Green Day & U2 Performance

[spark in the night]

i would imagine just gd songs. i dont know where anyone would have gotten the idea that they had recorded 6 with u2

i dunno

they seem to be getting real friendly with U2

[samdarko]

^ Yeah, but they probably wouldn't do six whole songs with U2 for the new GD album. Maybe for something else? But prolly not...

[justcause]

i dunno

they seem to be getting real friendly with U2

Lol, reminds me of a photo of Billie Joe and Bono at the Grammies that I saved; the filename I gave it at the time was 'run, Billie, run!'

Still, I really can't imagine they'd be doing that - both bands are working on their own new albums.

Just the same - run, Billie, run !

[**nobodylikesyou**]

Lol, reminds me of a photo of Billie Joe and Bono at the Grammies that I saved; the filename I gave it at the time was 'run, Billie, run!'

Still, I really can't imagine they'd be doing that - both bands are working on their own new albums.

Just the same - run, Billie, run !

It is obvious from anything Billie has ever said about U2 that he has huge respect for them.

They have the same background, both bands started way young, and took it to the top, and on top of that they didn't implode. I don't think Billie needs to run. He has never compromised his work based on someone else, I doubt if he would now. What I don't understand is why you even say run billie run? I am not even being rude here, I really want to know why. Is something wrong with Bono and the boys in your opinion? If so what?They have been around a really long time. 26 yrs to be exact, many people feel about them like we do about GD. I don't, ( I did in the 80's) and I could have fell asleep at their concert 9 months ago. But I still respect them as a band and for all the good they do. (Even tho I don't care for any music they have done after 1990.) BTW, the grammies was where they started hanging out

[justcause]

It is obvious from anything Billie has ever said about U2 that he has huge respect for them.

They have the same background, both bands started way young, and took it to the top, and on top of that they didn't implode. I don't think Billie needs to run. He has never compromised his work based on someone else, I doubt if he would now. What I don't understand is why you even say run billie run? I am not even being rude here, I really want to know why. Is something wrong with Bono and the boys in your opinion? If so what?They have been around a really long time. 26 yrs to be exact, many people feel about them like we do about GD. I don't, ( I did in the 80's) and I could have fell asleep at their concert 9 months ago. But I still respect them as a band and for all the good they do. (Even tho I don't care for any music they have done after 1990.) BTW, the grammies was where they started hanging out

Well, I wasn't entirely serious, which was the reason for all the 'lol's, but 'every joke can have its truth', yeah?

I'd like to leave their charitable work out of this, I'm just talking in terms of their work as artists.

Billie Joe has cited U2 as an example of longevity in the rock industry, in terms of how he sees Green Day continuing into the future - and if you just think of it as an industry, well yeah, they've hung on in there and they put out a certain standard of product, they're proficient musicians, they don't hurt your ears, and there's still the occasional lyric that says something real.

I know where Billie Joe's coming from with this - rock and roll can still be seen as a young man's game, the product of a passionate time in your life when you're discovering and loving and striving; success takes some of the striving away, money insulates, relationships settle into a comfortable routine - what the fuck do you write about? Where's the fire?

It's a quandary for an artist - you want success, but that success can cut you off from the roots of your creativity - you have to somehow keep it real, and I think that Green Day are remarkable at having achieved this very thing, whereas U2 have not.

Billie Joe talks about the need to 'remain vital' - but I think that U2 have not remained vital, if they were, they would still be relevant and re-inventing themselves. I think they've been inside a comfort zone, artistically, for some time now, and maybe they know it themselves - in City of Blinding Lights, Bono asks 'what happened to the beauty I had inside of me?'

I think they've become ponderous and more about the stage image of a rock band - they look right, they can still party up there at times, but it's like they're resting on their laurels all the time, as if they have nothing to prove - well, for me, a band should keep on proving it, everytime they cut a disc or step on a stage.

Also, I don't think they push their boundaries and take chances - listening to the studio version of Saints Are Coming, with their new producer, I hear the same over-produced sound - insulation again. I would also agree with those who say that Bono, thru his activism, has compromised his voice as an artist - Billie Joe is free to go 'fuck you' to the politicians if he so desires, whereas Bono sits down with them in order to achieve his humanitarian aims, so his hands are tied when it comes to that kind of expression.

You may say he's chosen the better path there - it depends on whether you think what he had to offer as an artist outweighed what he can do in the world through his diplomacy, because that's what he is - a diplomat.

