Watoosh Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 they should realise that they don't make such great music like greenday..wrong. you should realize that they make music you don't like. there's a difference.besides, what is it that makes music great to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viktumofcatch22 Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 they should realise that they don't make such great music like greenday..Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenDay_* Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 bullshit if green day did'nt start playing blink 182 would never become a band..Green Day opend the doors for blink and all of the punk bands we have today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfannkuche Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 he has turnt kinda stupid and convinced to hisself, since he quitted blink.... i love the music wich blink made and i like the music wich ava makes ....and im sure that our mr. delonge listened to the album ... but green day is at the moment ... too mainstream that the frontman of such a good band wich such high quality music can say that hes influenched by that creepy teen band....i mean ... what would their fans say? (if they had) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watoosh Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 bullshit if green day did'nt start playing blink 182 would never become a band..Green Day opend the doors for blink and all of the punk bands we have today.yeah! like the ramones! without green day, they never would have existed! neither would the sex pistols, the clash, the misfits, or operation ivy!please, don't speak unless you know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLuckystarx Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 As for Tom, what I see is Mark saying that Green Day was an influence on them.Then why was Tom on Influenced: Green Day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watoosh Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 okay people, this is rediculous.1) believe it or not, you can be influenced by green day and never hear the american idiot album.2) you can be influenced by a band and not be copying them.3) you can sound similar to another band without being influenced by them at all.4) you can change your musical tastes over time.5) you can have two bands play the same genre of music and not like both of them.6) and, last but not least, you can dislike a band and still talk honestly and reasonably about them without making up a ton of bullshit to try to convince everyone else of something rediculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfannkuche Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 please, don't speak unless you know what you're talking about.but you know everything about the world, about peoples thoughts and ABOUT MUSIC and who was influenced by whom and so on right? :bored: sure...this is sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highground Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Delonge is a fag. Geez. A real moron.If he went on tour with them, how could he have never heard the songs? Mooooron.Funny, I thought American Idiot was released 2 years after Pop Disaster.bullshit if green day did'nt start playing blink 182 would never become a band..Green Day opend the doors for blink and all of the punk bands we have today.You keep thinking that, m8. Green Day is the alpha and omega of pop-punk. Right.-editbut you know everything about the world, about peoples thoughts and ABOUT MUSIC and who was influenced by whom and so on right? :bored: sure...this is sad And in Anarchy's defense, that's all kind of obvious to someone who's listened to more than 3 bands in their entire life. All of the bands he listed were the first of their kind. Before Green Day. They undoubtedly had influence on Green Day, because there wasn't much other than them. (I would especially say Ramones and Op Ivy, because GD's covered their songs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcause Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 No, going over to Europe, where they already have a bad view of the American state, and playing songs such as American Idiot is pretty much saying "Fuck America." (You can say things without actually saying them, you know what I mean?)Green Day have been touring Europe since their earliest days, and they have always shown sensitivity and cultural awareness wherever they go, from Europe to Australia to Japan. Check out the Saitama performance of Scattered, see if you even recognize the melody the bumblebee plays - well, the audience do, and they're singing it right back at him. At Milton Keynes, they reference Monty Python. In Sydney, they're talking the local beer and The Living End. In Ireland, all the way back in the early nineties, Billie Joe is giving a sweet little blast of Danny Boy. I would say these guys have more of a worldview than the average politician, and when they sang American Idiot in Europe, it actually improved peoples' view of America - it showed there were free-thinking people with a different attitude than 'you're with us, or with the terrorists'. You can tell - even without Billie Joe announcing before every performance of 'Holiday' - that this isn't 'fuck America' - it's 'fuck idiots' like Bush, and like all the other crappy governments of the world. America doesn't have the monopoly on money-grabbing conservative regimes. As for his change - it just seems really weird that pretty much overnight, they change the style of their music, the way they look, and their overall message in general. One day, they're wearing jeans and a T-shirt, now they're