Highground Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 ...Anyway, it is okay for people to change music likes and interests. But, to go ahead and say something like that, especially coming from someone who decided to go on tour with Green Day and was a big fan at one point, it is pretty sad that all of a sudden he doesn't like them anymore. Why, is it because he is jealous that Green Day is actually getting somewhere and his band broke up? And, how could you have never heard any AI... I mean, come on, so much of it has been played on the radio now. Mark is the only one who I can say I ever liked from Blink 182, though I was never a fan of them except for their hits.Okay, this is getting annoying. Shut the fuck up if you haven't read the past posts. It's been explained that he HAS heard SOME songs off of AI, but only the radio. I've said this several times. He said it in the interview. I've just said it again.And he "just doesn't like them anymore" because it's not the kind of music he's interested in. Does Green Day sound like U2 or Pink Floyyd? No. Therefore, he has no musical interest in them. Simple. I don't get why people keep posting the same damn things. To quote Tom once more, "It's something I can't get my head around."-editThese posts are starting to sound like a damn senate filibuster. I'm motioning for a cloture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherri Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 It's not really about whether or not he likes Green Day, it's about the influenced part. Blink was obviously influenced by Green Day and said so according to many sources. Whether Tom was influenced by them himself we don't know, he might have just went with the flow when he was with Mark and Travis. The thing is that if someone influenced you, it can't change just because your musical taste changed.. It's what got you into music and you can't just change your mind, it's out there and they got you started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highground Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 It's not really about whether or not he likes Green Day, it's about the influenced part. Blink was obviously influenced by Green Day and said so according to many sources. Whether Tom was influenced by them himself we don't know, he might have just went with the flow when he was with Mark and Travis. The thing is that if someone influenced you, it can't change just because your musical taste changed.. It's what got you into music and you can't just change your mind, it's out there and they got you started.And Tom never said that Green Day didn't influence them. He said "I'm inspired by Green Day's success, but their music doesn't really touch me. It's not my kind of music." As in, he's outgrown Green Day. He's inspired by the fact that they're successful, but he's just not in to them, anymore. It no longer "touches" him. He never said, "No, Green Day never influenced me." I imagine it could be taken like that, but then a lot of stuff Green Day does/says can be taken in different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncgal Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I liked Blink, thought they were fun and the time we saw them live, I thoughtit was a fun show, nothing amazing or anything, just a fun show.I just read what Tom said and it sounds like he respects Green Day, just notinto their music. On the Influenced, I don't think he ever said GD influenced him, just that itwas cool to see Green Day still being totally relevant..or something like that.I am one of the old fans on here and it's been fun watchingGreen Day grow with every album and experiment alongthe way. I think AI is some of their best work andand I could care less about their political views.I never considered AI to be that political ofa CD as a whole anyway, just good solid songs. I've heard a few songs off the Angels & Airways Cd and it's okay, nothingthat really moves me or anything. Someone asked about Mark, I think he and Travis have their own bandand I know Mark has a podcast on iTunes or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan. Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Blink completely ripped off Green Day in the 90's.If it weren't for Green Day, Blink would've never existed. It's quite obvious that GD influenced Blink; in fact, Green Day influenced almost all the bands in the pop punk genre after Dookie. So, I think Tom Delonge is a fucking asshole and he seriously needs to shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Lite 1 Mind Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Blink completely ripped off Green Day in the 90's.If it weren't for Green Day, Blink would've never existed. It's quite obvious that GD influenced Blink; in fact, Green Day influenced almost all the bands in the pop punk genre after Dookie. So, I think Tom Delonge is a fucking asshole and he seriously needs to shut up.Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathOrGlory Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Blink completely ripped off Green Day in the 90's.If it weren't for Green Day, Blink would've never existed. It's quite obvious that GD influenced Blink; in fact, Green Day influenced almost all the bands in the pop punk genre after Dookie. So, I think Tom Delonge is a fucking asshole and he seriously needs to shut up.you really don't know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan. Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 you really don't know what you're talking about.Believe me, I know what I'm talking about.No Green Day, no Blink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathOrGlory Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 well blink's been around since the early 90s, so i don't think it was green day that made them wanna start a band. (also meaning they didn't rip off their style, if they've both been playing pop/punk for a similar length of time) i'm not a blink fan at all, so i could be wrong, but it seems like they were more into the descendents than anything else. just because blink 182 didn't become famous until after green day had success, doesn't mean they copied their style or had been playing it for less time. the only part of your statement i'd somewhat agree with is that blink 182 may not have ever achieved the success they did if green day had not made pop/punk trendy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan. Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 well blink's been around since the early 90s, so i don't think it was green day that made them wanna start a band. (also meaning they didn't rip off their style, if they've both been playing pop/punk for a similar length of time) i'm not a blink fan at all, so i could be wrong, but it seems like they were more into the descendents than anything else. just because blink 182 didn't become famous until after green day had success, doesn't mean they copied their style or had been playing it for less time. the only part of your statement i'd somewhat agree with is that blink 182 may not have ever achieved the success they did if green day had not made pop/punk trendyGreen Day opened a path for Blink and all other pop/punk bands. Both Blink and Green Day might of been around in the early 90's, but some of Blink's early music sounds similar to Green Day's early music if you listen to it carefully; the only difference between their music at the time was that Green Day's was a million times better, because it was original. Currently, neither of them sound the same. Green Day is definitely not punk anymore and neither is Blink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Eater Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Some of you are acting like Green Day invented punk in the 90s. Do you not realize that Green Day came out of a scene, one that existed in other times and other places? Tom said that his guitar work is most influenced by the Descendents. Are you just gonna deny that bands like that even existed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan. Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Some of you are acting like Green Day invented punk in the 90s. Do you not realize that Green Day came out of a scene, one that existed in other times and other places? Tom said that his guitar work is most influenced by the Descendents. Are you just gonna deny that bands like that even existed?Green Day did not invent punk, they REDEFINED it. Blink followed it just like other pop/punk bands that came after Green Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Caroline Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Oh goddamnit it's just annoying to read all those posts about how Green Day invented punk or whatever some people on here are trying to say....... It's normal that bands influence each other and it needn't exactly be copying when two bands have similar sound!!! Although it's sometimes hard to tell the difference ...As for Tom Delonge, I'm not his big fan neither of Blink .I heard their songs and has their CD burned from friend but their music never touched me really... i used to listen to Green Day a lot but now I don't listen to them very often I guess I outgrown this kind of music a bit and that's completely alright. You can't just stand in one place and listen to the same songs for the whole of your life... Maybe that was what Tom was trying to say but anyway I don't like what he's saying about his new band because they really DON'T sound that good as he thinks. I downloaded their song and they all sound the same to me ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Freak 1 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 he probably had no idea wot his saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrock-chick Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 His probably up himself. At the pop disaster tour he really loved going with Green Day and was excited and all.Now his being the opposite since his new band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st.billie Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 People should calm down a little, he wasn't saying he hates GD or anything, he just said they don't touch him. That's fine, we can't get every single person on this planet to like GD.Only thing, he's obviously not very bright. And yeah he isn't the most modest guy either.Tom: I truly hope that the Arctic Monkeys do well because as far as punk rock goes, it really is different. I would much rather see a band like them succeed and do well then just the same old version of what I've been doing for the past decade.see Tom, you are the same old version of what someone else has been doing for the past 30 years. get real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catskill94 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 OH. BY THE WAY.Tom is just responding to what you fucks have been bitching him about. The whole, "GROW UP" thing.well guess what, he quit blink, made this shit, and his arrogance seems even more apparent when he's working on a serious project. You don't realize, this is how tom has ALWAYS BEEN. It's just a matter that now he's not all immature, it comes out differently. You people asked for it, you got it. And it's shit. Angels and airwaves, regardless of what tom says, is a "what the people want" band.Like him one way, like him the other way, or don't listen to either and stop fucking complaining and move the fuck on.Tom can only do one thing sucessfully, and that is act like a kid forever.writing shit about him, will not change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherri Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 On the Influenced, I don't think he ever said GD influenced him, just that itwas cool to see Green Day still being totally relevant..or something like that.Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highground Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Green Day did not invent punk, they REDEFINED it. Blink followed it just like other pop/punk bands that came after Green Day.So, any "punk" band after GD is a product of Green Day? That makes no sense. Without Green Day, blink may not have been as succesful, yes, but it's only because they opened the listener's ears, not because blink's ripping them off. People heard Green Day and thought, "Hey, this is pretty cool, I like this kinda music," and went to find more of it, sparking a trend. Because blink falls into that category, yes, the benefitted from Green Day, but, again, that doesn't mean that they derived any influence at all from them. If you live on Anartica and play the pan flute, market some CDs in America, and around the same time, another pan flute player makes it big in America, people are going to buy more of your CDs. It doesn't mean anything about your influences, just that you play the same kinda music.And regrettably, I agree with catskill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly. Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 You people seriously need to stop caring about what people say aboutGreen Day, every band gets it. They're just words. You have nothingelse to bitch about so you go and pick on Tom Delonge. Who cares whathe said. It hasn't killed anyone! Nobody is hurt. Seriously build abridge and get over it, its wasting time and effort bitching about plain and simple shit. Who cares if he's never heard American Idiot.I actually wish I had never bought American Idiot, it killed Green Dayfor me, I like them as they were before American Idiot.If some one sayssomething about Green Day, fucking ignore it. stop bitching. Your allsaying he's up himself, reading all of the posts in this thread makesme see this forum and its members differently. I won't be coming hereany more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLuckystarx Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I actually wish I had never bought American Idiot, it killed Green Dayfor me, I like them as they were before American Idiot.My god...what is so bad about American Idiot? You all act like it's a crime Green Day ever came out with that record. Oh yes, teenies followed when this album came out, doesn't mean we are all like that. It is a great album, I have no problems saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highground Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 My god...what is so bad about American Idiot? You all act like it's a crime Green Day ever came out with that record. Oh yes, teenies followed when this album came out, doesn't mean we are all like that. It is a great album, I have no problems saying that.From your sidebar, I'd say you were 13 (Being what the sidebar says). That would make you a "teenie", dear. See, the thing here is that you're too young to have been into Green Day during the Shenanigans era (which is the most recent). You would have been 9 when the CD came out, and sorry, but I don't know many 9-year-old punksters (correct me if I'm wrong). What would make more sense is you hearing about AI when you were 11/12, buying the CD, then buying their other stuff.-editAnd after looking at your profile, all of the music you listen to is very pop-culture. Not hope-inspiring in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
day1_9 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 i dont see why people keep saing blink 182 ripped off green day, its not like they are playing the excat same songs, just because they play in the same genre it dosnt mean one ripped off the other, and i also dont understand why people keep comparing these two, thats what the media dose so they can have a good story your not getting paid to do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 How on earth did this get to 17 pages ?It's almost as repetitive as the veggie thread.Seriously, dead horses and all that jazz guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highground Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 It's almost as repetitive as the veggie thread.lol That's what I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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