Green Day / NRDC Site now online

[penutt]

Just because you're a musician doesn't mean you can't care. I mean, believe it or not, people listen when their idols have something to say - and isn't getting the most attention you can get to get the message to people the most important thing??

Some people are just finding any excuse to point out that the band is 'selling out'.

What if GD do care? Ever considered that? Besides, music and poilitics have always been closely related. Don't try to stop it now.

now i can read it.

who the hell said you can't care if you are a musician. they can care. but they're a band. bands make music, not come out talking about the enviroment.

Green Day are sellouts, not becuase of this though. that's just my opinion. but she never said anything them selling out. you gotta stop jumping to conclusion.

no shit GD cares. do you think they would have made a comercial if they did'nt care? since when has music and politics been closely related? how the fuck is she gonna try and stop it?

and change your font color next time. i really don't see the problem of people changing them from the original(unlike all other members), but this one really does suck.

[Marie_GD]

"Make every day a GREEN day!"

Well, now people will once again believe that the name Green Day comes from Greenpeace(yes I've actually heard people say that)

It almost looks like a subliminal message! lol!

"Make every day a GREEN day!" like they're encouraging everyone to smoke pot the hole day(I KNOW it's not what they really mean)

What do you guys think Billie Mike and Tre thought when NRDC made this sentence??? Hilarious?

I don't know...sorry if this is a stupid post but it's just that it really intriged me that an enveiromental league would do that even though giving it another meaning almost everyone else knows what Green Day means...so it turned out really weird.

What do you think?

[zoki]

now i can read it.

who the hell said you can't care if you are a musician. they can care. but they're a band. bands make music, not come out talking about the enviroment.

Green Day are sellouts, not becuase of this though. that's just my opinion. but she never said anything them selling out. you gotta stop jumping to conclusion.

no shit GD cares. do you think they would have made a comercial if they did'nt care? since when has music and politics been closely related? how the fuck is she gonna try and stop it?

and change your font color next time. i really don't see the problem of people changing them from the original(unlike all other members), but this one really does suck.

You completely contradict yourself.

"who the hell said you can't care if you are a musician. they can care. but they're a band. bands make music, not come out talking about the enviroment."

---So they are allowed to care, just not about the environment? Even though it affects them personally.

[audyisername]

if its something that they believe in and care about of course they want others to help their cause so why not use their celebrity status for a good cause

Hi everyone!

I agree 100% with stjimmysgirl221. Also I am glad Green Day are using their celebrity status for something worthwhile, raising awareness over the fact that we MUST do everything we can to protect the only planet we know we can live on. At least Green Day, the band or the individual musicians, do not appear on gossip columns or on E! Entertainment Television news. This is positive, they're really role models, sensitive human beings, and above all, normal, caring husbands, parents, and citizens. What would it be like if all we read about Green Day is that they do drugs, are caught by police while recruiting a prostitute on some LA street, or being in jail for drunk driving? I think we must acknowledge the fact that Billie Joe, Mike and Tré have grown up to be responsible citizens, which does not mean they're "sell outs". This, my friends, is called ADULTHOOD. I feel they're doing great.

[penutt]

You completely contradict yourself.

"who the hell said you can't care if you are a musician. they can care. but they're a band. bands make music, not come out talking about the enviroment."

---So they are allowed to care, just not about the environment? Even though it affects them personally.

they can care about whatever they want, just not make a big deal about it.

[audyisername]

Their job is to make music, not to preach.

Who the ... is anyone to say what their job should be anyway? Who cares? They have worked very hard more than half their lives, and now can assume any role they want in society. It's great they've chosen to raise awareness of environmental issues. Have you already watched "The Uncomfortable Truth" movie/documentary? Watch it, and you won't ever again question Green Day's motives.

[e-dur]

now i can read it.

who the hell said you can't care if you are a musician. they can care. but they're a band. bands make music, not come out talking about the enviroment.

Green Day are sellouts, not becuase of this though. that's just my opinion. but she never said anything them selling out. you gotta stop jumping to conclusion.

no shit GD cares. do you think they would have made a comercial if they did'nt care? since when has music and politics been closely related? how the fuck is she gonna try and stop it?

and change your font color next time. i really don't see the problem of people changing them from the original(unlike all other members), but this one really does suck.

