Vulture interview with Billie Joe

[ekim]

Just listen to this punk rock music!

https://youtu.be/Dj9qJsJTsjQ?si=vHoDxdZGJnOelc3a Gen z music is fkn terrible 

[stories and songs]

Anyway, when I was a kiddo my parents fortunately listened to a lot of great rock music. They even introduced me to Green Day. But when it came to discovering music on my own my preteen years before I became a huge Green Day fan, I loved Avril Lavigne and Aly & AJ. I listened to Hilary Duff and Lindsay Lohan and always liked their more rock-leaning songs (very lightly rock leaning, of course, but that was still what I gravitated to). I remember I loved Vanessa Carlton’s cover of Paint It Black, lol. That music was very much so teenybopper type of music, but it was still good in that it was helping me form my own opinions about what kind of sounds I like. Olivia reminds me a lot of those artists and has some really cool 90s rock influences in her songs. Olivia is 10 years younger than me and I think she’s kinda awesome. She’s very firmly in the pop rock category for now, but I have to imagine she’s inspiring a lot of young listeners to go deeper in the rock direction, which is only a positive thing. We really need a resurgence of rock in the mainstream and artists like Olivia are the gateway into making that happen again. Billie isn’t saying he thinks she’s talented and would like to work with her because she’s a full-on punk musician lol — he’s literally saying that it’s cool that she seems interested in it and might benefit from working with people like him who are so passionate and knowledgeable of this genre.

[Little Boy Named Booze]

33 minutes ago, ekim said:

Just listen to this punk rock music!

It's not supposed to be punk rock what the fuck is wrong with you get over it omg

[DookieLukie]

I don’t relate to what Rodrigo is talking about but some of her music is catchy. I get she was chosen for her body and is part of the machine but there are much worse artists out there.

[farley drexel hatcher]

31 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

I don’t relate to what Rodrigo is talking about but some of her music is catchy. I get she was chosen for her body and is part of the machine but there are much worse artists out there.

i don’t think it’s ok to say she was ‘chosen for her body’ about a 20 year old who released her first album at 17. what a horribly misogynistic thing to say. 

[ekim]

40 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

It's not supposed to be punk rock what the fuck is wrong with you get over it omg

I hear nothing from the 90s it's pure boring bubblegum gen z nonsense 

[DookieLukie]

33 minutes ago, farley drexel hatcher said:

i don’t think it’s ok to say she was ‘chosen for her body’ about a 20 year old who released her first album at 17. what a horribly misogynistic thing to say. 

Are you not familiar with how Hollywood works?

[farley drexel hatcher]

27 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Are you not familiar with how Hollywood works?

of course i am, but that doesn’t make it ok to completely diminish and undermine someone’s achievements and talents. would you say the same thing about justin beiber?

[DookieLukie]

3 minutes ago, farley drexel hatcher said:

of course i am, but that doesn’t make it ok to completely diminish and undermine someone’s achievements and talents. would you say the same thing about justin beiber?

Yes.

And I didn’t diminish her whole career. You can’t deny looks have a ton to do with it. Name an unattractive female musician recently.

[billiesblue]

What a nice surprise to see Bad Nerves get a shoutout from Billie at the end  They're awesome, fast and loud 

[lucky_stars]

2 hours ago, stories and songs said:

We really need a resurgence of rock in the mainstream and artists like Olivia are the gateway into making that happen again. Billie isn’t saying he thinks she’s talented and would like to work with her because she’s a full-on punk musician lol — he’s literally saying that it’s cool that she seems interested in it and might benefit from working with people like him who are so passionate and knowledgeable of this genre.

THIS. 👏  I remember loving The Veronicas, Ashlee Simpson, Avril of course. There is value in preteen “rock” music! I would see more of it come back into mainstream radio, even if I don’t listen to it anymore. In middle school I remember listening to The Who for the first time only after looking up what the theme song was to CSI: Miami. 😂 Who cares how people discover music? Nowadays it’s simultaneously easier to access any kind of music you want at your fingertips, but also to stay stuck listening to what the algorithm thinks that you’ll like. 
 