wearing... well... scene kid clothes and eyeliner. It just really looks like Billie realised the band was dying, and they had to attract a bigger fan base, so they jumped on the Anti-American bandwagon.Ok, overnight ? But as you point out -Need I remind you of King for a Day? Catchy song."King for a day, princess by dawnKing for a day, in a leather thongKing for a day, princess by dawnJust wait till all the guys get a load of me"You got your notice on Nimrod!billie joe is such an idiot , if i remember correctly , he said he got up one day and said he should dress more like a man ...i think it was on a fuse interview ....well man that eyeliner sure makes him more of a man indeed.Is this really the way men in the 21st century judge each other? And if you have the complete definition of 'what it takes to be a man', please post it so 'all the guys' can line up and conform!I think Billie Joe's wanted his androgeny for a long time, and judging by the reactions of people, I'm not surprised it took him a while to get out there.And don't knock it until you've tried it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watoosh Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 but you know everything about the world, about peoples thoughts and ABOUT MUSIC and who was influenced by whom and so on right? :bored: sure...this is sad no, i don't know all that. i actually dont give a shit about all that. but i do know that it's impossible for a band to influence other bands that came before them.And in Anarchy's defense, that's all kind of obvious to someone who's listened to more than 3 bands in their entire life. All of the bands he listed were the first of their kind. Before Green Day. They undoubtedly had influence on Green Day, because there wasn't much other than them. (I would especially say Ramones and Op Ivy, because GD's covered their songs)i'm glad i'm not the only one who found that blaringly obvious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy blue Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Very mature.indeed.HELLO??? you're having a go at people just cause of their opinions! you should learn to accept people with different opinions than you have. and i myself know very well why i don't like tom, just to let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highground Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Green Day have been touring Europe since their earliest days, and they have always shown sensitivity and cultural awareness wherever they go, from Europe to Australia to Japan. Check out the Saitama performance of Scattered, see if you even recognize the melody the bumblebee plays - well, the audience do, and they're singing it right back at him. At Milton Keynes, they reference Monty Python. In Sydney, they're talking the local beer and The Living End. In Ireland, all the way back in the early nineties, Billie Joe is giving a sweet little blast of Danny Boy. I would say these guys have more of a worldview than the average politician, and when they sang American Idiot in Europe, it actually improved peoples' view of America - it showed there were free-thinking people with a different attitude than 'you're with us, or with the terrorists'. You can tell - even without Billie Joe announcing before every performance of 'Holiday' - that this isn't 'fuck America' - it's 'fuck idiots' like Bush, and like all the other crappy governments of the world. America doesn't have the monopoly on money-grabbing conservative regimes.I can see that, but I still think it seems pretty negative that americans are calling other americans idiots, like we can't even agree with ourselves.Ok, overnight ? But as you point out -You got your notice on Nimrod!Touché. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy blue Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 At least spell Billie's name right if you are going to diss him. But moving on to the more important points, a) you can't know what a band was thinking or interpret the look on their faces - it could've been a million things that made them have a look. And you know what, they pretty much are the best fucking band ever compared to Blink and it showed when the fans went completely wild for them. I believe the fans made the final judgement, and it's clear that Green Day deserved to upstage Blink simply because they put on a better show and people liked it. Besides, I doubt they went in their going, 'hey, let's upstage Blink!', it just happened. Seriously, you're sounding like a conspiracist, Green Day has much better things to do than be petty. And as for Tre bashing them - that's mean, I'll agree. But it was Tre, not Billie, so don't act like Billie needs to pull his head out of his cute little ass for something Tre did. And quite frankly, Tre had every right to speak his mind - it's one of GD's biggest things that makes them who they are, and I never want them to stop doing it.What.the.fuck? This is where your idiocy shows through - times change buddy. They can't go on singing about the same four things for the rest of your music career without running out of things to say. You gotta write about what you feel, not go with the status quo of "well I never wrote about anything political, so I guess I shouldn't now." Doesn't work that way - when times change and big shit happens, it's time to change your direction if you feel you have something to say. It might be a 180 turn for them, but it doesn't mean they can't do it. And wow, that's amazing - Billie never said fuck all Americans like you're trying to portray, get your facts straight. He syas fuck all Americans who just follow Bush's agenda blindly and send these men off to die. And seriously, if you think that going over to Iraq is the only way