American Idiot 20th Anniversary Announcement + Holiday/BoBD Demo out Friday!

[Gonzalo17]

20 minutes ago, Dysfunco said:

I've read the booklet included with the box set today, and Favorite Son is "Produced by Green Day, Engineered by Chris Dugan and Reto Peter, and mixed by TIm James" -- just like Too Much Too Soon and Shoplifter.

In other words: what's been stated earlier, that Rob Cavallo and CLA would've been involved, doesn't seem to be the case.

In Apple music we can find every credits 

[Dysfunco]

11 minutes ago, Gonzalo17 said:

In Apple music we can find every credits 

Yeah, and according to the credits on Spotify Outsiders on Shenanigans (The Ramones cover) is written by Billie Joe, Mike Dirnt and Tré Cool. So I'm not sure if these sources is to trust in every case...  

Atleast it's written out the way I said at three different places in the 20th Anniversary box. So if it's a mistake --  it's a weird one.

[Nezirath270]

20 years of american idiot docu is the best green day docu since cuatro (sorry heart like a hand grenade docu but you're more of a music video than a documentary)

[frankoz]

American Idiot verse might stem from this song. Check out Fifteen, if you haven't already, loved them ever since I was introduced to them through a Green Day cover of one of their other songs 20+ years ago. Fifteen (before that Crimpshrine) were part of the Bay Area and Gilman Street scene.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-90sL7jp3bY

[nowshesgone]

5 minutes ago, frankoz said:

American Idiot verse might stem from this song. Check out Fifteen, if you haven't already, loved them ever since I was introduced to them through a Green Day cover of one of their other songs 20+ years ago. Fifteen (before that Crimpshrine) were part of the Bay Area and Gilman Street scene.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-90sL7jp3bY

i mean, even after they got 86'd green day did still care about the Gilman Street Scene (which is why i think IWBOTV wont make it onto insomniac 30th cuz surely they heard about Fang being a major part of a boycott of the Gilman back during 2016) so it wouldnt surprise me if some parts of C&V/AI were based off of bands from that scene

[Gonzalo17]

The Irving plaza have lower volume than the other discs? Or i had a bad downoad?

[That Dude]

This dude says he's that dude but that's like Fink saying he's Jillie Bow Legweak.   

[Mega Man]

13 hours ago, Saviour said:

Personally, I've long since thought that at some point during the C&V sessions the band were listening to the works of The Who and started experimenting with different movements within one song. The similarities to A Quick One Whilst He's Away are pretty evident here.

I don't think the fact that they covered the song during the 21CB era is a coincidence. 

No doubt, and the booklet also provides a long list of albums to listen to to further understand the process behind American Idiot.

The 21CB bonus tracks were fascinating in their purpose. It wasn't just influential artists to Green Day, but it also told an abridged version of the history of rock and roll up to that point. It literally started with Elvis' first record and ends shortly before Billie and Mike first start playing together with Social Distortion. I'd call it hubris for most bands to say their album is the next evolution in rock and roll, but 21st Century Breakdown was ambitious enough for it to be warranted.

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

I'm finally getting my box set on Saturday! Allegedly.  

[Nezirath270]

5 hours ago, Gonzalo17 said:

The Irving plaza have lower volume than the other discs? Or i had a bad downoad?

It is low volume. I purchased the album on itunes store

[Gonzalo17]

6 hours ago, Nezirath270 said:

It is low volume. I purchased the album on itunes store

Can't understand why this!

[oneeyedroll]

does anyone have the download link of the Bluray and DVD?

[Vintage Disciple]

11 hours ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

I'm finally getting my box set on Saturday! Allegedly.  

Me too!  Finally!

[nopride84]

22 hours ago, DookieLukie said:

Wasn’t that a new recording and not one from

Not in my opinion.  Listen to how different it sounds to the other songs and how billie sounds younger. Also sounds like tape.

[bastard of young]

Got the box set today, and I'm watching the doc now. Holy shit are the live songs amazing. Honestly, it looks and sounds better than BIAB did. If they have these songs on pro-shot, I wonder if they have the rest of the Warfield show as well. That would be fucking great to see one day.

[That Dude]

I was working on it, but they beat me to it. 

 

[Dysfunco]

On 10/30/2024 at 1:24 PM, nopride84 said:

We have heard billies home demo it's on welcome to my panic . 

Nah, sounds very much like Billies voice of today.

 

Like in this, but slightly different as it's not a live take in that sense.

 

[nopride84]

20 minutes ago, Dysfunco said:

Nah, sounds very much like Billies voice of today.

