Saviour Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Feels like that's kind of... it for this album? It seems to have disappeared from the charts. Promotion has dried up. Suppose that's the way it is nowadays especially for a legacy artist like Green Day. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Saviour said: Feels like that's kind of... it for this album? It seems to have disappeared from the charts. Promotion has dried up. Suppose that's the way it is nowadays especially for a legacy artist like Green Day. They’ve also stopped promotion for over a month now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy1986 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Which is nonsense for an album this good. The fact that they aren’t promoting Dilemma will never make sense to me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayJunkie86 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 11 hours ago, billy1986 said: Which is nonsense for an album this good. The fact that they aren’t promoting Dilemma will never make sense to me Their songs were in commercials, they played some singles at the New Years Rockin Eve, announced a huge tour a few months before, etc. There are still articles that came out this month about Saviors. All of the promotion was worth it. Dilemma just feels like a forgotten single right now, no one is talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 The trilogy seems like the last time the band really went hard on the promotion (before iHeart happened). No matter your opinion on that group of albums or whether the promotion was good, the band really seemed to be excited about it and making an effort to promote it. I think maybe they (or Billie specifically) might be sort of afraid of going too hard on promoting new albums. Because what if they do and the album is received poorly like the trilogy was. Which is why the last few albums have either been lacking in promotion or have been overshadowed by a Greatest Hits tour, and album anniversaries 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Strychnine Twitch Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I agree with all the commemts above. If this is really the end of promotion for this album it is dissapointing. They said in interviews that this one of their best albums, Tre even mentioned that after they are long gone this will be one of the top albums they will be remembered for. Perhaps they reached their target in means of ticket sales, album going to no 1 U.K etc and they don't see the need to spend more money on music videos or promotion anymore. I always thought and still think that Father To A Son and Suzie Chapstick with good music videos could do very well and keep the attention of people on the album. I mean even the Network appeared on a late night show with Threat Level Midnight. However we haven't seen any late night performances other than Fallon (which was outside of a studio type performance)for this album. I hope I'm wrong and I hope they surprise us with more music videos and promotion for the new album before summer, but currently I find it very unusual to stop promotion for such a strong (return to form) album. Otherwise it will feel like a half story/wasted chance to reach to more people for a lovely lovely album.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stories and songs Posted March 13 Popular Post Share Posted March 13 46 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: The trilogy seems like the last time the band really went hard on the promotion (before iHeart happened). No matter your opinion on that group of albums or whether the promotion was good, the band really seemed to be excited about it and making an effort to promote it. I think maybe they (or Billie specifically) might be sort of afraid of going too hard on promoting new albums. Because what if they do and the album is received poorly like the trilogy was. Which is why the last few albums have either been lacking in promotion or have been overshadowed by a Greatest Hits tour, and album anniversaries I feel like it’s also important to note, though, that Billie pretty much said iHeart transpired how it did *because* of how hard they were hitting the promo circuit in that time. They were exhausted and overextended and in his case, he was using unhealthy coping mechanisms to push through. Not saying that’s the only reason that happened, but I think they were really pushed to the edge of what they could handle. Honestly, from the moment they started promoting the trilogy they seemed on edge to me, not excited. I think now it’s less about them worrying their efforts will be for nothing and more about realizing the go-go-go mentality isn’t healthy for them. Since then, they’ve purposely put their energy into connecting with fans and touring more than trying to hit every promo spot imaginable. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I just heard someone talking about the new Judas Priest album and how the promotion was all frontloaded before the album release, and then on release day and afterward, total silence from the band. It's a more recent thing in the music industry but becoming the norm I guess. Looking at that album, singles were in October, November, January, February and then the album came out on March 6th with no more promotion whatsoever. I'm still holding out for a Saviors Tour live music video for Goodnight Adeline or 1981. And maybe the setlist will surprise us, even with two albums getting worshiped over all else. Imagine this: Billie says "who wants to go home early?" and the crowd boos, except me because I kind of DO want to get out early. lol. Then he says "we're gonna play two albums in full but we're ALSO gonna play a ton of Saviors, are you ready?!!" Now, they have a lot of music to cover. Dookie is 40 minutes, Idiot is 60 and Saviors is 46. and I don't think they'll skip their other big hits. So I'm thinking maybe 7 Saviors tracks. That would put them at 34 songs which could be squeezed into a little over 2 hours. Then there's the eh-ohs and crowd interations and stuff. So maybe seven Saviors tracks. The singles plus 1981, Goodnight Adeline and Corvette Summer, perhaps. If there was NO messing around. Not even an "eh" with no "oh", they could rip-roar through all three albums in 2.5 hours. But that's crazy and like I said, some big hits would be skipped. But yeah, maybe 7 Saviors tracks. And what will the encore be? Saviors or older songs? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, That Dude said: I just heard someone talking about the new Judas Priest album and how the promotion was all frontloaded before the album release, and then on release day and afterward, total silence from the band. It's a more recent thing in the music industry but becoming the norm I guess. Looking at that album, singles were in October, November, January, February and then the album came out on March 6th with no more promotion whatsoever. I have a feeling this is largely down to streaming. Singles post-release seemingly aren’t as big of a deal because of how easy it is to access the full album, so it’s those early singles and first week album streaming numbers that really matter. It makes sense that promo would be front loaded. I would expect GD and any other band touring this summer to do some promo closer to the tour, but that’s about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 47 minutes ago, stories and songs said: I have a feeling this is largely down to streaming. Singles post-release seemingly aren’t as big of a deal because of how easy it is to access the full album, so it’s those early singles and first week album streaming numbers that really matter. It makes sense that promo would be front loaded. I would expect GD and any other band touring this summer to do some promo closer to the tour, but that’s about it. One thing that I liked about the RevRad promotion were the lyric videos. I wish that continued. Sugar Youth got one but that was it for lyric videos after RevRad 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 6 hours ago, That Dude said: And what will the encore be? Saviors or older songs? I'm sure Good Riddance will at least finish up the shows. Didn't people complain on the 99 Revolutions Tour that in the beginning it was ending with Brutal Love and then on the RevRad Tour that shows we're ending with Ordinary World? I'm sure I remember something about that and Good Riddance got added back (I remember feeling a bit sorry for Billie having to come off Brutal Love and come back for Good Riddance) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudley dawson Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 7 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said: The trilogy seems like the last time the band really went hard on the promotion (before iHeart happened). No matter your opinion on that group of albums or whether the promotion was good, the band really seemed to be excited about it and making an effort to promote it. I think maybe they (or Billie specifically) might be sort of afraid of going too hard on promoting new albums. Because what if they do and the album is received poorly like the trilogy was. Which is why the last few albums have either been lacking in promotion or have been overshadowed by a Greatest Hits tour, and album anniversaries Are you implying they didn’t go hard in promoting Saviors? This felt like the most promotion I have ever seen them give an album (and I’ve been paying attention for 30 years now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Christian's Inferno! Posted March 13 Popular Post Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, dudley dawson said: Are you implying they didn’t go hard in promoting Saviors? This felt like the most promotion I have ever seen them give an album (and I’ve been paying attention for 30 years now). I mean they were for a while but they basically completely stopped once the album released. The trilogy was the last time they went all out for it and it was only after iHeart that everything stopped. Everything's been overshadowed by the AI/Dookie anniversaries. In interviews, they hardly talked about Saviors at all, it was mostly about Dookie/AI and the band's history, and I understand why that was a big part of the promotion but I wish they actually talked about the new music I don't really have a problem with how they promoted this time around, I just wish they didn't go from very actively promoting to radio silence. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said: I mean they were for a while but they basically completely stopped once the album released. The trilogy was the last time they went all out for it and it was only after iHeart that everything stopped. Everything's been overshadowed by the AI/Dookie anniversaries. In interviews, they hardly talked about Saviors at all, it was mostly about Dookie/AI and the band's history, and I understand why that was a big part of the promotion but I wish they actually talked about the new music I don't really have a problem with how they promoted this time around, I just wish they didn't go from very actively promoting to radio silence. Yeah, Trilogy era was INSANE until iHeart. There was going to be nine singles (Oh Love, Kill the DJ, Let Yourself Go, Stray Heart, Amy, Stop When the Red Lights Flash, X-Kid, 8th Avenue Serenade and 99 Revolutions - all with music videos. And Green Day were performing all over.... But now we've living in the 20s, lol. It'll always be a bummer that Trilogy, Rev Rad and FOAM seem like they didn't get enough promotion. Saviors had the listening party, which was a really special thing. Maybe they did that because they had a feeling there wasn't enough other stuff going on. I dunno. But so far Saviors is the still the best album of 2024. Somebody's got to try and beat it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayJunkie86 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 hours ago, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said: I'm sure Good Riddance will at least finish up the shows. Didn't people complain on the 99 Revolutions Tour that in the beginning it was ending with Brutal Love and then on the RevRad Tour that shows we're ending with Ordinary World? I'm sure I remember something about that and Good Riddance got added back (I remember feeling a bit sorry for Billie having to come off Brutal Love and come back for Good Riddance) I would love to hear Brutal Love in the encore again. ❤️. I feel like that is a really great song to end a show with. Since they are playing AI and Dookie in their entirety, is Tre going to play All By Myself.😃. I can not wait. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 15 minutes ago, GreenDayJunkie86 said: I would love to hear Brutal Love in the encore again. ❤️. I feel like that is a really great song to end a show with. Since they are playing AI and Dookie in their entirety, is Tre going to play All By Myself.😃. I can not wait. If they're playing Dookie in it's entirety it should mean Tre performing All by Myself. Can't imagine Brutal Love will be added to the setlist but I agree it would be amazing if it was 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayJunkie86 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 13 minutes ago, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said: If they're playing Dookie in it's entirety it should mean Tre performing All by Myself. Can't imagine Brutal Love will be added to the setlist but I agree it would be amazing if it was Maybe for next year's shows. 