Parley Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 and Im pretty sure back when Blink was around they were WAY bigger than Green Day. At point during 98 till no one really cared for Green Days new stuff , but everyone was in love with Blink-182It's true. For a brief time, Blink was more popular with the public than Green Day was. Even when they were at the height of their popularity, however, no one who knows anything about music ever said that their music or their performing was better than Green Days.Short-lived popularity doesn't necessarily indicate quality. Please refer to Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys, Ashley Simpson, etc., etc. Someone stop me--I'm getting nauseated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watoosh Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 i just dont get why some band sounding slightly similar to another means they copied them. i only think blink 182 and green day sound similar enough to be categorized as the same genre of music. they're easy to tell apart and definatley have separate sounds and musical ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highground Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 It's true. For a brief time, Blink was more popular with the public than Green Day was. Even when they were at the height of their popularity, however, no one who knows anything about music ever said that their music or their performing was better than Green Days.Short-lived popularity doesn't necessarily indicate quality. Please refer to Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys, Ashley Simpson, etc., etc. Someone stop me--I'm getting nauseated. Uhmmm... Ashlee Simpson is in no way like blink except for Geffen. blink was around for 10 years. You have to be somewhat famous to accomplish that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sup Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Plus 44 is coming out soon thats going to be bad ass as well just like AVA , I think its safe to say more people care about Blink-182 than green day. And I hope Green Day goes back to they're old style and quit trying to be so political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Yes since Green Day and Blink-182 sound so much a like....what an idiot seriouslyYes, Blink tried very hard to sound like Green Day. Unfortunately for them, their songwriting and performing skills never came close. If you think that they did, you are the idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watoosh Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Plus 44 is coming out soon thats going to be bad ass as well just like AVA , I think its safe to say more people care about Blink-182 than green day. And I hope Green Day goes back to they're old style and quit trying to be so politicalyet another thing i don't understand...one or two damn songs based on politics does not make you a political band. green day aren't political, most of the new cd was just stupid songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highground Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Yes, Blink tried very hard to sound like Green Day. Unfortunately for them, their songwriting and performing skills never came close. If you think that they did, you are the idiot. Hmm. Yeah. Because while Green Day was writing about being stoned or rebelling, blink was writing about fucking dogs, sex, and bad relationships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sup Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Hmm. Yeah. Because while Green Day was writing about being stoned or rebelling, blink was writing about fucking dogs, sex, and bad relationships.yeah i guess he's right man blink tried so hard to sound like green day...haha ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watoosh Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 why can't blink 182 and green day be mentioned in the same sentence without it becoming a competition of who's the better band? why can't people just accept them as two different bands who came out around the same time with a somewhat similar sound and treat them as such? you dont have to like both of them, but that doesn't mean one is worse or copied the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sup Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Uhmmm... Ashlee Simpson is in no way like blink except for Geffen. blink was around for 10 years. You have to be somewhat famous to accomplish that.yes im sure that from 98 to the break up blink was way bigger than Green Day , Green Day was crap compared to them at the time. 98-05 hmm yeah man definately a short lived populartiy , If anything we can say green day is like that , all theyve really had are Dookie and American Idiot . Pretty soon green days popularity will fade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highground Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 why can't blink 182 and green day be mentioned in the same sentence without it becoming a competition of who's the better band? why can't people just accept them as two different bands who came out around the same time with a somewhat similar sound and treat them as such? you dont have to like both of them, but that doesn't mean one is worse or copied the other.THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
day1_9 Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 why can't blink 182 and green day be mentioned in the same sentence without it becoming a competition of who's the better band? why can't people just accept them as two different bands who came out around the same time with a somewhat similar sound and treat them as such? you dont have to like both of them, but that doesn't mean one is worse or copied the other.excactly thats why i dont bother to compare the two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watoosh Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 excactly thats why i dont bother to compare the twomy mind always tends to group mxpx and green day together more than blink 182 and green day, anyway. those two are still really different, but, yeah... i don't know what i'm getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catskill94 Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 my mind always tends to group mxpx and green day together more than blink 182 and green day, anyway. those two are still really different, but, yeah... i don't know what i'm getting at.lawnee puts sense back in everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_falcon Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 why can't blink 182 and green day be mentioned in the same sentence without it becoming a competition of who's the better band? why can't people just accept them as two different bands who came out around the same time with a somewhat similar sound and treat them as such? you dont have to like both of them, but that doesn't mean one is worse or copied the other.agreed. the bands have bashed eachother a bit. now fans of the bands are bashing eachother maniacally. meh. