Popular Post killjoywhatsername Posted December 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2023 In my day treatment for rehab we had to write down the first song that came to our minds so I wrote Dilemma cause I’ve been obsessed and then we all listened to the songs we picked and talked about how it relates to recovery. Glad I could force everyone to listen to this absolute banger and watch the video. Lots of “yup that was me”. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Susi Sour cream said: This so much! The whole FOAM promo just felt so freaking wrong 😕 This article also has a little bit of talking about Dilemma: https://themusic.com.au/news/green-day-australia-2025/_CpC7hEQExI/12-12-23 The exciting news comes following the release of Dilemma, with Armstrong explaining that the track resonated with him deeply due to his previous struggles with addiction. “I was sober now I’m drunk again / I’m in trouble and in love again / I don’t want to be a dead man walking / I don’t want to be a dead man walking,” he sings on the track, which was inspired by the singer’s addiction issues. “I’ve struggled with addiction ever since I was a teenager, and I got sober for like five years … I started drinking again and it really started taking a physical and mental toll on me where I just felt like I couldn’t stop, I was a glutton, it became an obsession,” Armstrong said of the personal track (as per Daily Telegraph). “It started affecting the people around me that I love the most. And so that’s what I wrote about. And I haven’t had a drink in like 16 months.” The Daily Telegraph article that this is excerpted from is behind a paywall. Is there anyone that has access to it that can share it here? It sounds like another new interview. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duhhan1023 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: The Daily Telegraph article that this is excerpted from is behind a paywall. Is there anyone that has access to it that can share it here? It sounds like another new interview. If you go here: https://beacons.ai/greendayinc?fbclid=PAAabpi_mXPV7G5JNsF1DNoUQDmUh6mdRaqJdJiOi2ypfJhgj7IdlQAHqIMUc_aem_Ac38DGH9jMYQmkCOh-r8aTvvhngpVb4gBQFoRLrjosWldHuHWBT5R-5zqRZhqTdEoH0 and click on discord you can see scans of the full interview! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 I’m in the WhatsApp community but don’t see it there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Duhhan1023 said: If you go here: https://beacons.ai/greendayinc?fbclid=PAAabpi_mXPV7G5JNsF1DNoUQDmUh6mdRaqJdJiOi2ypfJhgj7IdlQAHqIMUc_aem_Ac38DGH9jMYQmkCOh-r8aTvvhngpVb4gBQFoRLrjosWldHuHWBT5R-5zqRZhqTdEoH0 and click on discord you can see scans of the full interview! Thanks. Seems like that quote is all there was to the interview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 The breakdown part is weird. I love it, but it's weird. What is Billie saying here? At the beginning of the song he says he's obsessed with his problems, so perhaps the "you" here is his problems. He's falling asleep, falling apart and asking why he's obsessed with alcohol. Maybe. What's your take on these lines? Oh, why When I fall asleep tonight On the wing and prayer Oh, why For despair and obsession on you You, yeah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekim Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, That Dude said: The breakdown part is weird. I love it, but it's weird. What is Billie saying here? At the beginning of the song he says he's obsessed with his problems, so perhaps the "you" here is his problems. He's falling asleep, falling apart and asking why he's obsessed with alcohol. Maybe. What's your take on these lines? Oh, why When I fall asleep tonight On the wing and prayer Oh, why For despair and obsession on you You, yeah! Woo hoo hoo yeah! Insert 90s grungy riff leading into kick ass solo 6 hours ago, Duhhan1023 said: If you go here: https://beacons.ai/greendayinc?fbclid=PAAabpi_mXPV7G5JNsF1DNoUQDmUh6mdRaqJdJiOi2ypfJhgj7IdlQAHqIMUc_aem_Ac38DGH9jMYQmkCOh-r8aTvvhngpVb4gBQFoRLrjosWldHuHWBT5R-5zqRZhqTdEoH0 and click on discord you can see scans of the full interview! Anything significant talked about here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted December 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2023 42 minutes ago, That Dude said: The breakdown part is weird. I love it, but it's weird. What is Billie saying here? At the beginning of the song he says he's obsessed with his problems, so perhaps the "you" here is his problems. He's falling asleep, falling apart and asking why he's obsessed with alcohol. Maybe. What's your take on these lines? Oh, why When I fall asleep tonight On the wing and prayer Oh, why For despair and obsession on you You, yeah! To fall asleep (or do anything) on a wing and a prayer means it’s unlikely to happen. He saying he’s lucky if he’ll be able to fall asleep because he’s feeling despair and obsessing over his messed up situation. The guilt and ruminating keeps him up at night. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Montclare Posted December 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2023 Youtube video hit a million today. 10 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingClock Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I haven’t read through the thread but on the opening chords (the intro) it ends with a note out of the range he’s playing. Error kept for artistic purposes? Accidental recorded mistake? Mistake recorded but kept? (Like Michael Jackson’s (“look over your shoulders baby)? It’s on the part of the end of “obsession” last note during “sion”. Exactly 16 seconds in on Apple Music. My personal opinion is its artistic as any musician it would break their ears to hear and it’s not like 300 wouldn’t have heard it on day 1. I think it’s supposed to be like everything is going well and then “ooops bad note”. I haven’t been to or watched any show yet or else if he played it, there is the answer but I don’t want to watch live until I am. It’s actual a single note played just left of the chord middle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Yes, I hear it too, can only assume it’s deliberate, kind of a musical “fuck”. They haven’t played it live yet so we’ll have to wait and see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingClock Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 9 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: To fall asleep (or do anything) on a wing and a prayer means it’s unlikely to happen. He saying he’s lucky if he’ll be able to fall asleep because he’s feeling despair and obsessing over his messed up situation. The guilt and ruminating keeps him