Billie Joe, by contrast, described himself as a terrorist - personally, I think that's the appropriate bias for an artist - artists should be on the outside, unfettered, free to give it all and say it all - that's what they do for us, and we need them to do it.

In my heart of hearts, do I believe that Billie Joe would allow himself to become like Bono? Naw!! I don't think his mind could be satisfied with that - his lyrics are all full of searching and questioning, and his music evolves all the time; I don't think he has a comfort zone, which kind of sux for him, but makes his art beautiful.

Talking of beautiful, I remember when U2 brought out that Beautiful Day as a single, their first in some years, I was going 'Jeez, all this time, and all you have to tell me is that the weather's nice, lol?' Ok, I know it's more than that, and there's the usual Biblical reference thrown in, but it's fairly lightweight just the same.

And I remember also how I felt when the opening riff of American Idiot broke Green Day's silence - it split the air open like thunder, it shook the ground - and I was going, 'Holy fuuucckk!!'

See, that's what I like in a band.

[ssnn]

I´m with the "run Billie run" comment - for me it´s not about disrespect to U2 or Bono,musically or otherwise (and if you read justcouse´s other posts - she got alot of respect for them) -it´s about the angeles (sp?) and the spin.They do have many of the same goals

BUT

in short:

Punk vs. the Pope

[justcause]

I´m with the "run Billie run" comment - for me it´s not about disrespect to U2 or Bono,musically or otherwise (and if you read justcouse´s other posts - she got alot of respect for them) -it´s about the angeles (sp?) and the spin.They do have many of the same goals

BUT

in short:

Punk vs. the Pope

I'm glad you noticed my other posts - U2 have had passion, and they have produced beautiful things in the past.

If I believed they were crap, would I care enough to write a long-ass post like that about them? Naw, I get pissed when I know a band has it in them to be great, and they don't go there anymore - and it's a hard place to go, where the real stuff comes from; as I've said to a correspondent here, it's easier for Bono to put bread on his own table or the tables of others in the world than it is to go to the place where you bring back bread for the soul.

His band mates complain all the time that he's never there when they want him - and yeah, one time he got called out of rehearsal because the Pope was on the phone!

I would also agree on Punk vs the Pope - a free mind can't live within dogma; but yeah, I think that Green Day and U2 have stuff in common, doesn't mean - hang on, gotta have a U2 line here, lol! -

"We're one, but we're not the same"

Just so long as Billie doesn't catch religion off them - I value that one light, flashing in the dark, very much!

[spark in the night]

run, Billie, run

hehe I like that

im not saying that I dont like their collaberation with U2

its just...I dont want this to fold into a new thing where they make all these songs together

Green Day is Green Day and U2 is U2

stick to your own side and once in a while come together for a cause

im just wondering if this is the start of something to come

[piratepalmer]

Just so long as Billie doesn't catch religion off them - I value that one light, flashing in the dark, very much!

Perish the thought

[Majkowa]

IMHO I think, music of U2 is good. I love Green Day, and bands, who make music similar to GD, but I like to listen something other, when I go to bed, or so...

Then i listen U2, and I gettin' relax... so... I like these music.

I'm not a rocker. I a emo-punk-rocker.. maybe xD Ok, ok... that's enough.

Cheers

[ssnn]

Thanks for your last tow posts,justcause - that was exactly what I meant.

I love how good you explain things and how patient you are - putting in all the time :sorcerer:

[justcause]

Perish the thought

That was a large element of my 'run, Billie, run!' thing - but I think, not the guy who wrote 'One of My Lies'!

Thanks for your last tow posts,justcause - that was exactly what I meant.

I love how good you explain things and how patient you are - putting in all the time :sorcerer:

Thanx - I just like to nail it good!

[**nobodylikesyou**]

I love how good you explain things and how patient you are - putting in all the time :sorcerer:

I agree, justcasue is such a good explainer. And in this case I am glad you explained it to me. I agree with most everything you say in this case. I haven't folloed U2 much except what made headlines since the 80's. So I had no idea that the band was having a problem with all that stuff. I think it is very hard as an artist to be creative if you are too busy and your mind is elsewhere. You just can't say ok I have from 3-5pm to be creative today. You have to put your heart and soul into what you are doing, like GD does, especially like they did with AI. Think of what they all went thru two of them lost their relationships and from what I have read, Billie's wasnt so great at that time either. If you don't have lots of hours a day for an extended period of time, you aren't gonna get much, (at least thats from the heart anyway) Maybe U2's hearts are elsewhere now. OR maybe Green Day is just what they needed to get their fire back.

