masshysteria1 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 There are some very good points being made regarding the comments about Billie's appearance. But let me state that from a personal standpoint, making a comment about his appearance is in no way a criticism. I do love and admire BJ and Green Day, no matter what they look like. So when people say his hair is this or that or he looks less wrinkly (the botox thing) or he looks this or that, I don't necessarily take that as criticism, just observation. I'd adore Billie no matter what he looked like, Green Day is the most incredible band on earth for me, Billie is the most talented man on earth for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asshole3 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 dude it wuz awesome i want em 2 play it over again!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n o n a m e* Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 you can also hear the studio version on aol music here http://music.aol.com/artist/green-day/69310/main#thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaredrummer9 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 my religion teacher showed part of it to me and whatever i saw was amazing. they work together real well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netty Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 You people really do shock me sometimes. You're totally shallow and end up missing the point of everything that man does 99% of the time. If you're not moaning about the music he writes, how mainstream it is or how much he's changed for the worse you're bloody critisizing him ageing! It's pathetic. He isn't a young 20 year old punk anymore. He's a very, very busy father of two who is in his mid thirties. He's been on holiday and probably put on some weight. So bloody what?! When they were touring you were all moaning about how skinny he looked, seems the poor guy can't do anything right to please his 'fans' And oh dear, he grew his hair and he's starting to grow out of the 'pretty boy' look he adopted throughout american idiot. I shoudn't be suprised that some of you are maoaning about that, not finding him pretty enough anymore?! I think people start to forget that he is still a human being, still has feelings and still does the things we do. You should really stop placing him on a pedastool of invincibility because everytime he gets down from it you all start having shit fits and its highly annoying.totally agree! and I have to say.... the guy probably can be a total twat at times! everybody can! poor sod would no doubt get nose bleeds all the time if he actually lived on the pedastal a lot of fans put him on. sadly.... it doesnt matter how much we point out the fact that the guy is human... fans will just say "but thats why we llluurrrve him!!" fans see what they want to. I`d rather see the guy looking spotty, getting crabby with people and then getting up on stage and doing a bloody good gig! or even and bad gig but having a laugh about it than see him, or anybody else through rose tinted specs. but this is music.... this is fantasy land. this is where people leave the mundane behind. sadly this is where the wierdo/stalker/Addie bashers come from as well. good job they have such damned fine security guys! even if Bill does have one of those silly chin beard thingies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerz Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Oh no not one of those chin beard thingies.! I'm kidding!. First of all he is great human being. Their music DVD's ect. have helped through some very tough times , and helped me celebrate some very happy times. I have wanted to write them many times and thank them, but wonder if they would ever see the letter.I'm probably sounding dumb now sorry. P.S. He is like a fine wine, keeps getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anko Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 I agree with you 100%.I have a tendency to criticize people for even the most insignificant thing(s), not just Billie. However, I finally acknowledged that criticizing others [defects or decisions] is very wrong and I'm truly sorry if I've offended Billie in any way, because that definitely was not my intention.I'll be honest and say that I really don't give a damn about the decisions Billie makes because it's his life; he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it; it's definitely none of my concern. None of you shouldn't care about the decisions he makes either! Who cares if his teeth are fucked up or if his hair is too long or if he looks too old -- we should love Billie just the way he is! Only a true fan would do that.I've said this before and I'll say it again: there's more to Billie than his looks. He's an amazing guitarist/singer/songwriter, performer, father, husband, and friend! No matter what Billie does to himself physically or if he ages, he'll always be a gorgeous man to me, and that's why I love him with all my heart.You people really do shock me sometimes. You're totally shallow and end up missing the point of everything that man does 99% of the time. If you're not moaning about the music he writes, how mainstream it is or how much he's changed for the worse you're bloody critisizing him ageing! It's pathetic. He isn't a young 20 year old punk anymore. He's a very, very busy father of two who is in his mid thirties. He's been on holiday and probably put on some weight. So bloody what?! When they were touring you were all moaning about how skinny he looked, seems the poor guy can't do anything right to please his 'fans' And oh dear, he grew his hair and he's starting to grow out of the 'pretty boy' look