to support the troops, then that's disgraceful. The only way to support them is to go over and risk having your head blown off so you can play a couple songs for them? Quite frankly I couldn't care less if Tom's excited - it's him trying to deny things that he said in the past that itches me - whether it's about Green Day or Gwen Stefani - you don't try and change the story to suit your needs everytime someone shoves a mic in your face. To be honest, if GD did break up, I wouldn't want Billie to form another band. It's Green Day for a reason - because there's three awesome, irreplacable members. The end. Find me a quote where Billie compares himself to Jesus - back it up, or shut up. And about the guitarist, you obviously have no clue of anything - yes, Jason plays backup and solos live, but who's the one who WRITES and RECORDS those parts? Who's the one who pretty much played most of his parts and solos until AI? Who's the one who's writing not only the guitar parts but the lyrics? Why don't you get your head out of your ass, buddy. Thank God GD isn't in the lineup - they don't deserve to have their work brutally butchered. As to why it bothers me, please see above.Good day, sir.VERY WELL SAID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watoosh Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 indeed.HELLO??? you're having a go at people just cause of their opinions! you should learn to accept people with different opinions than you have. and i myself know very well why i don't like tom, just to let you know.psh, yeah, and everyone else who is just going on about how much better green day is than blink 182 are in the right? hypocrites... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicoleah Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Haha..what the hell? I think Tom is confusing himself. He hasn't heard the album, yet he has heard American Idiot(which is part of the album) on the radio?Erm...does Blink 182 really sound anything like Pink Floyd? Because I really couldn't imagine them..."Van Gogh cut his ear off because he couldn't express what he was trying to express." He cut his ear off because he was fucking insane. He expressed his feelings through his artwork.I think Tom believes Angels and Airwaves is God's gift to the world, and everything around now is shit. Maybe he doesn't like them because Green Day delves into political issues, and a lot of there music is that genuinely "whinny" kind of punk. He says he likes "happy" music. I find it odd that they would use Jerry Finn as their producer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura. Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 i think i know what the problem is!everyone seems to think green day was the first pop-punk band, so everyone else must have copied them, right? well, that's not true. remember the ramones? yeah... they were way before green day.i love it how you put everyone right, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Lite 1 Mind Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 This is why opinions suck... you can't say yours without someone going back at you for what you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brain Stew Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 If Tom and Billie Joe would be reading this they would find this thread very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy blue Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 psh, yeah, and everyone else who is just going on about how much better green day is than blink 182 are in the right? hypocrites...no they're not, but they didn't tell the blink fans on here to fuck off just cause they like blink better than green day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highground Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Haha..what the hell? I think Tom is confusing himself. He hasn't heard the album, yet he has heard American Idiot(which is part of the album) on the radio?He said he hadn't heard the album except for what was on the radio. Get it right.Erm...does Blink 182 really sound anything like Pink Floyd? Because I really couldn't imagine them...No, but he's trying to go in that direction with AvA."Van Gogh cut his ear off because he couldn't express what he was trying to express." He cut his ear off because he was fucking insane. He expressed his feelings through his artwork.No, he cut his ear off to express his love to his hooker-lover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicoleah Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 If Tom and Billie Joe would be reading this they would find this thread very sad.Yeah. I don't think either one of them gives a shit whether or not the other one likes their music. But honestly, Tom thinks he is going to change rock n' roll. So far, I think Green day have done a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy blue Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 This is why opinions suck... you can't say yours without someone going back at you for what you say.i agree... why is it so hard to accept that people have different opinions and just leave them having their own opinions? blink fans say blink are better and green day fans say green day are better. where's the point in this discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ~GhOsT~ Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 well hes a douchebag...i dont like blink182 that much :down: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicoleah Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 No, he cut his ear off to express his love to his hooker-lover....because he was insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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