ILoveTableArt Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 they mention him all the time, and talk about how american idiot was the best music video they've ever made because of sam bayer's directing, so i think they like himsure I'll agree with you. I don't know- I haven't read too much into this topic- nor do I really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan. Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 they appreciate him when it come to making videos of AI he did an excellent job.but in BIAB he flunked badly.but hes personality annoys me :down: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Obviously they appreciate his work a lot or they wouldn't have used him so many times. That's obvious. I think they like him personally, too. Because they joke about him doesn't mean they don't like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura. Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 He did good doing Smells Like Teen Spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcause Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Appreciate as in 'I appreciate that BIAB has so many jump cuts it gives people motion-sickness' ?It seems like they like him; seems like the fans don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudiecantfail Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I really didn't like that whole stunt he pulled in the Making Of American Idiot with the convertible spinning the tires. That was annnnoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light My Fire Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 hey i heard today that he's producing paris hiltons album.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImnotaDrIjustPlayOneOnTV Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 they like him, and he apparently worships himself, but yeah I don't care for him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aahhhh Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 hey i heard today that he's producing paris hiltons album.. thats rob cavallo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre_Is_Cool_409 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Honestly if they didn't like him do you really think they would keep him? I mean come on, think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LamBCHoP Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 i think they do appreciate his work, or they wouldnt keep asking him to make more videos. i do like most of his videos, but i didnt like the performance on wmuwse and biab. he also has an attitude problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeyBoy Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 How can they say that the AI videos would be nothing without him IF they didnt even see someone elses views on it?I hate the guy and he ruined BIAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beLIEve Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Blvd of Broken Dreams is a great video. Very original. It won many awards for them, so I'm sure they appreciate Sam for that.American Idiot is awesome too. On the show Influenc'd on Fuse, Green Day said that AI is the best video they've ever done.However, on The Making Of: Wake Me Up, they really didn't look too enthusiastic when they were watching part of the video.And as for the JOS video... I was kind of disappointed. I think it could've been better. It was a little cheesy at some parts. If they make AI into a movie, I hope they get someone else to direct it. PS- BIAB could've been better, too. Some of the angles they shot from were pretty bad. And it was kinda choppy at times... what with all the changes from black & white to color and switching camera angles so often. All of that was a bit distracting, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Eater Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Alright, so apparently I've had some pent-up rage about Sam Bayer's work that would only come through in a full-fledged critical review of every AI video, so here it is:In regards to them saying AI is the best video they've ever done, I think I might be able to agree. Although it's not the best in concept (that would have to be GSB or Walking Contradiction), it really is unique in the camera work and its simplicity. And it was nominated for a Grammy, so it did something right, right?So it's easy to see why the band hired him again after that video. But to me, after AI he sort of lost everything. Sure, BOBD looked nice, but it didn't mean anything. Same with Holiday. Even though I like that one slightly better because it looked like they were at least having fun, it still didn't mean anything. And that's really a shame, because the lyrics to that song are so powerful. The striking, controversial imagery is built right into the song, and while I'm not a proponent of always interpreting songs literally in video, it could have at least captured the same political ferocity. I think they really missed an opportunity with that one.Then came WMUWSE and JOS. Here, Bayer shifts gears and goes for the "meaningful" approach, but proves he can't accomplish this task without bloating songs out with 3+ extra minutes of dialogue. These videos have been praised by some for "pushing the envelope" with their epic length, but I think they deserve the opposite. A music video is all about creating a visual message that correlates with the song somehow, whether it expands on the original meaning of the song or just compliments the sound with visual effects. It shouldn't need dialogue. If you want to make something epic with acting and speaking that totally interrupts the song, make a short film. And while you're at it, write some decent dialogue.The unfortunate conclusion I'm reaching through all of this seems to be that Green Day has poor taste in music videos. It would comfort me to attribute this simply to apathy; maybe they don't care enough about the art of music videos to make an effort themselves to come up with interesting concepts because they feel like the whole process is just an obligation, something they have to do to keep up with the modern music market, something that's maybe fun to do for a day or two at a time but not really important to the band itself. Because we know that Green Day has never really been about music videos, but about music and playing live. And that's what they've focused on the most these past 2 years. Maybe that's why they put all their trust in Sam Bayer and let him run wild with their beloved songs. But then how, how could they let WMUWSE happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeyBoy Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 ^^^I agree fully Lotus eater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Eater Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Wow, you read that whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeyBoy Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 yeah and it made a lot of sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc. Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Yes, I think they do. If they didn't like the direction he was going with the early videos, I don't think they would have kept him to make the later ones, or even BIAB. And like the underbelly said before, they have mentioned many times that he is emotionally involved with thier album. And on the "making ofs"' they looked like they had fun, even when Sam was being an ass. And keeping in mind, he did have a whole segment in BIAB to himself, green day must think he's doing something right.uhhh 1 thing sam bayer has only been with gd since the making of ai vdeo he hasnt made any more with them before that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Caroline Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I think they wouldn't let him shoot their videos if they didn't appreciate his work,I mean there are other directors.... And videos from AI were all pretty good and succesful also, which can't be said of their former stuff... I don't know why everyone on here shits on him. I think that BIAB wasn't so bad at all... Or maybe it is a fashion now to shit on Sam Bayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varda Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 If they would not appreciate him they would not work with him..isn't that obvious.. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeyBoy Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I think they wouldn't let him shoot their videos if they didn't appreciate his work,I mean there are other directors.... And videos from AI were all pretty good and succesful also, which can't be said of their former stuff... I don't know why everyone on here shits on him. I think that BIAB wasn't so bad at all... Or maybe it is a fashion now to shit on Sam Bayer Yeah, something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Caroline Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Oh I see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nimrod** Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 yeah i think they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister of Grace Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 yeah i think they do.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratepalmer Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Personally I think they over-indulged him come the end. A bit of variety never hurt anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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