he adopted throughout american idiot. I shoudn't be suprised that some of you are maoaning about that, not finding him pretty enough anymore?! I think people start to forget that he is still a human being, still has feelings and still does the things we do. You should really stop placing him on a pedastool of invincibility because everytime he gets down from it you all start having shit fits and its highly annoying.totally agree! and I have to say.... the guy probably can be a total twat at times! everybody can! poor sod would no doubt get nose bleeds all the time if he actually lived on the pedastal a lot of fans put him on. sadly.... it doesnt matter how much we point out the fact that the guy is human... fans will just say "but thats why we llluurrrve him!!" fans see what they want to. I`d rather see the guy looking spotty, getting crabby with people and then getting up on stage and doing a bloody good gig! or even and bad gig but having a laugh about it than see him, or anybody else through rose tinted specs. but this is music.... this is fantasy land. this is where people leave the mundane behind. sadly this is where the wierdo/stalker/Addie bashers come from as well. good job they have such damned fine security guys! even if Bill does have one of those silly chin beard thingies.i totally agree he is a fuckin' human being goddamnit the teeniesneed to stop critisizing the man for pretty much takin' a shit if you're a true fan that shouldn't matter to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerz Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 deletedsorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anko Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 First of all he is great human being. Their music DVD's ect. have helped through some very tough times , and helped me celebrate some very happy times. I have wanted to write them many times and thank them, but wonder if they would ever see the letter.I'm probably sounding dumb now sorry. P.S. He is like a fine wine, keeps getting better. same here and yes he isdeletedsorrywtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Eater Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Just curious Lotus Eater as to what you did not like about them? I have 2 yrs of observation as well, and yet my opinion is different. I personally did not like WMUWSE Video (especially the dialog in the middle of it-however all my friends with a loved one in Iraq or anywhere loved it)and while I liked Bullet in a Bible overall, there were some things I would have done differently. Such as not so ADDish (not so busy) and not a section on Sam, and not cutting out bringing people on stage and stuff like that. However, I thought American Idiot was great, and Holiday was very entertaining. JOS was probably what BJ, M & T wanted. It was fine.True--American Idiot is nicely done. And Holiday...I guess what Sam does well with these videos is capture the energy of the song. However, the concepts just don't do it for me. There's so much substance in those lyrics, and such a Big Message, but you don't really get any of that through the videos. I find them too polished, too...well, overproduced I suppose is the word. And that's what a lot of people criticized in JOS; it was supposed to be showing the "real" troubled youth, but it looked like a bunch of actors dressed up like catalogue punks. That song needed a raw, gritty video. The only thing I liked about it was the live footage woven into it through the television. And what it DIDN'T need was dialogue. Oh, the dialogue was God-awful. Just the fact that Sam started thinking that adding dialogue was somehow a higher form of video-making art, when it actually is regression. Music videos--and certain types of films--are supposed to be able to tell a story with images set to music, without dialogue. The simple truth is that Sam Bayer is just entirely too full of himself. I really don't see anything he's done that's pushing any envelope or that's particularly inspired. If anyone has an example of something groundbreaking he did, I'd love for you to point it out.What I really hate is that music videos have become obligatory for all singles released by major bands. I think a video should only be made if there is a concept good enough to justify making a video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light My Fire Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 billie joe looks rather maturewhat do the sing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 True--American Idiot is nicely done. And Holiday...I guess what Sam does well with these videos is capture the energy of the song. However, the concepts just don't do it for me. There's so much substance in those lyrics, and such a Big Message, but you don't really get any of that through the videos. I find them too polished, too...well, overproduced I suppose is the word. And that's what a lot of people criticized in JOS; it was supposed to be showing the "real" troubled youth, but it looked like a bunch of actors dressed up like catalogue punks. That song needed a raw, gritty video. The only thing I liked about it was the live footage woven into it through the television. And what it DIDN'T need was dialogue. Oh, the dialogue was God-awful. Just the fact that Sam started thinking that adding dialogue was somehow a higher form of video-making art, when it actually is regression. Music videos--and certain types of films--are supposed to be able to tell a story with images set to music, without dialogue. The simple truth is that Sam Bayer is just entirely too full of himself. I really don't see anything he's done that's pushing any envelope or that's particularly inspired. If anyone has an