I knew you respected U2 as I also have read all your prior posts.My comment about respecting U2 was more a general comment I was making there.

Wouldn't it be great to sit down with Billie and ask him how he feels (being one that HATED celebrities and now he has become a huge one and is in every magazine on every poster in every kids bedroom) about just how they have evolved into what they always hated. I think they have handled it well and haven't compromised their work. But I still always wonder what they think.

[justcause]

I agree, justcasue is such a good explainer. And in this case I am glad you explained it to me. I agree with most everything you say in this case. I haven't folloed U2 much except what made headlines since the 80's. So I had no idea that the band was having a problem with all that stuff. I think it is very hard as an artist to be creative if you are too busy and your mind is elsewhere. You just can't say ok I have from 3-5pm to be creative today. You have to put your heart and soul into what you are doing, like GD does, especially like they did with AI. Think of what they all went thru two of them lost their relationships and from what I have read, Billie's wasnt so great at that time either. If you don't have lots of hours a day for an extended period of time, you aren't gonna get much, (at least thats from the heart anyway) Maybe U2's hearts are elsewhere now. OR maybe Green Day is just what they needed to get their fire back.

I knew you respected U2 as I also have read all your prior posts.My comment about respecting U2 was more a general comment I was making there.

Wouldn't it be great to sit down with Billie and ask him how he feels (being one that HATED celebrities and now he has become a huge one and is in every magazine on every poster in every kids bedroom) about just how they have evolved into what they always hated. I think they have handled it well and haven't compromised their work. But I still always wonder what they think.

Well, for me it would be way beyond great to sit down with Billie and just go 'tell me everything!', but seeing as that opportunity has yet to present itself, all you get is my opinion - and very long posts, lol!

What I think is, he's a person who's always gonna say 'yes' to life, whatever it throws at him, and take opportunities just because he doesn't see why not, and he's open to them. Think of what he said about the whole Music Rising thing - that he just said yes straight away, without even telling the band!

So he finds himself in this position of huge fame now, he finds the choices he made have meant that he's now this rock star - so he's gonna be the best possible version of that, therefore he's looking at U2, who are some sort of example he can identify with somewhat.

Just that he's actually a whole lot better than U2 - he puts himself out there; he's gonna break the mold of what a rock star can be.

My opinion - to quote Bowie - nothing's gonna touch him in these golden years!

[netty]

you know, for once I`m going to go against one of your posts. "I hope he doesnt catch religion? I know a lot of people have little time and patience with people who have religious beliefs but that to me is offensive. yes, religion can be seriously damaging but it can also be a wonderful thing. its also not a contageous disease! Billie certainly seems to be somebody who knows his own mind. they obviously get on well with the U2 guys. U2 have never to my knowledge (and I`m talking as an ex-fan here) pushed their beliefs down anybody elses throats. so I highly doubt they will have even contemplated doing that with the green day guys. discussed it... quite possibly. but thats none of our business.

sorry but that comment bugged the hell out of me! :/

[justcause]

you know, for once I`m going to go against one of your posts. "I hope he doesnt catch religion? I know a lot of people have little time and patience with people who have religious beliefs but that to me is offensive. yes, religion can be seriously damaging but it can also be a wonderful thing. its also not a contageous disease! Billie certainly seems to be somebody who knows his own mind. they obviously get on well with the U2 guys. U2 have never to my knowledge (and I`m talking as an ex-fan here) pushed their beliefs down anybody elses throats. so I highly doubt they will have even contemplated doing that with the green day guys. discussed it... quite possibly. but thats none of our business.

sorry but that comment bugged the hell out of me! :/

Well, I wrote a long response to your post, but then I thought, holy fuck, I'm in the Katrina thread, talking about religion? So I deleted, lol! Jeez, I don't want to talk about religion here - and I was being facetious more than provocative - hence the smiley - but I'll respond, and try - try! - to make it brief.

Ok, my tone betrays a certain cynicism towards organized religion, and yeah, I feel that way, but I don't want to go into my beliefs at length here. Religion tells people what to think - that's my problem with it, and I feel entitiled to express the same attitude to it as I would for a political system or a philosophy, whatever.

