamed me for disliking the ad they did for NRDC.

It's not causing harm, but when you want a band to get off their asses and put out a new record, and they decide to do something that - to be completely realistic - is not going to do a damn thing, is frustrating.

I know for me, I want to hear them make music, not preach about oil.

Your opinion is your opinion, but it probably took them a full, oh say 30 minutes to put together that ad at MOST. I really don't think what they're doing is hindering the new record. Like, I doubt if they didn't do the ad, or the things with U2 that it'd be out any sooner. They had already said before this whole thing that they were gonna take their sweet-ass time on the new record.

I want the new cd to be out already just as much as anyone, but I still think what they're doing is good.

edit: or basically what justcause just said

[nak321]

Oh boy. You sound like one of the people who flamed me for disliking the ad they did for NRDC.

It's not causing harm, but when you want a band to get off their asses and put out a new record, and they decide to do something that - to be completely realistic - is not going to do a damn thing, is frustrating.

I know for me, I want to hear them make music, not preach about oil.

I agree with you on all of that.

[nessa1416]

Tre is imo just a silly middleaged man who should stop acting like a child. Whenever you see him, he has to draw attention to himself by putting on a silly face and stuff like that. If Green Day is striding to become such a serious band then its really misplaced imo.

I've reallly never thought of that.

Now that I do, I guess it's kind of true :/

[katie]

ok back to topic.

i thinkkk they matured.

[nessa1416]

ok back to topic.

i thinkkk they matured.

I didn't realize we were off topic...

[netty]

I think it has been cleared well in this discussion, Billie Joe is on his way to become a person with Bono problems. Or said in another way; A musician who envolves and makes himself a 'brand' in world politics, without really having any influence.

Tre is imo just a silly middleaged man who should stop acting like a child. Whenever you see him, he has to draw attention to himself by putting on a silly face and stuff like that. If Green Day is striding to become such a serious band then its really misplaced imo.

you know, people keep going on about this "Bono problem" or whatever. I think its a damn shame in a way. the guy is making a stand for the things he believes in and because he is in a hugely succesful band his is getting grief for it. if he did it while they had a hugely popular album, maybe people would take him more seriously. I know "how to" has sold a hell of a lot but I`m not under the impression that it was anywhere near a "best of the year" type of album. Bono has written some amazing songs in my opinion in the past.... maybe he hasnt written anything that connects with people who arent normally fans recently and thats why people are bitching becacue they think that his political stance is stopping him from writing. I think people assume that if song writers get involved in political causes, they are incapable of writing bloody good music.

as for Tre. well I can understand in a way why people just cant take him seriously. he has been the "dork" of the band for so long, without ever revealing any other side of him. apart from the horney, kinky side. he does appear to be the kind fo high energy person that would be very wearing to be around for too long.

but I`ll bet if you actually got to meet him, and spend enough time with him and gain his trust... you`d see that he isnt quite the two dimensional character that most fans see him as.

[nessa1416]

^

I get the impression that if I spent the day with Tre, I'd feel like I was hanging out with a child. I don't mean that in a rude way, he just seems very immature.

Maybe it's just me :/

[justcause]

I think it has been cleared well in this discussion, Billie Joe is on his way to become a person with Bono problems. Or said in another way; A musician who envolves and makes himself a 'brand' in world politics, without really having any influence.

Tre is imo just a silly middleaged man who should stop acting like a child. Whenever you see him, he has to draw attention to himself by putting on a silly face and stuff like that. If Green Day is striding to become such a serious band then its really misplaced imo.

Billie Joe and Bono are two different people. Bono's humanitarian work is rooted in his Christian beliefs - he felt he had the opportunity to use his celebrity and his communication skills to make a difference in the world that was greater than he could make with his music - in other words, he made a choice, and one that has caused much dissent with the rest of U2. He has said recently that he intends to cut back on this work and re-focus on the music - how easy he will find this to do is another matter.

Billie Joe made a clip for the NRDC and sent a letter - it hardly amounts to the same thing. As for speaking out on politics, he's entitled to express his opinions like anyone else.