up at night. PJ! So nice to hear from you. I hate to differ off the bat but you know I’m a dick. Jk. Missed and love you. Its literally dialogue from some old 40s war movie and as a plane is crashing to land he says on the radio “I’m coming in on a wing and a prayer” and it stayed as a coloquial saying (at least in America) ever since. His plane was all shot up and missing an engine and it makes the landing harder to do. So you might be right in that it’s “harder to do” but more to the point it’s that I’m trying with not much to work with and just a prayer and a shitty plane or whatever the metaphor for the plane is. What that thing is here isn’t quite clear as the criminally underrated BJA lyricist/poet doesn’t always spell it out. So yeah he’s gonna try and fall asleep on a wing “on the wing and prayer” still think that lyric should say “on A wing and a prayer” I think you’re just right that it means it will be hard for him to fall asleep in his condition. I would love to know when he wrote this song. I’ll bet these lyrics were written during the RevRad tour because he was drinking on half of that tour, imho. Hopefully he owns his sobriety, meaning he can bring it back out when he wants or needs to. Long live and love GD and BJA. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I think you are both right @pacejunkie punk and @LaughingClock and I think in the Uk it’s come to mean it’s pretty hopeless or unlikely. I think it should be on a wing and a prayer too, but hey, we’ll give him that one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 3 hours ago, LaughingClock said: PJ! So nice to hear from you. I hate to differ off the bat but you know I’m a dick. Jk. Missed and love you. Its literally dialogue from some old 40s war movie and as a plane is crashing to land he says on the radio “I’m coming in on a wing and a prayer” and it stayed as a coloquial saying (at least in America) ever since. His plane was all shot up and missing an engine and it makes the landing harder to do. So you might be right in that it’s “harder to do” but more to the point it’s that I’m trying with not much to work with and just a prayer and a shitty plane or whatever the metaphor for the plane is. What that thing is here isn’t quite clear as the criminally underrated BJA lyricist/poet doesn’t always spell it out. So yeah he’s gonna try and fall asleep on a wing “on the wing and prayer” still think that lyric should say “on A wing and a prayer” I think you’re just right that it means it will be hard for him to fall asleep in his condition. I would love to know when he wrote this song. I’ll bet these lyrics were written during the RevRad tour because he was drinking on half of that tour, imho. Hopefully he owns his sobriety, meaning he can bring it back out when he wants or needs to. Long live and love GD and BJA. Missed you man 🙂 Thanks for that extra background. Hate to disagree back at you but he stayed sober for the first five years after rehab which included the RevRad tour (2012-2017). He resumed drinking again with The Longshot stuff in 2018. This song like the rest of the album would have been written during that five year slip between 2018 and 2022, most likely during the pandemic. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alba88geo Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I wonder if dilemma being in drop d tuning means we might get whatsername on the tour as well. Imagine an encore with dilemma, whatsername, and good riddance... also is it a little greedy of me to want an acoustic version? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillBreathing Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Alba88geo said: I wonder if dilemma being in drop d tuning means we might get whatsername on the tour as well. Imagine an encore with dilemma, whatsername, and good riddance... also is it a little greedy of me to want an acoustic version? My first thoughts were upon hearing the song was of how much it would suit the acoustic encore! But it’s such a fucking banger with the full band I don’t know what I’d prefer to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Alba88geo said: I wonder if dilemma being in drop d tuning means we might get whatsername on the tour as well That would be awesome! May as well play them back-to-back while the drop-D tuned guitar is out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Alba88geo said: I wonder if dilemma being in drop d tuning means we might get whatsername on the tour as well. Imagine an encore with dilemma, whatsername, and good riddance... also is it a little greedy of me to want an acoustic version? I think so. They’ve eluded to celebrating Dookie , AI and the new album. I think they know a new setlist is needed and nobody will complain about too much Dookie or AI songs. They have played lots from those records historically but they also rotate the same 4-5 songs all the time. I’m not in the majority that wishes for no new music. Ive seen lots of rare songs from the respective tours. Songs that will probably never get played again. At the time it’s like oh ok new song and years later it’s a deep cut story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jengd Posted December 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 Well this is unexpected and cool, I love these. 13 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrillieGD Posted December 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, jengd said: Well this is unexpected and cool, I love these. I want this for every song 8 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DookieLukie Posted December 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 That was awesome. Always love seeing the recording process. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stories and songs Posted December 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 It makes me happy that they seemed to get a lot of footage from this recording process. Hope we get to see more, that was great to watch! 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vintage Disciple Posted December 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 Could we be getting a documentary? It's been about 10 years since Cuatro came out isn't it? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Trilogy vibes in this making of 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jankowski576 Posted December 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 It’s cool to see how relaxed they were during this recording process too, even AI you could tell was stressful, and 21CB was apparently extremely so 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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