If a person has actual faith, what I say can't hurt them!

As for Billie Joe, I did mention One of My Lies, and say the guy who wrote it wasn't likely to - er, catch religion ! I mean, he had his childhood beliefs, he has Jesus all over AI, but there's a sense of antipathy and betrayal rather than attraction there; this isn't to speculate on what goes on in his head, but to examine what he puts forward in his art.

U2!!Ok - I don't seriously believe that U2 would try and convert Green Day - even writing that sentence, it looks ludicrous, right?

Nor do I believe that U2 push their beliefs on people, but they're all over their songs - again, their right, but I get bored with Jesus turning up everywhere, Biblical references - With or Without You, Beautiful Day, off the top of my head - for me, it takes away a dimension from their music, because everything is gonna end up justifying their faith - I just don't like it slipped into my rock and roll like a sugar-coated pill.

As to what U2 and Green Day talked about, well, I didn't speculate, and if we were talking about people's personal lives, I'd go along with you; but when two major bands get together like this, the whole process is of interest - don't U2 have a diary of Abbey Road on their site? This is a big deal, kind of a landmark, certainly for Green Day - maybe even a turning-point, for all we know, and speculation is natural because who wouldn't love to be a fly on the wall when they got together? It's fascinating, whatever crossed between them, all these men, where they come from - and what they believe.

[mbk]

I haven't followed U2's music very closely (I respect them a great deal but I find their work kind of pompous and overwrought), but I recently read a book about Bono (Killing Bono by Neil McCormick) written by a childhood friend, who stayed friends with Bono over the years and is now a famous music critic. In it he reports their discussions about religion. McCormick is not religious and considers faith to be illusory and misleading, but he admires Bono's passion and sincerity about his beliefs. Bono believes that it all comes down to spirituality, that his spirtual belief is a kind of ultimate reason that is behind everything that he does, and that it gives his efforts purpose and meaning.

McCormick doesn't really buy that and neither do I. Even though Bono is sincere, any kind of meaning and a sense of purpose doesn't have to and shouldn't have to come from some ethereal beyond. That's what's so admirable about Billie Joe: he is brutally honest about seeing and accepting what's right in front of him and not pretending that it is or could be something else. It's a lot harder to find meaning and strength in the stupidity and harshness of real life, but Billie Joe does it beautifully and that's why listening to his work is so uplifting: because there's no sense of pretense or falseness, or overreaching.

But neither of them is preachy, and both share basic values about social justice, and they both seem to be really nice guys, so I'm not too worried about any clashes.

[justcause]

That's what's so admirable about Billie Joe: he is brutally honest about seeing and accepting what's right in front of him and not pretending that it is or could be something else.

And at the same time, he's a complete romantic!

As for Bono - I've dipped into 'Bono on Bono' - small doses are best! - and oh, jesus, his thoughts on religion! Like, he has so many of them, really developed! I always feel like spirituality should be instinctual, not something you argue like a lawyer!

He goes into all this stuff about how he loves the idea of the Sacrificial Lamb - Billie Joe, no-one ever died for his sins!

[**nobodylikesyou**]

I always feel like spirituality should be instinctual, not something you argue like a lawyer

^ I think people are entitled to their beliefs, and they certainly can be instinctual and still argued like a lawyer~ if someone asks. Just like any touchy subject matter is. If one feels strongly about something, they are gonna argue for or against it whatever it may be.

Religion tells people what to think

^That is a load of BS. Some denominations tell people what to believe. Don't lump all believers into a bullshit category like that. Shame on you. A person of faith is free to pick and choose whatever and however they want to believe.

a certain cynicism towards organized religion

^ Now that is certainly understandable. Not justified to lump anyone who has religion into a BS category tho.

Nor do I believe that U2 push their beliefs on people, but they're all over their songs - again, their right, but I get bored with Jesus turning up everywhere, Biblical references - With or Without You, Beautiful Day, off the top of my head - for me, it takes away a dimension from their music, because everything is gonna end up justifying their faith - I just don't like it slipped into my rock and roll like a sugar-coated pill

^Ok this one I have a problem with. You are fine with Billie Joe singing about his non religion beliefs, but not with Bono singing about religion. Even though it is clearly a part of him. That is about the dumbest thing I have read all day. Its all over their songs, because thats what he believes in. Just like Billies beliefs are all over his songs. Because you agree with one makes it ok, and you don't like religion, so now it shouldn't be pushed in songs and takes away from them as an artist? That is very closed minded thinking there. :down:

[justcause]

See, now this would be so much better if we were sitting somewhere with a couple of beers and you could see me laugh from time to time, and know that I'm cool with whatever it is that gets people thru their lives and thru the night. It would be flexible and back-and-forth, the way a conversation like this should be. And then eventually I'd go, fuck this, weren't we talking about the music, lol?! Try and be there, yeah? Take it in that spirit !

