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The whole thing about calling them sellouts it's stupid, they haven't sold out, hopefully now that green day are going back to the studio the whole sell out shit will stop

Exactly I feel the same way!

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the same thing will problem happen to them that happens to basically every really popular band: they'll be really popular with one album, milk the shit out of it, rush their next album, it'll suck, people wont like it, they'll fade away.

not necessarily with the very next album, but you know what i mean. or the band will start to look at themselves as "gods" or "heroes" that can do know wrong and will expect everyone to love everything they release and then when the next album isn't HUGE, they start to fade.

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Fair enough.....I think he is a cock

Not exactly the terminology I would use, but I must agree with the sentiment (the second one, that is :laugh: )

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it's just there always in your face, it's kinda like when dookie first came out but ten times worse with ai.

Yeah and Im not trying to be rude or anything but Im getting tierd of going to the store and seeing Billies face on a magazine. Then I go home and there they are on tv. I didn't know that being in a band means that you have to be allover the magazines,tv and then make an album out of one of your best albums. I think that all this extra fame is getting to them.

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hold the phone....is it true that theirs green day stuff in clair's? THE claires? home of the 6 year old, future trendy bitchy girls of america? oh god, the end is near.

Tell me about it. My sister works there, and I went in there with her today and saw all the Green Day stuff, I was like "For the love of God, WHY?!"

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things just arent the same as they used to be. hard to explain.....but its not. even a few months ago it wasnt nearly like this. and this is well over a year after the album. this is just always bugging the piss outta me. its like, i know theres nothing i can do about it, and cant turn back time, and theyre gonna have this repulation forever...dont kid yourself, it aint gonna go away in 1 album, even if their fans do. and i know, i shouldnt give a shit what people say if i still like em, but.....just hard to explain.

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the movie. god, that will be horrible. also, the rehearsed shows live(repetive). really dumb videos(wmuwse). playing so many tv shows like big in 04 and billie joe acting like he's the most anti-american bush hating person all of a sudden. taking their old cd's off of lookout. i didn't like that at all. they just seemed very money hungry.

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here's where they went to far

A) jos music video

B) AI movie

C) adeline clothing

D) and pretty much jus trying to get even more noticed than before

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B) AI movie

But they haven't even done that yet. And you never know, it might be this great artistic achievment, like Pink Floyd's The Wall (which was brilliant, in my opinion). Plus, I really don't think they see this movie as another way to make money. They've had this idea pretty much since the beginning of releasing the album.

And the thing about the videos...I just think they trusted Sam Bayer too much. They didn't have their own ideas, and they apparently have no taste in videos. But it's not like the cheesey, drawn-out dialogue scenes in WMUWSE was their idea. At least I hope to God it wasn't.

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the same thing will problem happen to them that happens to basically every really popular band: they'll be really popular with one album, milk the shit out of it, rush their next album, it'll suck, people wont like it, they'll fade away.

not necessarily with the very next album, but you know what i mean. or the band will start to look at themselves as "gods" or "heroes" that can do know wrong and will expect everyone to love everything they release and then when the next album isn't HUGE, they start to fade.

But they've been saying in recent interviews that they DON'T want to rush the next album, they want to take as much time as they need. I think they're aware of exactly the thing you're talking about and want to avoid it.

And they already went through what you're talking about in the last sentence there, except they didn't fade. Dookie was HUGE, then they rushed Insomniac, and it wasn't as huge. But they didn't fade after that.

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and why did they tour with blink after they made it clear that they really dislike them? and that WASNT the record company.

To show the younger generation who the better band was! (and to gain some new younger fans)

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well said

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As long as they continue to make music that I like, all other arguments are moot.

They could play on Sesame Street for all I care.

and I'm pretty sure Billie put it best when he said something along the lines of how his critics were trying to advise his career, and he made of a point of saying that those people were not even in the band.

If they want to do all that stuff, then fine, continue making music I like, and they can do whatever they want. I'll still support them, and if they come to town I will be at the show.