🤞🏻. Also since this is the Saviors tour, wouldn't they close it with a Saviors song? I am thinking Fancy Sauce will be in the encore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 17 minutes ago, GreenDayJunkie86 said: Maybe for next year's shows. 🤞🏻. Also since this is the Saviors tour, wouldn't they close it with a Saviors song? I am thinking Fancy Sauce will be in the encore. I still think it will end up as Good Riddance but I could be completely wrong of course. The other possibility is Whatsername as they did play that at the shows recently and it's from American Idiot I'm just thinking as well that there was no encore during Hella Mega but hoping there will be this tour For good measure here's Brutal Love at Emirates Stadium on the 99 Revolutions Tour in 2013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayJunkie86 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 24 minutes ago, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said: I still think it will end up as Good Riddance but I could be completely wrong of course. The other possibility is Whatsername as they did play that at the shows recently and it's from American Idiot I'm just thinking as well that there was no encore during Hella Mega but hoping there will be this tour For good measure here's Brutal Love at Emirates Stadium on the 99 Revolutions Tour in 2013 I change my mind. Whatsername should be in the encore, haha. I relate to that song deeply. It broke my heart when I saw a video of him crying to it 💔. Thanks for the Brutal Love video! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy1986 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 For a tour titled the Saviors Tour it disappoints that AI and Dookie being played in full is all that’s talked about….before AI Insomniac was their biggest selling album..now it’s forgotten same with nimrod and warning even 21st Century Breakdown won a Grammy and had their best opening week performance as it went #1 in 16 or so countries….for the band saying how good they think Saviors is they don’t show it….Dilemma could be a huge single but its just getting no push. I don’t understand the lack of publicity for an album they are so proud of and that’s so good. It makes no sense. This album could be bigger and us die hards know aside from Dookie and AI they have great songs and albums makes no sense 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayJunkie86 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 On 3/13/2024 at 11:06 PM, billy1986 said: For a tour titled the Saviors Tour it disappoints that AI and Dookie being played in full is all that’s talked about….before AI Insomniac was their biggest selling album..now it’s forgotten same with nimrod and warning even 21st Century Breakdown won a Grammy and had their best opening week performance as it went #1 in 16 or so countries….for the band saying how good they think Saviors is they don’t show it….Dilemma could be a huge single but its just getting no push. I don’t understand the lack of publicity for an album they are so proud of and that’s so good. It makes no sense. This album could be bigger and us die hards know aside from Dookie and AI they have great songs and albums makes no sense They probably will do a 30th Anniversary for Insomniac next year. I actually think they did a good job with promotion for the album. The debut of 1981 in August, The American Dream is Killing Me in October, Look Ma, No Brains in November, Dilemma in December, and One Eyed bastard in January. Not to mention all of the listening parties, New Years Rockin Eve, ect. Dilemma was the only thing they posted about for 2 weeks when it came out. I do agree that no one really pushes or talks about it anymore. I feel they promoted it pretty well overall. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Maybe they can't generate so much attention anymore for a new album because 20 years ago they played 200 shows a year to promote a new album? I'm not saying they should do that again (they're not 20-30 anymore) but maybe it does have an impact 🧐 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Christian's Inferno! Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 hours ago, billy1986 said: For a tour titled the Saviors Tour it disappoints that AI and Dookie being played in full is all that’s talked about….before AI Insomniac was their biggest selling album..now it’s forgotten same with nimrod and warning even 21st Century Breakdown won a Grammy and had their best opening week performance as it went #1 in 16 or so countries….for the band saying how good they think Saviors is they don’t show it….Dilemma could be a huge single but its just getting no push. I don’t understand the lack of publicity for an album they are so proud of and that’s so good. It makes no sense. This album could be bigger and us die hards know aside from Dookie and AI they have great songs and albums makes no sense "before AI Insomniac was their biggest selling album" Dookie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Grohl Posted March 14 Popular Post Share Posted March 14 20 hours ago, That Dude said: I just heard someone talking about the new Judas Priest album and how the promotion was all frontloaded before the album release, and then on release day and afterward, total silence from the band. It's a more recent thing in the music industry but becoming the norm I guess. Looking at that album, singles were in October, November, January, February and then the album came out on March 6th with no more promotion whatsoever. I agree with this. Stopping promotion after album releases seem to be the norm these days. I remember Creeper went so hard to promote their second album. Music videos, live streams, even fan events. When their third album arrived last year they didn't even promote it half as much and when the album dropped everything went quiet aside from show announcements. It also seems to fit how we talk about media these days. In 2 weeks we're already on to the next thing. We're past the days where a single album or game or movie would captivate an audience for months or maybe the whole year in the mainstream. And I think it's sad. I miss the days of wild promotion. Of course I don't want it to affect artists so if the slow down is better for the band's health then I understand that. still a late night appearance from Green Day would've been nice 👀 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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