^ I think people are entitled to their beliefs, and they certainly can be instinctual and still argued like a lawyer~ if someone asks. Just like any touchy subject matter is. If one feels strongly about something, they are gonna argue for or against it whatever it may be.

People can believe in Teddy Bears from Mars if it makes them happy, good luck to them - so long as they don't decide the Teddy Bears want them to kill other people who don't believe, that is! And they can argue it anyway they wish either; Bono was arguing out his beliefs with himself, as it happens - that's the person he was seeking to convince. For me, faith should be instinctual - my pov!

Religion tells people what to think

^That is a load of BS. Some denominations tell people what to believe. Don't lump all believers into a bullshit category like that. Shame on you. A person of faith is free to pick and choose whatever and

however they want to believe.

Ow!! You pinched me - no more beer for you, lol!

I suppose I'm talking about dogmatic religion here, maybe I shouldv'e been more specific. As for shame - I don't do shame, guilt, blame - I left all of those pointless things behind a long time ago. Shameless, that's me!

a certain cynicism towards organized religion

^ Now that is certainly understandable. Not justified to lump anyone who has religion into a BS category tho.

And bullshit is the term you used for what I said - I never used it towards people who have religion.

Nor do I believe that U2 push their beliefs on people, but they're all over their songs - again, their right, but I get bored with Jesus turning up everywhere, Biblical references - With or Without You, Beautiful Day, off the top of my head - for me, it takes away a dimension from their music, because everything is gonna end up justifying their faith - I just don't like it slipped into my rock and roll like a sugar-coated pill

^Ok this one I have a problem with. You are fine with Billie Joe singing about his non religion beliefs, but not with Bono singing about religion. Even though it is clearly a part of him. That is about the dumbest thing I have read all day. Its all over their songs, because thats what he believes in. Just like Billies beliefs are all over his songs. Because you agree with one makes it ok, and you don't like religion so it shouldn't be pushed in songs and takes away from them as an artist? That is very closed minded thinking there. :down:

[jaded fashion victim]

This has turned into a discussion on religion but going back to a previous point:

I would also agree with those who say that Bono, thru his activism, has compromised his voice as an artist - Billie Joe is free to go 'fuck you' to the politicians if he so desires, whereas Bono sits down with them in order to achieve his humanitarian aims, so his hands are tied when it comes to that kind of expression.

You may say he's chosen the better path there - it depends on whether you think what he had to offer as an artist outweighed what he can do in the world through his diplomacy, because that's what he is - a diplomat.

Billie Joe, by contrast, described himself as a terrorist - personally, I think that's the appropriate bias for an artist - artists should be on the outside, unfettered, free to give it all and say it all - that's what they do for us, and we need them to do it.

In my heart of hearts, do I believe that Billie Joe would allow himself to become like Bono? Naw!! I don't think his mind could be satisfied with that - his lyrics are all full of searching and questioning, and his music evolves all the time; I don't think he has a comfort zone, which kind of sux for him, but makes his art beautiful.

Maybe Bono should give up music and be a full time diplomat, the guy who wrote Sunday Bloody Sunday is now referring to his father as the atomic bomb. I think his recent music is saying you can't do both. I remember him squirming during interviews where he could not, would not speak out against Iraq war. If you have a meeting with Bush in the oval office the following week that does put one in a bit of a bind. I'd like to think American Idiot was a kick in his ass, he practically apologized for taking the Best Group Grammy away from them in 05.