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc. Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 dude you know now people are gonna say well what about the fuck a dog in the ass song or fuck a pirate up the asswell who cares at least im happy knowing that Tom Delonge isnt looking like an idiot with eyeliner and platform shoes on and trying to act all political and stuff. Since when was green day all about being against the government? They definately took advantage of the war in Iraq , and two they took advantage of how kids are dressing these days. I remember one time i was in class and a couple of girls were like look at this picture of Billie joe he doesnt even look punk like he does now , and it was a picture of him back in the 90s. Green Day was pretty cool back then. Now they're just lame.but hes our idiot you idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stona Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Just because they play almost similar music, i DOESNT mean they are influenced by them.Tom hasnt heard AI, omg waaaah? a lot of people havnt, im not going to bash green days music but personally i dont like it. And have you heard Angels And Airwaves? try and find the green day influence in that, there is non, who cares? i think its a good thing.And yes, i think its stupid how green day take advantage. They went all political taking advantage of iraq, its stupid. Another thing that gets me is all the pointless merchandise GD make. Seriously, who needs a green day candle? Green day shoe laces? Haha. Im sure a lot of you would go out and buy it, just because its green day. Which is fair enough, but its stupid how they obviously make this crappy green day merchandise knowing they're going to extort money out of you guys for it. Atleast tom doesnt use his fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Quietus Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 As for him having his head up his ass, doesn't Billy Joe, as well? I remember an interview during the Pop Disaster tour on MTV where both of the bands were being interviewed. When the interview shifted to blink at the very beginning, and seemed like it was going to stay there, you should have seen the look on Green Day's face. They acted like they were the best fucking band ever, and that they deserved the entire show. What's more, in the Kerrang! interview with Green Day towards the end of the tour, Tre was bashing blink, saying he didn't care about them, what they thought, that Green Day were better than them, and it doesn't matter. blink never tried to compete with Green Day, Green Day tried to compete with blink. It was like they had something to prove, and when blink just tried to put on a show, Green Day tried to show them up. Did it disrupt blink's fan base? No.At least spell Billie's name right if you are going to diss him. But moving on to the more important points, a) you can't know what a band was thinking or interpret the look on their faces - it could've been a million things that made them have a look. And you know what, they pretty much are the best fucking band ever compared to Blink and it showed when the fans went completely wild for them. I believe the fans made the final judgement, and it's clear that Green Day deserved to upstage Blink simply because they put on a better show and people liked it. Besides, I doubt they went in their going, 'hey, let's upstage Blink!', it just happened. Seriously, you're sounding like a conspiracist, Green Day has much better things to do than be petty. And as for Tre bashing them - that's mean, I'll agree. But it was Tre, not Billie, so don't act like Billie needs to pull his head out of his cute little ass for something Tre did. And quite frankly, Tre had every right to speak his mind - it's one of GD's biggest things that makes them who they are, and I never want them to stop doing it.What pisses me off is that Green Day has not had much of a political stance AT ALL before American Idiot, then all of a sudden, that's all they are. They change completely. If you recall, Green Day used to just be about sitting back, smoking pot, masturbating, and just generally fucking the system. I loved Green Day back then. Then they tried to go mainstream, go with grain. You can claim that Tom Delonge is focused on war, too, but at least he has a fucking reason: His brother is serving as a Navy SEAL in Iraq. What's more, he's played over there, supporting the troops. Where's Billie Joe? Sitting over here, saying "Fuck Americans." He's too good to go over there. Maybe he's the one who should pull his head out of his ass. Tom's just excited. He's making the best of a crappy situation. blink was his life, and he's excited he's found something else take its place. You can't say that if Green Day broke up, you wouldn't want the same to happen. Hell, right now, Billie Joe compares himself to Jesus. (And I think their second guitarist should get more credit that he does)What.the.fuck? This is where your idiocy shows through - times change buddy. They can't go on singing about the same four things for the rest of your music career without running out of things to say. You gotta write about what you feel, not go with the status quo of "well I never wrote about anything political, so I guess I shouldn't now." Doesn't work that way - when times change and big shit happens, it's time to change your direction if you feel you have something to say. It might be a 180 turn for them, but it doesn't mean they can't do it. And wow, that's amazing - Billie never said fuck all Americans like you're trying to portray, get your facts straight. He syas fuck all Americans who just follow Bush's agenda blindly and send these men off to die. And seriously, if you think that going over to Iraq is the only way to support the troops, then that's disgraceful. The only way to support them is to go over and risk having your head blown off so you can play a couple songs for them? Quite frankly I couldn't care less if Tom's excited - it's him trying to deny things that he said in the past that itches me - whether it's about Green Day or Gwen Stefani - you don't try and change the story to suit your needs everytime someone shoves a mic in your face. To be honest, if GD did break up, I wouldn't want Billie to form another band. It's Green Day for a reason - because there's three