Bands make music, music is art, art is free and thus can deal with every topic imaginable!!!

I can actually understand people accusing them of selling out, they are signed by the major label warner, there's the idiot club, fucking lighters, shoes, make-up bags etc. with their faces printed on, but in the end things aren't that simple.

The guys have their origins in the punk scene, and as much as they sold out some of its original values, they strangely are still a part of it, connected through bands they like and honor since decades, friends and people around them, through the music they play themselves, which inevitably contains punk elements, no matter how clean they try to rinse it, through the way they act and finally also through their commitment for political topics.

And honestly, fucking hell... I somehow believe 'em!

I have no idea, how they can justify the sell out for themselves, but apparently they've learned to make compromises and still remain "clean" in their own peculiar way... somehow *fg*

Political topics always had a certain signifiance in punk music and especially the struggle for alternatives. If that hadn't be the case many zines would have never existed, many alternative youth centers wouldn't have opened, including Gilman, no alternative labels etc. The whole punk movement is in essence a struggle for areas of freedom and alternatives!!!

All these things originated from an attitude, that didn't want to accept the imposed facts and basically said "You know what, fuck you, we're doing it ourselves, then!" and that's exactly how I view the cooperation with NRDC. They try to oppose, to mobilize people, to make their voices heard and to change things. I don't call that sell out, but activism!

p.s. And by the way, I am hanging around with a lot of punks that call GD posers and accuse 'em of selling out but the campaign for New Orleans and the video statement, makes a lot of them rethink their point of view and show some respect for their commitment. And if even these guys think that way, it makes me wonder, what's going on with those who are still bringing up all those old stories.

[zoki]

they can care about whatever they want, just not make a big deal about it.

-Who are you to make that decision?

-Why would they do that? Either do something all the way, or don't do it at all. Simple as that. Especially if it's something as worldwide as our current environment problems.

[Parley]

-Who are you to make that decision?

-Why would they do that? Either do something all the way, or don't do it at all. Simple as that. Especially if it's something as worldwide as our current environment problems.

I still want to adopt you, zoki. It's so nice to see your intelligence back here.

[I Bet You Missed Me]

GREENDAY+NRDC is perfect for tree-huggers like myself

I'm loving this

[Anko]

yeah it is why is this a big deal i mean

come on their doing something that's for everyone

[St.A]

I think its great they´re doing this, but when there at it why not make something bigger that would get out to more people? Right now it's just and internet thing and those usually don't get very far ( When I sent "the letter to the president" from the greenday nrdc site I got a reply that basicly said no one will ever read it, so I don't have much hope for it geting in the hands of the president or any other goverment moron). And the site isn't even reachable anymore, when u go to greendaynrdc.com u get redirected to the new greenday.com. But your at least still able to send the letter.

[netty]

I think the reason you cant get onto the proper greendaynrdc site is because of server issues. I`m hoping to find something out about that soon.

as for your emails to the president not being read, obviously they wont. the idea behind that kind of thing is that if enough people send them, somebody along the line will start asking why so many people are sending them from the site and they will start wondering just how many of those are voters that they need to win over in the future. if enough people tell the government that they have to do something, or stop doing something...... in the end they will have to! for the simple reason, that if they dont, they wont stay in power for too long.

[ssnn]

OK,thanks netty

[e-dur]

I think the reason you cant get onto the proper greendaynrdc site is because of server issues. I`m hoping to find something out about that soon.

as for your emails to the president not being read, obviously they wont. the idea behind that kind of thing is that if enough people send them, somebody along the line will start asking why so many people are sending them from the site and they will start wondering just how many of those are voters that they need to win over in the future. if enough people tell the government that they have to do something, or stop doing something...... in the end they will have to! for the simple reason, that if they dont, they wont stay in power for too long.

Exactly!

[St.A]

I think the reason you cant get onto the proper greendaynrdc site is because of server issues. I`m hoping to find something out about that soon.

as for your emails to the president not being read, obviously they wont. the idea behind that kind of thing is that if enough people send them, somebody along the line will start asking why so many people are sending them from the site and they will start wondering just how many of those are voters that they need to win over in the future. if enough people tell the government that they have to do something, or stop doing something...... in the end they will have to! for the simple reason, that if they dont, they wont stay in power for too long.