I’d love to see Billie do some sort of collaboration or producing work with any young artist, but especially a female one. 💥

[stories and songs]

@lucky_starsYes, same on The Veronicas and Ashlee Simpson! I was trying to think of more examples because there were so many artists like this who I loved in like 2002-2004, right in the lead up to Green Day (I also liked the artists my parents listened to and stuff on rock radio, but these female pop rock artists were my first taste of finding music that felt like “mine.”)

This type of music is a great introduction to slightly heavier music than what a lot of kids are pushed when they’re little and definitely influence you more toward rock as you get older.

I really love when older and younger musicians collaborate — the mutual respect is really nice to see and it’s just cool to see people if different generations appreciating the same music. I really love that Billie sounds open to that in the future.

[Flashback]

That's my favorite interview so far I think. And just to leave a little conspiracy theory here:

Since the American Idiot Tour, they never ever mentioned My Chemical Romance in any interview. And now they mention them in two interviews within a few weeks. Is that maybe already the beginning of Reprise's promotion for MCR5? They're on the same label 😌

[Miko]

What finally got me back on to this site was this thing about Trilogy reissue. I'm sure I'm in minority about this but that's not something I'm really excited about and if reissue would sound anything like Otis mixes sounded, it's a horrible idea that serves no purpose to anyone. I'm generally against re-doing songs later on unless it's about owning your own songs (Taylor Swift) or just copy and paste the same song with better production (Welcome To Paradise), but I honestly don't think Trilogy songs sound like shit and even need reissue after 11 years. Sure, Billie described songs sounding ''stiff'' and some songs lack some serious balls due to that ''stiff'' sound (Loss of Control being prime example), but there are so many songs on Trilogy records that sounds unique and fantastic because of that guitar tone and I truly feel some of the songs do lose their unique feeling if you'd just add heavier guitars. Tre! utilizes that guitar tone the best out of these three, but Dos! is also really strong with it. It's only Uno! that would really need it and I'd argue even that album doesn't necessarily need it. The bass and drums sound fucking fantastic on all 3 records thanks to that guitar tone.

What I also don't like is that if Trilogy reissue would be coming, it wouldn't be with all the songs and would be just ''best of Trilogy'' type of album instead. This would ultimately lead to general ''ignore these shitty songs from shitty records and listen these instead!'' consciousness which I'm not a fan of. It's almost like Billie has completely forgotten what those albums were supposed to be and why they even made 3 ''shitty'' albums instead of 1 strong album in the first place. Getting to party  (Uno!), being in the party (Dos!) and hangover (Tre!) themes are really hard to embrace with only one album, but I'm somewhat optimistic they could pull it off if they choose right songs for this reissue.

Best way to approach Trilogy over 11 years later is just accept what those albums are and be done with it or re-visit them and also add something new to them. New lyrics, solos, instruments, you name it. If reissue consists of new stuff instead of direct copy and paste, I'm all in for it and kinda excited how they would approach those songs after all these years. Same songs with just different mix doesn't interest me even slightest and that's coming from someone who adores those albums till the day I fucking drop.

[Beathe.]

Love it when we get a good interview.

[ThranaM]

The triolgy part of the interview and a possible "reissue" of those records made my heart melt. 🥰
 

No words of how the Forever Now music video is doing tho, dissapointing. 😉

[Doggins]

I wish someone would ask what happened to the 1972 and how it evolved into Saviors 

[ekim]

Wtf was this chick's deal about asking him about garbage pop artists? Once again nobody seems to know how to ask about saviors and when billie talks about it they interrupt him to go on about the most mundane shit they can think of 

12 hours ago, DookieLukie said:

Yes.

And I didn’t diminish her whole career. You can’t deny looks have a ton to do with it. Name an unattractive female musician recently.

Susan Boyle lol

45 minutes ago, Doggins said:

I wish someone would ask what happened to the 1972 and how it evolved into Saviors 

Yeah my guess they were planning to call it 1972 and then decided to change it because it didn't come out before the end calendar year they all turned 50 so what would be the point?

13 hours ago, DookieLukie said:

Are you not familiar with how Hollywood works?

Yeah because Britney got there with her lovely singing voice she just happened to be wearing a school girl outfit with her boobs out lol 

12 hours ago, farley drexel hatcher said:

of course i am, but that doesn’t make it ok to completely diminish and undermine someone’s achievements and talents. would you say the same thing about justin beiber?