 

Like in this, but slightly different as it's not a live take in that sense.

 

Doesn't matter the voice though it def sound of billie from 2003.  The actual sound of the recording is different. Recorded different time different equipment different atmosphere than all the other recordings he did for welcome to my panic. The guitar isn't even mixed up separately from his voice it's obv 

[ThranaM]

It warms my heart to see how big of a role Homecoming is for the entire process around the album and how it ends up "forming" the album 
You get a feeling that the album is really about that song, in many ways.

The new documentary is fun! I think they used a little too much footage from HLAHG and BIAB, and too little from the Otis interview/other footages from the AI tour.

We Are The Champions must be from BIAB, that's a really nice "easter egg" - please please please release the whole thing, GD 🤩

 

[fatherotti]

7 hours ago, bastard of young said:

Got the box set today, and I'm watching the doc now. Holy shit are the live songs amazing. Honestly, it looks and sounds better than BIAB did. If they have these songs on pro-shot, I wonder if they have the rest of the Warfield show as well. That would be fucking great to see one day.

They have every show pro shot actually.  At least since the 90s I believe. When they signed to a major label. They’re recorded and stored for archival reasons. For documentaries and live home releases, and special releases such as this one… etc. So it’s not a surprise they have the entire Warfield show. In fact, if you find photos from that gig, you’ll notice there were plenty of cameras recording them off stage. Footage was bound to be released eventually.
 

If there was ever a Green Day gig that you wonder about being recorded, chances are pro shot footage exists. Now whether they choose to ever release it, depends on them and whatever management wants. Sometimes pro shot footage or audio is leaked by someone on the crew who intercepted it at the mixing table. Either a roadie or a tech. 
 

[Saviour]

The pre-chorus of Lowlife has been bothering me because of its familiarity, and it's just occured to me why... Sounds very similar to the bridge from that song BJA did with with Penelope Houston - The Angel and the Jerk. 

0:42 here for the uninitiated (of course you are) 

 

[Insomniac186]

On 10/30/2024 at 11:55 AM, Dysfunco said:

I've read the booklet included with the box set today, and Favorite Son is "Produced by Green Day, Engineered by Chris Dugan and Reto Peter, and mixed by TIm James" -- just like Too Much Too Soon and Shoplifter.

In other words: what's been stated earlier, that Rob Cavallo and CLA would've been involved, doesn't seem to be the case.

I was shocked when I read this in the credits area of the booklet. In the past, Favorite Son was (incorrectly) credited to Rob Cavallo. It makes sense now though, because production-wise, it sounds similar to the rest of the B-Sides that have the same credits. The only outlier now is Governator. I'd be willing to bet that Lights Out and Hearts Collide have the same credits as the majority of the others, but on the physical singles for KYE it only credits Chris Dugan for engineering those two and no other credits are listed.

 

As for Governator, I'd be willing to bet it's from the Money Money 2020 sessions, the evidence being the credits and the fact that Mike is on vocals and Billie's guitar playing is similar to most of the guitar work on Money Money 2020.

[nowshesgone]

1 hour ago, Insomniac186 said:

I was shocked when I read this in the credits area of the booklet. In the past, Favorite Son was (incorrectly) credited to Rob Cavallo. It makes sense now though, because production-wise, it sounds similar to the rest of the B-Sides that have the same credits. The only outlier now is Governator. I'd be willing to bet that Lights Out and Hearts Collide have the same credits as the majority of the others, but on the physical singles for KYE it only credits Chris Dugan for engineering those two and no other credits are listed.

 

As for Governator, I'd be willing to bet it's from the Money Money 2020 sessions, the evidence being the credits and the fact that Mike is on vocals and Billie's guitar playing is similar to most of the guitar work on Money Money 2020.

I feel like they ""beef""" that happened pre MM2020P2 was interested to happen during promotion of the re-release of MM2020 on reprise, which could prove that End Of the World is Roshambo as I could totally see Green Day make a press release saying that The Network "stole" an unfinished demo and that this new song would be the finished project.

 Govenator however, likely would have been recorded with Hammer of the God's and their cover of Teenagers From Mars as that would match up perfectly with the timeline

[Nezirath270]

It's been one week now. Been listening to those demo sessions more up to this day except for wake me up when september ends demo. The studio version of that song is a masterpiece.

[Robbie1039]

Finally watched the documentary!  I was talking to my dad throughout good chunks of it so I’ll definitely have to watch it again, but I enjoyed it a lot, specially the bits where they were just doing silly things on tour.   Also read the booklet, so now I can say I’ve fully digested this whole thing.