awesome, irreplacable members. The end. Find me a quote where Billie compares himself to Jesus - back it up, or shut up. And about the guitarist, you obviously have no clue of anything - yes, Jason plays backup and solos live, but who's the one who WRITES and RECORDS those parts? Who's the one who pretty much played most of his parts and solos until AI? Who's the one who's writing not only the guitar parts but the lyrics? Why don't you get your head out of your ass, buddy. Unfortunately, I don't see Green Day in that lineup. And really, why is this pissing y'all off so much? He just said he didn't listen to the new album, because he doesn't like that kind of music anymore. C'mon.Thank God GD isn't in the lineup - they don't deserve to have their work brutally butchered. As to why it bothers me, please see above.Good day, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Watoosh Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 i think i know what the problem is!everyone seems to think green day was the first pop-punk band, so everyone else must have copied them, right? well, that's not true. remember the ramones? yeah... they were way before green day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LamBCHoP Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 its not like his band is any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee In My 409 Maker Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 I suddenly thought... (maybe someone already said it but I cant be arsed to read the whole thread) maybe he said that to get back at Green Day for what they said about Blink in Kerrang...? Or was it Rolling Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highground Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 At least spell Billie's name right if you are going to diss him.Why not loot at the other... 3 times I spelled it right? 3/4?But moving on to the more important points, a) you can't know what a band was thinking or interpret the look on their faces - it could've been a million things that made them have a look. And you know what, they pretty much are the best fucking band ever compared to Blink and it showed when the fans went completely wild for them. I believe the fans made the final judgement, and it's clear that Green Day deserved to upstage Blink simply because they put on a better show and people liked it. Besides, I doubt they went in their going, 'hey, let's upstage Blink!', it just happened.Not what thay say.source: http://www.greendayauthority.com/TheBand/a...angpage28rt.jpgWhat.the.fuck? This is where your idiocy shows through - times change buddy. They can't go on singing about the same four things for the rest of your music career without running out of things to say. You gotta write about what you feel, not go with the status quo of "well I never wrote about anything political, so I guess I shouldn't now." Doesn't work that way - when times change and big shit happens, it's time to change your direction if you feel you have something to say. It might be a 180 turn for them, but it doesn't mean they can't do it. And wow, that's amazing - Billie never said fuck all Americans like you're trying to portray, get your facts straight. He syas fuck all Americans who just follow Bush's agenda blindly and send these men off to die. And seriously, if you think that going over to Iraq is the only way to support the troops, then that's disgraceful. The only way to support them is to go over and risk having your head blown off so you can play a couple songs for them?No, going over to Europe, where they already have a bad view of the American state, and playing songs such as American Idiot is pretty much saying "Fuck America." (You can say things without actually saying them, you know what I mean?) As for his change - it just seems really weird that pretty much overnight, they change the style of their music, the way they look, and their overall message in general. One day, they're wearing jeans and a T-shirt, now they're wearing... well... scene kid clothes and eyeliner. It just really looks like Billie realised the band was dying, and they had to attract a bigger fan base, so they jumped on the Anti-American bandwagon.Quite frankly I couldn't care less if Tom's excited - it's him trying to deny things that he said in the past that itches me - whether it's about Green Day or Gwen Stefani - you don't try and change the story to suit your needs everytime someone shoves a mic in your face. To be honest, if GD did break up, I wouldn't want Billie to form another band. It's Green Day for a reason - because there's three awesome, irreplacable members. The end. Find me a quote where Billie compares himself to Jesus - back it up, or shut up. And about the guitarist, you obviously have no clue of anything - yes, Jason plays backup and solos live, but who's the one who WRITES and RECORDS those parts? Who's the one who pretty much played most of his parts and solos until AI? Who's the one who's writing not only the guitar parts but the lyrics? Why don't you get your head out of your ass, buddy. First - you can't say that Jesus of Suburbia doesn't have some air of narcissim to it (You can say it's about "Jimmy," but if taken out of context...). Nor him standing in crucifix pose on stage. Why are you being so defensive about the guitarist? Damn, all I said was I thought he should get more credit... You GD people are so easy to piss off. As for Tom, what I see is Mark saying that Green Day was an influence on them.His list of all-time favourite records:The Descendents - Milo Goes To CollegePropagandhi - Less Talk, More RockFugazi - Repeater+3 SongsNOFX - Punk In DrublicPennywise - Unknown RoadJimmy Eat World - Static PrevailsStiff Little Fingers - Inflammable MaterialFar - Water & SolutionsBeastie Boys - Pauls Botique Favourite bands:Menudo, The Descendants, NOFX, Far, Jimmy Eat World, Beastie Boys, Pennywise, Prophagandhi, Screeching Weasel, The Queers, NOFX, Bad Religion(These were all taken from interviews with him, mind you)He does say that Stiff Little Fingers was a big influence on them, and it's one of his all-time favourite bands, and SLF influenced Green Day, but that's pretty much playing 6 Degrees to Green Day.Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlnzZzZz Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 they should realise that they don't make such great music like greenday.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.J. Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Delonge is a fag. Geez. A real moron.If he went on tour with them, how could he have never heard the songs? Mooooron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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