I agree it can be a slippery slope for an artist to become involved in issues, but I think that Billie Joe's main drive is and always will be the music.

As for Tre, I think he's just being himself - it seems like people complain that Green Day don't goof around like they used to, then complain when they do!

[tnt.a]

Tre is imo just a silly middleaged man who should stop acting like a child. Whenever you see him, he has to draw attention to himself by putting on a silly face and stuff like that. If Green Day is striding to become such a serious band then its really misplaced imo.

ok maybe its not suitabale for his age but do you prefer him to sit like an statue ?

I feel what you said about roling stones

[starbucksfreak]

Uh oh...here we go again

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They haven't gone anywhere. They've just "matured".

exactly

plus i think they still have the same personality..which i personaly think is better

[zoki]

It's obvious that those of us who use to listen to Green Day felt disappointed. I knew this would be full of fans of the new Green Day, saying this is crazy, as they never knew the old and original Green Day because that was Green Days brand, being original. They lost that.

I for one wouldnt have any problems with them changing their attitude and lyrics if they changed band name - This is not Green Day and old fans will agree with me im sure?

How about learning a thing or two about this forum.

It is full of new and old fans. Old fans who love the new stuff, as well as the old. And new fans who love each Green Day era equally.

For me, as a new fan (and proud of it), it was not hard to learn about "old" Green Day (assuming there is such a thing).

Record stores are on every corner, you learn about old albums, you pick them up. Youtube is god's gift to the world. Pretty much every interview done is on there. So really, why do you, as an old fan, talk like you are superior to the new ones? Trust me, there are some of us who probably know more about Green Day than you do.

Pull your head out of your ass, and learn to use the search engine.

Welcome to GDC.

[Insomniac186]

We should all admire Green Day for having the forditude to speak out against the state of the world. No other mainstream artist has had the guts to do so. American Idiot is a beautiful album; well written both lyricaly and musicaly. This is becuase the sad state of the world really inspired Billie Joe, Mike, and Tre, and they really let the floodgates of creativity open.

To expect every Green Day album to sound exactly the same is ignorant. Same thing with pretty much every band (except maybe AC/DC, but thats ok). Green Day has never really put out the same album twice anyway. Every album has a different mood and inspiration. Some albums are fun and full of sing-along songs, some are slightly moody and abrasive. American Idiot is all of the above.

If any of you that are reading this are musicians or songwritiers, you know that you can make better music when something really inspires you. For those of you that aren't a songwriter or a musician, it's just common sense. American Idiot will go down in history as a classic... and there are not a whole lot of classics being put out these days.

As for calling Tre horrible, shame on you! You're obviously not a drummer! I AM though, can I can tell you that while Tre is defenetly not the best drummer, American Idiot is defenetly his best work. I always wanted to hear Tre do some really neat fills and different-than-usual beats. When I heard the John Bonham-esque fills in Jesus of Suburbia I screamed with joy! Tre's reputation is playing fast drum beats. In fact, he has basicaly set the standard for modern fast drum beats. There isn't one drummer from a band that has come out in the last 5 years who hasn't stolen a lick from him. His performances are full of intensity and energy. He has inspired thousands upon thousands of kids to take up drumming, including yours truly.

[Havoc]

As for Tre, I think he's just being himself - it seems like people complain that Green Day don't goof around like they used to, then complain when they do!

There is a fine line between goofing around and being silly and immature. Everyone is telling me Green Day has matured, but it seems to go the other way for him.

You have to match the band profile, if you fall way of the profile you will seem to fall out. Like you cant put eminem in Metallica, he would seem odd there and visa versa.

[tres_cool]

I am saying i dont like the 'change the world' thing yes, music should not be about politics. The same goes for U2

Well. I highly doubt that anyone between the ages of 13-25 is gonna pay attention to some old windbag they see on tv. would you? no. Their gonna stay and pay attention to what they like and music. If Green Day can raise awareness to help stop Global Warming and other things like that then power to them. Granite I dont either really like that "super hero" role their playing to much either. But if it works it works.

