Popular Post Dysfunco Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 (edited) Green Day interview (05:52) Or parts of it, at least. I wish more interviewers brought stuff like this up. I get the sense that Billie would give more straight forward answers than some might think, if someone actually asked. do you think we'll get to hear the Cigarettes & Valentines remnants in question when American Idiot 20th Anniversary Edition comes out? đ Edited January 21 by Dysfunco 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMostExpressivePrice Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 i never knew that! Â Could all "American Idiot" songs actually share origins with "Cigarettes And Valentines"? And the change from 2003 to 2004 to be very similar to the most recent case of "1972" becoming the recently released 14th Album? i do not think we will get answers soon. After the "Dookie" 30th anniversary album, people still have unanswered questions. So i doubt it. At least for the short future. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saviour Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I think theyâve said before that homecoming was the first song to be formed that would then go on to influence the ideas for the rest of the album. The lyrics for the most part are autobiographical (East 12th Street seems to be about BJAâs DUI, Rock and Roll Girlfriend is literally just Treâs life) and unconnected from the rest of the âstoryâ of the record. I think at some point it was reworked to incorporate some of the larger themes from the album. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 99th revolution Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Nobody likes you is also autobiographical, it was written because mike's bandmates left him at the studio, I'm not sure but it's the "everyone left you" lyric that just makes me think that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 Yet theyâre still sticking to that âit was stolenâ story (though Tre sounded a bit hesitant and cagey like he didnât know if they were going to spill the beans or not). Glad the interviewer knew to ask but I need one to straight out ask âCâmon, was it really stolen or did you just trash it and change gears?â 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Agreed, I wasnât sure how he was going to answer for a moment. Â 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, jengd said: Agreed, I wasnât sure how he was going to answer for a moment. Â I think they are toning the story down a bit now because anytime theyâve been asked more recently like here theyâve just kind of said it inexplicably âwent missingâ. Â Like whoops where did it go? I didnât see anything. Did you? đ 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 99th revolution Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Speaking of cigarettes and valentines, I feel like I have a partial impression on the songs on there based on that b side cd and the warning epk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stories and songs Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 45 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Yet theyâre still sticking to that âit was stolenâ story (though Tre sounded a bit hesitant and cagey like he didnât know if they were going to spill the beans or not). Glad the interviewer knew to ask but I need one to straight out ask âCâmon, was it really stolen or did you just trash it and change gears?â Watching them try to answer that question out of the blue was hilarious. Theyâre bad liars. đ 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petros Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I'll never in a million years believe the story that the tapes were stolen. Even back in 2005 there was an interview that they were asked about it and were making fun of the idea that it was stolen/act like they didn't want to answer the question. I found it funny that after all these years Billie Joe sits there with a straight face and says that the tapes were just stollen. It's so funny that this story is tied with the release of their best album though. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur_Rhuan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) I mean, Billie just gave the real answer for those who payed atention, right? Â "Maybe it was a sign it was not good enough" is just he saying to us they are not really satisfied with the album at the time. Â And i want to hear the prime homecoming so much! Hope one day we can hear the transformation of the ideas, the making off, i love that stuff. Edited January 21 by Arthur_Rhuan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 It would be cool if for the 20th anniversary rerelease of AI they include all the parts of Homecoming they said they wrote and didnât use. Wasnât the song like twenty minutes long at one point? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 7 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: It would be cool if for the 20th anniversary rerelease of AI they include all the parts of Homecoming they said they wrote and didnât use. Wasnât the song like twenty minutes long at one point? This is something I've never heard before but I really hope its true and we do see it one day. Kinda reminds me of the whole Taylor Swift "All Too Well (10min version), maybe we can bully Green Day into releasing it as well Ideally I'd love for them to release C&V on the 20th anniversary, even if they've recycled most of the songs at some point 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatherotti Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Lol Iâm sure the guys are now just playing along. We all know most of the songs from that album were eventually repackaged and released later (FBHT, The Network, Dos). They know we all know this.  My belief is simply that they didnât have faith in that album, so they started over and started recording a new one. Maybe Reprise came up with the idea of The Network and said âYou should release these songs but try something else?â. Obviously what ended up coming of it, AI, was much better and ended up become the definitive album of their career. There was a voicemail somewhere. I forgot where I heard it. May have been Reddit. That was recently uncovered. It had to have been from around 2003. Where Billie says âI have about twelve songs now for this new record. Six I like. The other six I donât know yetâŠ.