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To show the younger generation who the better band was! (and to gain some new younger fans)

true :thumbsup:

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blvd of broken dreams and wake me up ruined it all. Cus i really didnt care about the whole sellout thing, cus they were different then all the trendy emo bands out there(fallout boy, hawthorne heights, alkeline trio, mcr, etc). and they always had that, but now its like....i look at all these people sigs and its all closeups of billie joe with black shit all over his face saying "the innocent can never last", and their logo is a bloody heart, and the adeline logo is some heart skull, just like alkeline trio. and my new worry is that maybe theyre starting to join the whole emo trend thing. i dont care if theyre popular for the pop punk theyve always made, but if they get popular for emo crap......i donno.

Fall Out Boy = pop-rock

Hawthorn Heights = bordering on emo, screamo

Alkaline Trio = rock, not even remotely emo

MCR = rock, gets caught up in the "emo" thing

Get a clue what emo is before you say shit about it, nothing green day has done is ever been even close to emo, and never will be. Green Day will always do rock, and thats all.

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Green Day is the most real band on the face of this earth and the media is just jealous they cant be like them

Green Day plays music that relates to all people around the world in some way and Billie writes stuff that he has gone through and puts it into song hoping it will reach out to some kid who has a life similar to Billie's.

If the media has a problem they can fucking suck balls.

Green Day will be around forever touching peoples lives with amazing music. Even if GD stops making more albums, they will live on forever and if the media thinks that just because they think they are sell outs or whatever, dosent mean their fans *in which case there are more of us than there are of them* are going to stop liking them.

I dont think Green Day has dragged out American Idiot too much. Green Day is one of the few bands who actually plays their old stuff. They know how to keep their fans intrested at shows because they dont just do their new stuff, they do the good hits as well which keeps us loving them even while the media puts all of us and green day down.

GD provides great music and we provide them with our support. The media can waste their breath because just because they think something, dosent mean GD will stop what they are doing.

B/S

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1,039 SOSH is the closest Green Day has been to Emo but I dunno if Emo was around then.

nothing green day has done is emo..

just because they wrote a lot of songs about love back then, doesnt make it emo... their are more characteristics to emo then just lyrics...

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Im not into alot of the music of the now. Green Day is one of the few so I am musically stupid of the 2000 music. I take emo as being emotional, so I did my best interpretation, sorry if I fuckered it up.

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hasnt emo been around since like 1979 or something like that.

there wasnt the oh-so trendy term for it... but the music was

but what people consider emo nowadays... hasnt been around so long, but thats not really emo, so it shouldnt even be counted...

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alright, so ive been a little hard on the guys in this topic. but i really do need to get over my obsesion, its pathetic, and its affecting my life. and just cus im not obsessed doesnt mean theyre not my favorite band. no theyre not emo, but wake me up and the eyeliner gives them the reputation of it. thats what pisses me off. and the last few years have been horrible for music. i like sum 41 tho, theyve already had 4 albums since the turn of the century.

but anyway, the only real reason ive started thinking about how they might be a new, unimproved, sold out green day was till i started goin on this forum. i was way happier before.

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God, people are so fucking stupid. Who are any of you to say that they did something wrong? You're not. It's not your band, it's theirs. And they can do whatever the fuck they want to with it. Who gave any of us the authority to question what they do? No one. And besides, it really dosn't matter because all this is in the past and nothing is changing it. It's like all of a sudden it's cool to hate Green Day. I bet anyone who says that they're sellouts is just saying that because it's the "cool" thing to say. Who fucking cares??? If you like the music, nothing else matters, so get over yourselves.

Heh you've touched on an important point kinda...

That being...we don't REALLY know Green Day's motives... We all perceive them differently - as "sellouts, punks, emos" anything... You all can draw little conclusions and opinions about..."how they released so many singles and are milking the album"...but whatever...thats how you percieved it... Is that "right" or "wrong" or does it make them "sell outs"?

Anyway for Green Day fans this thread makes me wonder :eyebrows: :whistling:

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