example of something groundbreaking he did, I'd love for you to point it out.What I really hate is that music videos have become obligatory for all singles released by major bands. I think a video should only be made if there is a concept good enough to justify making a video.I see exactly what you mean now. And I agree with alot of it. Thanks for the explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Eater Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Oh, you're welcome. Thanks for reading all that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netty Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 just a wee bit of info incase anybody has missed this. the single will have both the live and studio version on it when its released. not sure whats happening with the video now as the guys are aware that its been ripped and shared all over the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 16PaperLanterns Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 just a wee bit of info incase anybody has missed this. the single will have both the live and studio version on it when its released. not sure whats happening with the video now as the guys are aware that its been ripped and shared all over the internet.but the video isn't going to be the live one, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netty Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 dont have a clue. I could ask and see if he feels like answering me today or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsername 34 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 cool. but its been realy anoying me, i was reading comments for some of the green day & u2 vids on u2, and it was just full of people going on about how old billie joe looked, and i was like fuck u, cos its not his looks that matter anyway, as long as he keeps making great music then im happy, and i dont think he looks old anyway. he's still hot!! (hehe i used to be a teenie but ive moved on from that stage now)^ wow i doubt many people are gonna bother reading my comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netty Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 theres been enough people on these forums who have complained about how Billie looks at one time or another. ignore them. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that.one.called.whatshername Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 wtf about billie joe?? he dont look old and i think he looks better than he has done recently but who actually gives around here? i mean honestly the guys 34 and smokes, and i think therefore its amazing how actually young he looks considereng. crikey if my parents looked like that at that age itd be wow. pity we cant see if hes gone grey yet lol only joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 dont have a clue. I could ask and see if he feels like answering me today or not.Do ask, because if its not the live version, why would it matter if its been ripped and shared?. All those guys are smart and I am sure were aware that was a possiblity of that happening before it happened. I am sure they would plan accordingly..BTW, When you say he are you referring to BJ, Mike or Tre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anko Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 The main difference with the studio version, is the absence of the brass band. But the rest is very similar, Billie starts singing the snippet of 'House of the Rising Sun' with a sweet voice until the song explodes in insane proportions. I've uploaded a low-fi mp3 of the studio version so you can listen.http://download.yousendit.com/1A2048C43ECED679BTW, that's not any random brass line-up. It includes the New Birth Brass Band, the Rebirth Brass Band, Trombone Shorty, and others local greats. Edge attended to New Birth and Trombone Shorty gigs while touring, so he had a connection with them before Katrina disaster. Was a nice thing to invite these bands to join them in such a special event.So you have jazz, punk and pop all mixed together ... it should have been a nightmare, but the result was the most beautiful and epic thing I've heard in my life.same here and thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green all the way Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 just a wee bit of info incase anybody has missed this. the single will have both the live and studio version on it when its released. not sure whats happening with the video now as the guys are aware that its been ripped and shared all over the internet.sweet. and as for the ripp offs. they have to live with it. The performance mainly an excuse or insentive to donate, just a perk. there will always be those that actually want to donate. even those rips can be a benifit because it may actually get into the hands of someone that may want to donate and didn't know about it. (may have lived under a rock) as for the convo before this, WTF. is this entertainment tonight-holliwood today-extra-bla bla bla crowd? does it make people feel superior to pick out other's flaws? well, if you're so superior and advanced what are you doing with your life that's so important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spark in the night Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 this is still open?jeez haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX123456 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 whos that kid that billies playing with in all those pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 whos that kid that billies playing with in all those pictures?His sons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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