Saviors - Album Discussion

[billy1986]

So are these figures good these days 

[That Dude]

I just played my Saviors record for the first time tonight.   I have the hot pink and black one and it sounds really good.  I started it on Suzie Chapstick and then flipped it over and listened to side A.   Because who needs a Corvette Summer or a Coma City?  Haha.    No, I like those.  I just didn't wanna hear them tonight.   The order I listened had a good flow. 

 

[That Dude]

Hopefully Billie's feeling about the Smashing Pumpkins have changed since the Insomniac days.  In the book Nobody Likes You, Billie got angry about the reception of the album, and talked a lot of smack about the Pumpkins.  

"Glorified Arena rockers, full of pomp but hollow inside"   dang.

 

[GreenDayJunkie86]

Spotify Numbers!

-The American Dream Is Killing Me: 13,709,057

-Look Ma, No Brains!: 9,220,318

-Bobby Sox: 6,543,654

-One Eyed Bastard: 9,387,361

-Dilemma: 12,437,273

-1981: 3,745,400

-Goodnight Adeline: 3,390,876

-Coma City: 2,627,637

-Corvette Summer: 2,753,094

-Suzie Chapstick: 3,033,896

-Strange Days Are Here to Stay: 2,650,863

-Living in the '20s: 2,707,809

-Father to a Son: 2,113,239

-Saviors: 2,163,324

-Fancy Sauce: 2,099,624

[PrimadonnaROCKS]

Is anyone interested in buying either a Brand new Hot Pink Galaxy limited to 2000 or a 

BRAND NEW! Green Day Saviors LP / 12" Black Ice w/ Hot Pink Splatter Color Vinyl also limited edition vinyl?

Willing to sell both to the best offer I get in the next 24 hours and can send later today if you venmo me. Willing to let these two go cheap! email me at matthewburdman27@gmail.com or message me on here and we can talk. Thank you! -Matt from San Diego

[Hermione]

12 hours ago, That Dude said:

Hopefully Billie's feeling about the Smashing Pumpkins have changed since the Insomniac days.  In the book Nobody Likes You, Billie got angry about the reception of the album, and talked a lot of smack about the Pumpkins.  

"Glorified Arena rockers, full of pomp but hollow inside"   dang.

 

I know! I giggled when it said Smashing Pumpkins were supporting because they used to talk tons of shit about them in the 90s lmao. I recently listened to a folder of random old audio interviews I found and they made negative comments about them in three different ones including one with Ben Weasel where he and GD agreed on them as a band to be eliminated from existence. They thought they were boring and pretentious. But to be fair they did used to talk shit about virtually every band out there that wasn't a small/unknown one from 1990s to early 2000s.

Edit: Nice discussion from a 1996 interview where they praise the music but instead talk shit about them as people

Quote

ARMSTRONG I've talked a lot of shit about Smashing Pumpkins, but I think the guitar sound on "1979" is
really good, and so is the song itself.
DIRNT I think us talking shit about Smashing Pumpkins is more just making fun of how pathetic those guys are.
Especially Billy Corgan. I think it would have been better if he hadn't made such a big issue of his guitar
playing right when they put out their first album, like "I played most of the guitar on this album. Any hot licks
you hear, that's me, not James [ha]."

This interview also contains this gem from Billie on the subject of GD not being grunge/shoegazers (not about Pumpkins but hilarious)

Quote

GW You guys were a breath of fresh air after grunge. You helped bring tight, concise songs back to rock.
ARMSTRONG Well, we write rock and roll music. We're a rock and roll band. We're extroverted and
exhibitionist. We're not shoe gazers no way. We're demented. Up on stage, I'm gonna take my fuckin' clothes
off and wiggle my little dick at everybody. I'm gonna be totally obnoxious and rude and spit in the eye of every
fucking heavy grunge band that ever came out.

Half the interview is them shit talking various acts lol

https://punkrocker.org.uk/punkinterviews/greenday.html

[pacejunkie punk]

Question is, is any journalist going to do their homework and call them out on it when they interview them for the tour? 😄

I remember when Billie got called out on Andy Cohen’s show for things he said about Bon Jovi and he admitted he used to be a dick 😂

[The Grohl]

1 minute ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Question is, is any journalist going to do their homework and call them out on it when they interview them for the tour? 😄

I remember when Billie got called out on Andy Cohen’s show for things he said about Bon Jovi and he admitted he used to be a dick 😂

I'm still waiting for an interviewer to ask them about Saviors starting life as 1972. 

