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On 1/29/2024 at 11:16 AM, Twundy said:

Do sales from indie stores really not count toward Billboard? I didn’t know that.

Yes, billboard ignore them and they do not report sales to Luminate (the company that provides numbers to Billboard among others): source  https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=339251

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Saviors the song is some of BJs best lyrical work in years. Not corny or cheesy, just really ambitious and honest.

Fancy Sauce is a nothing song for me, lyrics feel lazy as does the music, but hey music is subjective. I still love the record & love the Oasis, anthemic direction.

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1 hour ago, Westerberg89 said:

Saviors the song is some of BJs best lyrical work in years. Not corny or cheesy, just really ambitious and honest.

Fancy Sauce is a nothing song for me, lyrics feel lazy as does the music, but hey music is subjective. I still love the record & love the Oasis, anthemic direction.

I would swap these two descriptions, lol.   Fanch Sauce is great and honest and Saviors is a bit nothing.   

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I find it amazing how we had that song description that said there was nothing to say about Saviors the song, and everyone was like ‘that’s really odd, it must be a mistranslation or mistake or something’ when in actual fact they were correct 😂 I still don’t really know how I feel about the song! 

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13 hours ago, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said:

Just caught up on the thread and people have been talking about when Billie wrote TADIKM. He said in one of the interviews (in Canada I think) that it was 2018. Then as @Alfsaid he changed the lyrics for Saviors.

I'd love to see the original lyrics from 2018

The New! Hot Dog record is Killing Me

The New! Soul, Motown is Killing Me

When it's all double talk of friends and fuckers

The New! Manic Anthemic is Killing Me

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I googled Baby Babylon and found a lot of possible things this could reference.   Baby Babylon is a gun, but there is a film and iraq connections and all sort of dots for my Charlie Day dot board.    Strange Day Man.  Strange Night Man.   

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2 hours ago, MillenniumFan said:

In fact, I rate Fancy Sauce the FOURTH best album closer after Ordinary World, Whatsername and MDP (in that order). 

I noticed you forgot something here. Dont worry, I fixed it for ya 

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The word Babylon reminds me of the Scars on Broadway song of the same name, heh

This is what it's like to be a fan of SoaD and side-projects

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2 minutes ago, Zebahar said:

I noticed you forgot something here. Dont worry, I fixed it for ya 

You misspelled See the Light

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1 minute ago, The 99th revolution said:

This is what it's like to be a fan of SoaD and side-projects

Malakian is a fucking master. 

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6 minutes ago, Zebahar said:

I noticed you forgot something here. Dont worry, I fixed it for ya 

Respectfully but

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2 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

Malakian is a fucking master. 

Exactly, his writing is also pretty cool, take his verse in Stealing Society as an example

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I  kind of understand about Saviors though I woke up with it my head this morning.  There is a distinct feeling though of "what is that song" when not listening but then I love it when I hear it.  

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17 minutes ago, The 99th revolution said:

The word Babylon reminds me of the Scars on Broadway song of the same name, heh

This is what it's like to be a fan of SoaD and side-projects

I was hoping Scars would be more active since System can't write an album, Daron is taking his sweet time on Album 3 if it ever comes at all.   And this is on topic because System of a Down would probably be my favorite band if the tables were turned.  Like if Green Day stalled after Insomniac due to Mike taking over song writing and making Green Day better but it made Billie mad and not as rich.  😄 

Imagine System making their 14th record and Green Day being done after a Mike penned 4th record.   Insane!  

What would Saviors by System of a Down sound like?????. Uh oh, stupid video idea coming on....

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5 hours ago, HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN said:

Yes, billboard ignore them and they do not report sales to Luminate (the company that provides numbers to Billboard among others): source  https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=339251

There’s probably no universal way to account for or verify the numbers. Saviors has done well despite the #4 debut (and so far #4 peak). Dookie didn’t even go #1. It peaked at #2 in 1995.

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14 minutes ago, That Dude said:

I was hoping Scars would be more active since System can't write an album, Daron is taking his sweet time on Album 3 if it ever comes at all.   And this is on topic because System of a Down would probably be my favorite band if the tables were turned.  Like if Green Day stalled after Insomniac due to Mike taking over song writing and making Green Day better but it made Billie mad and not as rich.  😄 

Imagine System making their 14th record and Green Day being done after a Mike penned 4th record.   Insane!  

What would Saviors by System of a Down sound like?????. Uh oh, stupid video idea coming on....

Scars made a selftitled 2008, then Dictator dropped 2018... next Scars album 2028

Also if the SOAD Saviors idea would have a full version of 174 and even songs like Annoying Car Alarm and Magic Babies that were the C&V of Mezmerize/Hypnotize I would be delighted. Can't wait to see what our imaginations will think of!

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Since rock bands aren't very strong in streaming numbers in comparison to pop and rap artists, is there even a chance that Saviors will have some better chart positions in the next few weeks? All the pre-orders are already counted and I don't think they will sell so many copies after the release that they could compensate the lack of streaming (also in terms of the missing promotion which is obviously not happening anymore since the weekend after the release) 🤔

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After taking a break from the album, I returned to it yesterday and this morning and I'm still loving everything about it. Here's my ranking of the songs (at least for now)

Dilemma
LMNB
Living in the 20s
Bobby Sox
Corvette Summer
Suzie Chapstick
Fancy Sauce
TADIKM
OEB
SDAHTS
Coma City
1981
Goodnight Adeline
Saviors
FTAS
Fever (if we're counting the bonus track)

This was really hard to rank because (aside from Fever) I really like all of the songs. There are just some I like more than others. LMNB really grew on me over time. That an Dilemma are probably my favorite singles now.

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 "these are the best of times, twisted and borrowed times.  These are the loneliest of times"   That line hurts me so bad, I love it.   

 

 

 

Weird, but good:

 

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26 minutes ago, Thatsername said:

Yes, I think Fancy Sauce is trying to answer the question Saviors leaves us with and comes to the conclusion that there is no one who can save us. The world is desperately looking and asking for a savior, maybe even a new messiah, but no one answers, no one's there. Jesus quit his job. We're left alone in the chaos of the apocalypse, and the only thing we can do about it now is shrug and smile like the boy on the cover while the world around us is burning. I agree that this is very dark (probably even the darkest GD album) and somewhat unsatisfactory, but itsn't it a feeling we all share in these troubled times? That we're all doomed, that it's too late to change the world for a better? I actually think this is the main motif of the record. It's depressing, yes. But sadly, it's also very true.

I couldn't explain it better than this. Thank you!

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20 minutes ago, That Dude said:

 "these are the best of times, twisted and borrowed times.  These are the loneliest of times"   That line hurts me so bad, I love it.   

 

 

 

Weird, but good:

 

This MV reminds me of the Nimrod 25 booklet idk why. We need more booklets like those.

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I’d like to make the argument that Saviors is better than American Idiot because we can actually hear the bass lines for the first time since Warning.

 

I remember someone back in the day saying, “Where have all the bastards gone? More like where have all the basslines gone!”

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I looove bassline. Longview, Stuart, Nice Guys (which WAS actually an old name for NGFL), She...

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