I don't even think they will notice where the letters come from or that they are all the same, the respond I got is definetly an auto respond, but I do hope they will notice something.

PS.The Green Day+Nrdc site is availeble again

[netty]

yup. its amazing what you can do with a bloody mary isnt it!

and all the resonses from the white house or where ever those things go are going to be auto responses. those guys get more emails per day than green day would in a year. as shocking as that might sound. there is no other way to deal with that level of mail.

[greendaycrzy]

There's nothing wrong with wanting to save the environment, just they're musicians, not politicans or comercial actors. Seriously, do they wonder why people call them sell-outs?

i agree with u. they are musicians, there isnt anythign wrong with wanting to save the world but its annoying. i mean, i want their music, and idk..its annoying. its my opinion tho, soo..

[Parley]

i agree with u. they are musicians, there isnt anythign wrong with wanting to save the world but its annoying. i mean, i want their music, and idk..its annoying. its my opinion tho, soo..

You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't see how anyone in their right mind can object to famous people using their celebrity to try to better the world. They aren't increasing their fortunes--they're trying to improve the world for humanity.

I don't find this in any way "annoying."

[nessa1416]

I'm pretty sure that NRDC are paying Green Day a pretty penny for doing this. It's not like they were playing a show and said "I'd like to talk to you guys about something for a minute. We believe in this, and want to let you know what it's about." Obviously they believe in it, but I think NRDC is definetly getting something out of this that we don't know about.

Also, people are upset with me for saying that green day are sell-outs. Thats not really what I said. Well, it is, but I ment it in a different way. I totally think that they should stand up for what they believe in--everyone should, but it's just the way that they're going about it. "Make everyday a green day"...you can't tell me that that sounds like something Billie, Mike or Tre came up with (at least regarding NRDC).

[netty]

do you really think that the band would only do this if they were paid to do it?? that they wouldnt do this if they really believed it and do it for nothing? sorry but I find the idea that they are being paid for this totally astonishing!

[ssnn]

I'm pretty sure that NRDC are paying Green Day a pretty penny for doing this. It's not like they were playing a show and said "I'd like to talk to you guys about something for a minute. We believe in this, and want to let you know what it's about." Obviously they believe in it, but I think NRDC is definetly getting something out of this that we don't know about.

Also, people are upset with me for saying that green day are sell-outs. Thats not really what I said. Well, it is, but I ment it in a different way. I totally think that they should stand up for what they believe in--everyone should, but it's just the way that they're going about it. "Make everyday a green day"...you can't tell me that that sounds like something Billie, Mike or Tre came up with (at least regarding NRDC).

Wow,my head is spinning

You should apply for a job at FOX news - you´d do great

[Jillie Boe.]

I'm pretty sure that NRDC are paying Green Day a pretty penny for doing this. It's not like they were playing a show and said "I'd like to talk to you guys about something for a minute. We believe in this, and want to let you know what it's about." Obviously they believe in it, but I think NRDC is definetly getting something out of this that we don't know about.

Also, people are upset with me for saying that green day are sell-outs. Thats not really what I said. Well, it is, but I ment it in a different way. I totally think that they should stand up for what they believe in--everyone should, but it's just the way that they're going about it. "Make everyday a green day"...you can't tell me that that sounds like something Billie, Mike or Tre came up with (at least regarding NRDC).

I agree with you.

It would of been better if they at least spoke about environmental changes in all countries not just America though, i mean to encourage other kids to contact there leaders and make changes themselves. It isn't just America.

Anyway yeah I agree with you, I know if I was here more now, that would be something I would be saying.

[mechanicalman]

That site is fun.

[zoki]

That site is fun.

Yeah. I enjoyed reading everything on it.

And I'm sure that Green Day aren't getting paid for this. Most environmental sponsors don't. Do you really think that NRDC even has that money?

You guys are acting like this is something out of the blue. I'm not sure of the exact organizations, but GD advertised them at concerts. So this was in the making for a long time.

And nessa, I couldn't give a shit about your place on the green day sellout debate. Your ingnorance on this matter is why I continue to disagree with you. I mean, what is so wrong about a little slogan? Come on now. Green Day can't just go up there and wing it. They have to have some sort of script to make them seem more factual.

Organizations try to make saving the environment a more "fun" thing. Because let's face it, people find it annoying; they can't be bothered to cut back on their resources.