[Hermione]

Just now, pacejunkie punk said:

Question is, is any journalist going to do their homework and call them out on it when they interview them for the tour? 😄

The sad thing is when I googled Green Day and Smashing Pumpkins the only thing that came up the other way was Billy Corgan giving them a lot of praise in the 00s. Hopefully the band doesn't know lol. But I guess they were a lot younger then and they're all old enough to know that opinions and attitudes change.

[DookieLukie]

Why does 1981 have so many streams compared to the other non-singles?

[Montclare]

3 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Why does 1981 have so many streams compared to the other non-singles?

That number is wrong.  Dilemma's number was posted twice.

[Christian's Inferno!]

1981 does have more streams that the other non-singles though, probably just because it's the first non-single you hear on the album and maybe the fact that it was the first song we heard for the album (live)

You can look for the streams each Green Day song and album is getting here
Songs - https://kworb.net/spotify/artist/7oPftvlwr6VrsViSDV7fJY_songs.html
Albums - https://kworb.net/spotify/artist/7oPftvlwr6VrsViSDV7fJY_albums.html

There's a lot of interesting things to take from these figures. Saviors (the album) is getting 296k daily streams now, less daily streams than AI/Dookie/Nimrod/21CB/Insomniac but still much more than the last few studio albums, though in the coming months/years, that figure will continue to fall. I think Saviors will continue to perform better than FOAM and the trilogy in terms of streaming however. Revolution Radio has a lot of total streams, being their 5th most streamed studio album, but is gaining much less streams than all their studio albums from 1994-2009. Father of All has more streams than Dos & Tré but less than Uno. I wouldn't be surprised if Dos starts gaining streams at a faster rate than FOAM at some point. Stray Heart is gaining daily streams faster than any other trilogy song, even more than Oh Love which is the hit of that era and has the most total streams. Considering Oh Love can be heard on both Uno and God's Favorite Band, this is surprising. Last Night on Earth is gaining a lot of streams, currently no. 12 in terms of daily streams, even though it was never released as a single.

[Montclare]

LNOE continues to puzzle me. I love the song, but can't figure out why it has so many streams daily. It's up there with their top songs, getting more streams on a daily basis than more well known songs like She and Minority. And it wasn't a single. I can't figure it out.

[Christian's Inferno!]

5 minutes ago, Montclare said:

LNOE continues to puzzle me. I love the song, but can't figure out why it has so many streams daily. It's up there with their top songs, getting more streams on a daily basis than more well known songs like She and Minority. And it wasn't a single. I can't figure it out.

Yeah it's been getting a lot of streams for quite a while. It used to have around the same streams as East Jesus Nowhere. I've seen non-single tracks from other artists become one of their most streamed songs like Disenchanted by MCR or All I Wanted by Paramore. But idk what it is about Last Night on Earth

[That Dude]

What if we compare Saviors to all the rock albums released in 2024? Is it the top selling out of the Rock?   If we completely ignore all other genres, Saviors has to be near the top of the list, right?        Blink-182 is the only other Rock act with a big album out.     Vampire Weekend's new one is getting praised, but they aren't anywhere near Green Day level, right?  

 

 

 

 

[The 99th revolution]

On 4/11/2024 at 5:47 PM, Hermione said:

I know! I giggled when it said Smashing Pumpkins were supporting because they used to talk tons of shit about them in the 90s lmao. I recently listened to a folder of random old audio interviews I found and they made negative comments about them in three different ones including one with Ben Weasel where he and GD agreed on them as a band to be eliminated from existence. They thought they were boring and pretentious. But to be fair they did used to talk shit about virtually every band out there that wasn't a small/unknown one from 1990s to early 2000s.

Edit: Nice discussion from a 1996 interview where they praise the music but instead talk shit about them as people

This interview also contains this gem from Billie on the subject of GD not being grunge/shoegazers (not about Pumpkins but hilarious)

Half the interview is them shit talking various acts lol

https://punkrocker.org.uk/punkinterviews/greenday.html

Speaking of shit talking bands, I've heard Green Day shittalked on Limp Bizkit in a couple Warning shows and jokingly played their song Nookie at a 1999 show with Mike on vocals. Looks like they're into shittalking bands!