â. He just sounded so unsure of what they were working on. Whether it was the label or the band themselves that made up âit was stolenâ. Weâll never know. But yeah no lol. You know how much lock and key that stuff is under? đ And how has it never made its way out by the thieves? Idk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMostExpressivePrice Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 8 hours ago, fatherotti said: Mdr, je suis sûr que les gars jouent maintenant le jeu. Nous savons tous que la plupart des chansons de cet album ont finalement été reconditionnées et publiées plus tard (FBHT, The Network, Dos). Ils savent que nous le savons tous. Potentially you mean "Uno!" and "Tré!" instead of "Dos!", because from what i have read "Oh Love", "Angel Blue", "Brutal Love" and "Amanda" seem to seek their origins from "Cigarettes And Valentines" project. "Dos!" did not have songs of this category. "Lazy Bones" sounded like mid-2000s Green Day, according to many fans, but it does not necessarily mean it was written during that period. i can hear parts of The Network being similar to that music period and probably you are right, although i do not think they are Green Day... (P.S. Foxboro Hot Tubes do not sound similar, from my few listens to the "S,D&R" album at least.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miko Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 8 hours ago, fatherotti said: Lol Iâm sure the guys are now just playing along. We all know most of the songs from that album were eventually repackaged and released later (FBHT, The Network, Dos). They know we all know this. This doesn't sound correct at all. Not a single Foxboro nor Dos song is coming from C&V sessions; Stop Drop and Roll was written when The Boys took a break from 21st Century Breakdown sessions and Dos! originates from same sessions and Trilogy sessions. I've seen the speculation that Walk Away on Tre! is the song usually connected to C&V but I doubt that being true due to song being unfinished (as in they clearly ran out of the ideas with the song) and I'd find it ridiculous if this was intended for C&V as it is. It doesn't sound anything that Green Day would be producing in early 2000s. Speaking of running out of ideas, I've always found it fascinating how Billie clearly ran out of the ideas with Let Yourself Go post-solo lyrics. We have 3 (or maybe even 4) different versions of that song with different set of lyrics (official, live version from Red 7 and Demolicious) and not a single one of them is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 99th revolution Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, TheMostExpressivePrice said: Potentially you mean "Uno!" and "Tré!" instead of "Dos!", because from what i have read "Oh Love", "Angel Blue", "Brutal Love" and "Amanda" seem to seek their origins from "Cigarettes And Valentines" project. "Dos!" did not have songs of this category. "Lazy Bones" sounded like mid-2000s Green Day, according to many fans, but it does not necessarily mean it was written during that period. i can hear parts of The Network being similar to that music period and probably you are right, although i do not think they are Green Day... (P.S. Foxboro Hot Tubes do not sound similar, from my few listens to the "S,D&R" album at least.) Oh love is not c&v, it was written 2011 as Billie said in a guitar world interview. Angel blue I doubt is c&v, they definitely haven't written a song named teenage blue. The last part of brutal love was written for c&v as dropout as seen in my cuatropost. Amanda was written when Billie met amanda, his ex, again probably during the trilogy era. The network had roshambo written for c&v as "end of the world" according to the hq bside cd photo I sent. And the pedestrian and broadway were both written for c&v.   1 hour ago, Miko said: This doesn't sound correct at all. Not a single Foxboro nor Dos song is coming from C&V sessions; Stop Drop and Roll was written when The Boys took a break from 21st Century Breakdown sessions and Dos! originates from same sessions and Trilogy sessions. I've seen the speculation that Walk Away on Tre! is the song usually connected to C&V but I doubt that being true due to song being unfinished (as in they clearly ran out of the ideas with the song) and I'd find it ridiculous if this was intended for C&V as it is. It doesn't sound anything that Green Day would be producing in early 2000s. Speaking of running out of ideas, I've always found it fascinating how Billie clearly ran out of the ideas with Let Yourself Go post-solo lyrics. We have 3 (or maybe even 4) different versions of that song with different set of lyrics (official, live version from Red 7 and Demolicious) and not a single one of them is good. >Not a single Foxboro song comes from c&v Based on the b-side cd by roecker, the pedestrian and broadway derive from the early 2000s era, broadway's case could be supported with a lyric mentioning lushotology (the network's "religion") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysfunco Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 (edited) 18 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: It would be cool if for the 20th anniversary rerelease of AI they include all the parts of Homecoming they said they wrote and didnât use. Wasnât the song like twenty minutes long at one point? In this recent interview the subject of Homecoming is brought up again, where Billie says that it was like a "mini opera" in it's initial form. Perhaps that kind of ties in with what you've heard about the length, that it was even longer at one point? Edited January 22 by Dysfunco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 99th revolution Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I'm guessing a quick one by you know who inspired homecoming and jos, don't forget bohemian rhapsody 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 11 minutes ago, The 99th revolution said: I'm guessing a quick one by you know who inspired homecoming and jos, don't forget bohemian rhapsody Oh we need a full official release of A Quick One so I can have it on Spotify 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 99th revolution Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 It's on yt uploaded by some unofficial account named Green Day Unofficial. That guy also uploaded the other 3 21cb-era covers, and pretty much every pre-ai bside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 7 minutes ago, The 99th revolution said: It's on yt uploaded by some unofficial account named Green Day Unofficial. That guy also uploaded the other 3 21cb-era covers, and pretty much every pre-ai bside. I know itâs on YouTube but Iâd like it on Spotify to add to my playlists 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 99th revolution Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Oh ok, sadly I doubt they'll even add the 4 covers into spotify ;( 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur_Rhuan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Did you dont have access to "A Quick One" on your spotify? Pretty sure i have this song on one of the versions of 21cb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Arthur_Rhuan said: Did you dont have access to "A Quick One" on your spotify? Pretty sure i have this song on one of the versions of 21cb Are you in the US? Â Thereâs only the original version of 21CB on there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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