His dilemma is clear, he thinks he's saving lives and he's learned he has to play the dealer's hand to get in the game. I mean does anyone in power take the demands of Sean Penn seriously? Hell no but the artist in Bono needs to question who he's doing business with, his alliance with Jesse Helms bought him a direct line to Bush. Helms is a fairly innocuous old right-winger now but at one time to many in the art world he was the devil. Helms campaigned to abolish the National Endowment of the Arts because they funded a Robert Mapplethorpe exhibit. He then engaged in a witch hunt, targeting specific artists to have their grants revoked if he deemed their work controversial according to his conservative values. Ultimately the government became very cautious about who they were giving taxpayer's money to and only "safe" art was accepted so it resulted in a form of censorship because many artists depended on those grants to continue. I'm sure Bono believes the end justifies the means and if he's saving lives then maybe he's right but the position he's put himself in is why we won't get another Sunday Bloody Sunday.

Can you imagine Billie the "terrorist" who championed Pansy Division before it was fashionable photo-opping with Jesse Helms? Never!!!

He wasn't happy about the Kerry photo. He's absolutely right to avoid the politicians and if he wants to be subversive or make a statement, he's going to let his music do the talking. If he doesn't then he won't, that's the beauty of retaining your freedom as an artist. He'll never allow himself to become like Bono but at the same time it's not like Bono's a monster, I think he'd be damn interesting to talk to. If he started pontificating or giving me "Bono on Bono", I'd take it with a big grain of salt the way I'm sure Billie did who appeared to bond more strongly with the Edge, musician to musician.

I think every great artist needs that lack of comfort zone you referred to, there's nothing more boring than a content, well adjusted artist so I hope Billie never loses that internal questioning.

[justcause]

This has turned into a discussion on religion but going back to a previous point:

Maybe Bono should give up music and be a full time diplomat, the guy who wrote Sunday Bloody Sunday is now referring to his father as the atomic bomb. I think his recent music is saying you can't do both. I remember him squirming during interviews where he could not, would not speak out against Iraq war. If you have a meeting with Bush in the oval office the following week that does put one in a bit of a bind. I'd like to think American Idiot was a kick in his ass, he practically apologized for taking the Best Group Grammy away from them in 05.

His dilemma is clear, he thinks he's saving lives and he's learned he has to play the dealer's hand to get in the game. I mean does anyone in power take the demands of Sean Penn seriously? Hell no but the artist in Bono needs to question who he's doing business with, his alliance with Jesse Helms bought him a direct line to Bush. Helms is a fairly innocuous old right-winger now but at one time to many in the art world he was the devil. Helms campaigned to abolish the National Endowment of the Arts because they funded a Robert Mapplethorpe exhibit. He then engaged in a witch hunt, targeting specific artists to have their grants revoked if he deemed their work controversial according to his conservative values. Ultimately the government became very cautious about who they were giving taxpayer's money to and only "safe" art was accepted so it resulted in a form of censorship because many artists depended on those grants to continue. I'm sure Bono believes the end justifies the means and if he's saving lives then maybe he's right but the position he's put himself in is why we won't get another Sunday Bloody Sunday.

Can you imagine Billie the "terrorist" who championed Pansy Division before it was fashionable photo-opping with Jesse Helms? Never!!!

He wasn't happy about the Kerry photo. He's absolutely right to avoid the politicians and if he wants to be subversive or make a statement, he's going to let his music do the talking. If he doesn't then he won't, that's the beauty of retaining your freedom as an artist. He'll never allow himself to become like Bono but at the same time it's not like Bono's a monster, I think he'd be damn interesting to talk to. If he started pontificating or giving me "Bono on Bono", I'd take it with a big grain of salt the way I'm sure Billie did who appeared to bond more strongly with the Edge, musician to musician.

I think every great artist needs that lack of comfort zone you referred to, there's nothing more boring than a content, well adjusted artist so I hope Billie never loses that internal questioning.

Sunday Bloody Sunday - as I read that, I had a flashback to footage of Bono, back in the day; before he would perform that song, he would always shout 'this is not a rebel song', so that it would not be seen as an anti-British anthem during the Northern Ireland troubles, which the song relates to, in the powder-keg that was Ireland after the Bloody Sunday massacre.

What struck me was the image of Billie Joe shouting 'this is not anti-American, this is anti-war' before Holiday - more parallels than might seem apparent.

I wonder if Bono saw the ghost of who he used to be walk into Abbey Road last month, unrepentant, unfettered, a man who can rain fire on politicians and still give of himself for humanitarian causes, free as an artist and as a human being.

[ssnn]

This thread is like good wine - thanks to all

[suicidexmakeover]

i heard it on the radio yesterday haha

[woven_basketcase]

i can't wait to get the single. the live version is sweet.