Let's not forget the GD-Slipknot beef. Billie hated Slipknot but Corey played a couple GD songs live (e.g. Pulling Teeth). Pretty funny.

Edited April 13 by The 99th revolution
I don't know if Billie changed his mind so yeah

[Hermione]

5 hours ago, The 99th revolution said:

Speaking of shit talking bands, I've heard Green Day shittalked on Limp Bizkit in a couple Warning shows and jokingly played their song Nookie at a 1999 show with Mike on vocals. Looks like they're into shittalking bands!

Let's not forget the GD-Slipknot beef. Billie hated Slipknot but Corey played a couple GD songs live (e.g. Pulling Teeth). Pretty funny.

Oh yeah they definitely weren't a fan of nu metal. Few Warning era interviews where they expressed their dislike for it. There's a tv one where they were joking about how soft Green Day was compared to those bands and Billie was like "no I'm hard man - just give me something to break" (Limp Bizkit lyric)  

[Arthur_Rhuan]

22 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said:

Yeah it's been getting a lot of streams for quite a while. It used to have around the same streams as East Jesus Nowhere. I've seen non-single tracks from other artists become one of their most streamed songs like Disenchanted by MCR or All I Wanted by Paramore. But idk what it is about Last Night on Earth

Maybe its the Spotify Algorithm? I mean, this song was popular on 21st Tour but no so much. Maybe the algorithm is pushing the song for reasons like retention and likes.

[GreenDayJunkie86]

 

On 4/11/2024 at 12:41 PM, DookieLukie said:

Why does 1981 have so many streams compared to the other non-singles?

 

On 4/11/2024 at 12:46 PM, Montclare said:

That number is wrong.  Dilemma's number was posted twice.

 Yep, just noticed that. Let me fix that. It actually has 3,745,400 streams. Thanks for saying something!

😅

I don't think I have posted a Spotify number check without messing up, haha. Thanks to everyone who noticed, because I probably wouldn't have. 

[Robbie1039]

On 4/11/2024 at 10:47 AM, Hermione said:

 

https://punkrocker.org.uk/punkinterviews/greenday.html

That’s a great interview lol.  I’ve never read it before.  It made me want to revisit Insomniac, so looks like that’s the album of the day today.  

[nflsbest26]

On the upcoming tour, given the potentially 30 song set list, you think Green Day will do less fan interaction (I.e: Billie’s speeches, hey-Ohs, bring fan up on stage, extend hitchin a ride)

 

Seems like most of the 2.5 hr set will be solely pure music.

[The 99th revolution]

On 4/13/2024 at 3:17 PM, Hermione said:

Oh yeah they definitely weren't a fan of nu metal. Few Warning era interviews where they expressed their dislike for it. There's a tv one where they were joking about how soft Green Day was compared to those bands and Billie was like "no I'm hard man - just give me something to break" (Limp Bizkit lyric)  

Oh, I just remembered that Limp Bizkit performed Brain Stew in a 3-song medley in like 2019! 

[Robbie1039]

12 hours ago, nflsbest26 said:

On the upcoming tour, given the potentially 30 song set list, you think Green Day will do less fan interaction (I.e: Billie’s speeches, hey-Ohs, bring fan up on stage, extend hitchin a ride)

 

Seems like most of the 2.5 hr set will be solely pure music.

Most likely.  He did notably less on the Hella Mega tour as well.  He still does it though, he just picks and chooses the spots more.  

[Flashback]

11 hours ago, Robbie1039 said:

Most likely.  He did notably less on the Hella Mega tour as well.  He still does it though, he just picks and chooses the spots more.  

Maybe they did that because the production of Hella Mega was much more synced to light and pyro effects than on previous tours. Even the snare fills in Holiday were synced to the light 😅

[Robbie1039]

9 hours ago, Flashback said:

Maybe they did that because the production of Hella Mega was much more synced to light and pyro effects than on previous tours. Even the snare fills in Holiday were synced to the light 😅

Yeah this could’ve been a reason for less drawn out songs as well.  But I still think they could’ve worked around this.  And I’m not sure if the lights were synced perfectly, just because I don’t think Green Day plays along to a click track, unlike some other bands.  But who knows for sure!