American Idiot 20th Anniversary Announcement + Holiday/BoBD Demo out Friday!

[Insomniac186]

5 minutes ago, Jankowski576 said:

They recorded the album twice, one at 880 with Chris Dugan and reto Peter and then again at ocean way with rob, but Rob was providing creative guidance and “producing” that whole time

That makes sense, so these are likely the tracks recorded at 880 then.

[billy1986]

Was there any explanation as to what the fallout between Rob and the band was about?

[alienlifeform]

Novacaine demo guitars sound the same as the final guitars on the record. Any chance they used the same tracks for the final version?

There are other things on the demos that seems to be the same, like American Idiot guitar intro, Radio Baghdad intro

[suffoKate]

2 hours ago, jengd said:

I have been avoiding this thread but I have to take it all back, Warner's box set just delivered and it's beautiful! Complete with a badge, pins and stickers and OMG the intro in the booklet from Rob Cavallo, will endeavour to transcribe and share it with you.

Do you collect the CDs or wax?

[Little Boy Named Booze]

Did anyone watch the new documentary? Is it any good?

[PhuzzyPhriend]

5 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

Did anyone watch the new documentary? Is it any good?

Where is it available? I want to see it and was just about to ask about this!

2 hours ago, Yosuke Hanamura said:

I did not expect half of Homecoming to be a total re-imagining. You can tell that they were still figuring out the direction for the song! 

Me neither! I love how the original one centered around centered around Billie, Mike, and Tre as individuals LOL. Cool to think about how it got reimagined to fit the album story. Also cool to hear Everybody's Breaking Down, which obviously got merged with Homecoming for the final version. Really fascinating stuff here.

[stories and songs]

Omg the alt version of AI is sooooo Warning-esque, very cool. Pulling out Everyone’s Breaking Down from the rest of Homecoming really highlighted for me how much that part sounds like Warning, too. I feel silly for never really noticing that before. Really loved this version of the song.

Lowlife is SO COOL? Wow, I love it. I’m hearing a lot of 21CB in it, so interesting. Chorus is also a lot like Strange Days. Love the “I just wanna be alright” line. 

Homecoming is hilarious. Love some of the weird instrumentation in it and the continued lines about who is in the studio cracked me up.

[Insomniac186]

1 hour ago, billy1986 said:

Was there any explanation as to what the fallout between Rob and the band was about?

I don't remember 100% but IIRC the band was ready to record 21CBD and Rob either turned them down because he was very in-demand at that time as a producer and was working with other artists or wouldn't accommodate them into his schedule between the other artists he was producing. I could be wrong though.

[Gonzalo17]

18 minutes ago, Insomniac186 said:

I don't remember 100% but IIRC the band was ready to record 21CBD and Rob either turned them down because he was very in-demand at that time as a producer and was working with other artists or wouldn't accommodate them into his schedule between the other artists he was producing. I could be wrong though.

I belive that was busy with my chemchal romance... Bad choice Rob!

[Insomniac186]

7 minutes ago, Gonzalo17 said:

I belive that was busy with my chemchal romance... Bad choice Rob!

That's what I remember but he was also working with Paramore around that time as well.

[Christian's Inferno!]

11 minutes ago, Gonzalo17 said:

I belive that was busy with my chemchal romance... Bad choice Rob!

Not really, MCR is a great band and The Black Parade was a fantastic album. Producers are allowed to work with other artists, you know.

[Jankowski576]

1 hour ago, alienlifeform said:

Novacaine demo guitars sound the same as the final guitars on the record. Any chance they used the same tracks for the final version?

There are other things on the demos that seems to be the same, like American Idiot guitar intro, Radio Baghdad intro

Definitely, if the demo recording is great no reason to reinvent the wheel

[okotavio]

any word on the documentary??

[Mato]

^^I'd like to know that as well. I can't believe it hasn't been uploaded somewhere yet 😔

[PhuzzyPhriend]

I don't have a hard and fast answer on this yet, but it seems people on Reddit are saying you have to buy the Blue-Ray that comes with the album? It doesn't seem to be available anywhere else.

[JReevz]

Did anyone else order from 3 2 1 Go Records and haven’t received anything (even a shipping notification) 

[Yosuke Hanamura]

I am shocked that the original film negatives for this music video were still usable.

 

[Tomcat20]

2 hours ago, Insomniac186 said:

I don't remember 100% but IIRC the band was ready to record 21CBD and Rob either turned them down because he was very in-demand at that time as a producer and was working with other artists or wouldn't accommodate them into his schedule between the other artists he was producing. I could be wrong though.

He became chief creative officer of Warner Music in 2009.

[PleasedToMeetMe]

Box set just arrived, going to be popping in the documentary shortly 🤘

[Undómiel]

I can't get my hands on mine til tomorrow. So excited! 

[StillBreathing]

46 minutes ago, PleasedToMeetMe said:

Box set just arrived, going to be popping in the documentary shortly 🤘

The suspense! 

[Gdfan2007]

5 hours ago, Insomniac186 said:

 

And yes, I do believe the "Green Day version" of When It's Time from the Broadway album is from the AI sessions because Rob Cavallo is credited as producer yet during that time he and the band had a falling out and were not on speaking terms, so there's no way he would have been there during the Broadway album recording sessions for one song and then skedaddled.

This is my Roman Empire 

[PleasedToMeetMe]

Sadly haven’t gotten to the documentary yet, watched the other videos first and holy shit. That BBC performance is epic! I got goosebumps 😂

[fatherotti]

More audiophile babble: Only available in 24bit 192khz from HDtracks....  Weird. Qobuz has it but only in 16/44. 😒

[bastard of young]

The AI Alternate version sounds like it was written/recorded before Billie Joe went to NY in late 02/early 03, with how different the lyrics were. I remember reading that he had written the song prior to the trip, and a lot of the songs on the album he ended up writing while walking around the city, so maybe that was the original version he wrote, and came up with the new lyrics/direction of the album while there. Idk. I'm probably very wrong on that.

Also, some of the songs sound like they might've been originally considered for Cigarettes and Valentines before getting scrapped and rewritten. Radio Baghdad, Lowlife, Novacaine, Everyone's Falling Down, Just Another Year, all sound like continuations from Warning. Just my opinion/theory, but probably wrong. Again.

Regardless, I'm loving the demos! They sound great. I need to order the physical album when I get the money.