As for Tre. He's just being himself. Quit ragging on him. jesus its enough that you do it on the band. dont degrade and start complaing about Tre when hes been dont basically the same thing for 17 years.

[mmmcrazypills]

There is a fine line between goofing around and being silly and immature. Everyone is telling me Green Day has matured, but it seems to go the other way for him.

You have to match the band profile, if you fall way of the profile you will seem to fall out. Like you cant put eminem in Metallica, he would seem odd there and visa versa.

okay so you want brats or stiffs?

Why isn't there a middle.

[nessa1416]

Pull your head out of your ass, and learn to use the search engine.

Perhaps you should read this before you bitch.

[zoki]

^

I get the impression that if I spent the day with Tre, I'd feel like I was hanging out with a child. I don't mean that in a rude way, he just seems very immature.

Maybe it's just me :/

Yeah, but hey. We don't know what Tre acts like behind closed doors. People know how to have fun and act like children, and then switch gears and act like adults. I think Tre is one of those people.

[Anko]

It's obvious that those of us who use to listen to Green Day felt disappointed. I knew this would be full of fans of the new Green Day, saying this is crazy, as they never knew the old and original Green Day because that was Green Days brand, being original. They lost that.

I for one wouldnt have any problems with them changing their attitude and lyrics if they changed band name - This is not Green Day and old fans will agree with me im sure?

all right i'm a new fan and i have their older stuff

and the haven't changed one fuckin' bit if you don't

like the mature green day then don't come to a place

full of newer fans and shut up and don't listen to them

any more,they did a very punk thing with AI standing up

for what they believe in and they still have that "don't give a damn"

attitude when it comes to their music they are and always will be

Green Day forever and nothing can change that,they've grown up,

got married,and had kids,so sorry if it's not all about pot and masterbation

any more but you ether like 'em or you don't,so shut the fuck up,and deal

with the fact that they are abit changed from what they use to be.

oh and as to where they are,they live with me.

and welcome

[justcause]

There is a fine line between goofing around and being silly and immature. Everyone is telling me Green Day has matured, but it seems to go the other way for him.

You have to match the band profile, if you fall way of the profile you will seem to fall out. Like you cant put eminem in Metallica, he would seem odd there and visa versa.

I really don't see Tre as either silly or immature, and as for the band profile, Green Day has always been about three distinct individuals who share a vision.

[licensed_saint]

Being an ol' fan from the 90's, i simply have to ask; Where did Green Day go?

Back in the old days, the songs had lyrics that could give me goosebumps or simply make me rock around when listning to Green Day. Now... it's way diffrent.. Green Day has become such a political joke it's hard to take them seriously..

Back in the days they were punks, and punks that could play without caring what happend in the world and basicly made songs that people could relate to and still can. There was no political bs involved, it was all about living your life to the full!

In my honest opinion the only one keeping it real is Mike Dirnt. Billie Joe has become one of those musicians you can't take seriously anymore, and when it comes to Tre Cool... i simply dont have the words to describe it... horrible might come close.

It has become such an annoying thing, the political in rockmusic, and i never expected in my wildest dreams, that Green Day of all would use that to make their comeback. Green Day is way to awesome to do that and change so drasticly, and they didnt lost their touch with the music, they still seem to amaze me with it.. yet the attitude and lyrics is way off..

So i am asking the old fans... Where did Green Day go?

a huge part of punk is standing up for what you believe in and fighting for it, Green Day were upset by the war and how the leaders of America were handling it, as artists and punks they expressed their thoughts and feelings in their music

[nessa1416]

Yeah, but hey. We don't know what Tre acts like behind closed doors. People know how to have fun and act like children, and then switch gears and act like adults. I think Tre is one of those people.

Very true. But I guess we'll never know, right?

[randomness]

There is a fine line between goofing around and being silly and immature. Everyone is telling me Green Day has matured, but it seems to go the other way for him.

You have to match the band profile, if you fall way of the profile you will seem to fall out. Like you cant put eminem in Metallica, he would seem odd there and visa versa.

Tre has always been like that, it's just the way he is. he's a brilliant drummer so i don't really know what difference it makes