Yes I would 

[Sanity Loan]

Good questions in this interview! Considering there’s a new album out next week, I wish there was more about Saviors.

[ekim]

21 minutes ago, Sanity Loan said:

Good questions in this interview! Considering there’s a new album out next week, I wish there was more about Saviors.

Definitely I understand the early interviews not talking about it as much because they didn't wanna give too much away but now the album is only a week from being released,  and yet we still don't have a full interview  talking about the actual songs, just a comment here and there and then it's back to the mundane crap wish an actual fan of the band could interview them 

[devilskind92]

5 hours ago, Miko said:

What I also don't like is that if Trilogy reissue would be coming, it wouldn't be with all the songs and would be just ''best of Trilogy'' type of album instead. This would ultimately lead to general ''ignore these shitty songs from shitty records and listen these instead!'' consciousness which I'm not a fan of.

I agree with mostly everything you wrote, especially this part, but honestly that's kind of what people already do to the Trilogy anyway. People either ignore it entirely or shit on it. Having some songs reworked and rereleased could bring some attention to this era. Hell, it could even make people go listen to the other songs from the Trilogy if they like what comes out.

I really don't think we've got nothing to lose by rereleasing some stuff from those often-overlooked albums.

[ekim]

26 minutes ago, devilskind92 said:

I agree with mostly everything you wrote, especially this part, but honestly that's kind of what people already do to the Trilogy anyway. People either ignore it entirely or shit on it. Having some songs reworked and rereleased could bring some attention to this era. Hell, it could even make people go listen to the other songs from the Trilogy if they like what comes out.

I really don't think we've got nothing to lose by rereleasing some stuff from those often-overlooked albums.

Maybe add some unreleased material like dreamcatcher as well

[Miko]

32 minutes ago, devilskind92 said:

I agree with mostly everything you wrote, especially this part, but honestly that's kind of what people already do to the Trilogy anyway. People either ignore it entirely or shit on it. Having some songs reworked and rereleased could bring some attention to this era. Hell, it could even make people go listen to the other songs from the Trilogy if they like what comes out.

I really don't think we've got nothing to lose by rereleasing some stuff from those often-overlooked albums.

Sure, but fans are fans. It's different if the band themselves say ''these are the best songs out from Trilogy'' and that is the moment when my heart breaks when most of Dos! isn't included in it.

One thing that I overlooked was the possibility of including songs from that era that weren't part of final albums. State of Shock, Dreamcatcher and other songs from that era would definitely make me excited.

[The Grohl]

Great interview! I really love how open and honest Billie is about his struggles with addiction. I love seeing him grow as a person and to hear he's doing well. I also like that he's not being an old fart shitting on new music or even pop leaning artists. While I really don't want to see him collab with Olivia Rodrigo it's cool that he at least knows her and can find good in what she's doing. I really can't stand when people just bash pop or any kind of music. Though now I'm more rock and metal leaning, I grew up a teeny bopper. Nsync, BSB, Christina Aguilera, Otown were my obsessions. Also I listened to a lot of 80s pop music because of my mom. It helped shape what I'm into now. And though some pop is definitely manufactured there's still a lot of great writing and craftsmanship involved. And to me it makes sense to ask about today's acts because that's what's huge in the mainstream. It's cool to get his thoughts on the current state of music. Also, I don't buy for a second he's not familiar with the black parade. That album was massive. You somehow don't know about MCR? Okay Billie 🤣 overall great interview.

And don't worry @Doggins whenever I score my interview with Green Day I'll ask about 1972 🤣

[pacejunkie punk]

What’s interesting to me too as he talks about his honesty in Dilemma here is that it’s important to keep in mind that although he was sober and clear thinking again when he made the video and now that he’s been interviewed about the song, he wrote the song when he was still drinking. Even in the throes of it he knew it was something he wished he wasn’t doing, he was admitting it was a problem.  

This is such a contrast to the things he said at other times during that period when he claimed it was the prescription pills that were the problem and that he had a firm handle on alcohol. This song is the one moment of honest clarity but written in real time.