Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted November 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, That Dude said: That, along with "I'm special and I don't need your help" coalesces to make some of most scrumptious lyrical bites we've gotten from Green Day in a long time. It's a song that can be both dumb and smart at the same time. There's something special about this song. I think dumb and smart at the same time kind of sums Billie up well. Walking contradiction 🙂 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: I think dumb and smart at the same time kind of sums Billie up well. Walking contradiction 🙂 I can't run away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, That Dude said: I can't run away. Speaking of another great line: I’m a smartass but I’m playing dumb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 10 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: Speaking of another great line: I’m a smartass but I’m playing dumb Green Day say "dumb" 16 times across all their lyrics. "stupid" six times. "brain" x 13. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pereprimus Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 It’s in there 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pereprimus Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Also, to me this song is very much a « the network song » especially the drums part… I wonder if this wasn’t supposed to be on money money part 2 and they say afterwards « this shit should be great for Green Day » and reworked it 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Grohl Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 Listened to this song this morning and it's starting to click with me. Was really feeling the hook! Seems like it gets better the more I hear it. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Spotify streams for TADIKM Day 1 - 248k Day 2 - 487k (+239k) Day 3 - 663k (+176k) Day 4 - 1,078k (+415k) Day 5 - 1,313k (+235k) Day 6 - 1,495k (+182k) Day 7 - 1,718k (+223k) Day 8 - 1,911k (+193k) Day 9 - 2,085k (+174k) Day 10 - 2,336k (+251k) Day 11 - 2,534k (+198k) Day 12 - 2,669k (+135k) Day 13 - 2,788k (+119k) Spotify streams for LMNB Day 1 - 137k Day 2 - 469k (+332k) Day 3 - 636k (+167k) Day 4 - 770k (+134k) TADIKM is losing the consistency it had for the first 11 days as it continues to drop in terms of daily listens. Meanwhile LMNB also seems to be losing streams at a faster rate than TADIKM. The songs may still end up being listened to a lot by Green Day fans when the album comes out, if people appear to enjoy it as much as they did RevRad. If there's a 3rd single released before the album release, a song which could still have the potential to be a decent hit for them, maybe it could be as successful as Still Breathing? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 So this video is playing weird in YouTube but not anywheres else, but it’s clear Ryan Baxley is travelling with them and filming! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienlifeform Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, jengd said: So this video is playing weird in YouTube but not anywheres else, but it’s clear Ryan Bailey is travelling with them and filming! Ryan is working with them (I guess) for a while now, I guess he is part of the team, so Greg can focus only on photos 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumFan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, jengd said: So this video is playing weird in YouTube but not anywheres else, but it’s clear Ryan Bailey is travelling with them and filming! what's up with LMNB being playing in the background twice lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I know, seems ok on other platforms 🤷🏼♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saviour Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) Just realised there’s another suicide lyric. Track 1 and 2? The song has definitely grown on me, and the title is one of their best ever. But at what point does it just become lazy songwriting? He needs to freshen up his metaphors, man. Wonder how many razor blade and bottle rocket references we’ll get? Red lights anyone? Edited November 7, 2023 by Saviour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Saviour said: Just realised there’s another suicide lyric. Track 1 and 2? The song has definitely grown on me, and the title is one of their best ever. But at what point does it just become lazy songwriting? He needs to freshen up his metaphors, man. Wonder how many razor blade and bottle rocket references we’ll get? Red lights anyone? The repetition of words/phrases like "suicide" in both tracks doesn't necessarily constitute lazy songwriting. For example, the red lights references in the trilogy was clearly an intentional recurring thing based on the themes of that project and not just "laziness". AI, 21CB and even RevRad have a bunch of similar intentional repetition/callbacks. It's possible that once we hear the full album that there is reason for any repetition. The one repeated phrase that I think is probably just laziness is the "vendetta/revenge" thing in One Eyed Bastard that has been used multiple times already, in Peacemaker and Bang Bang, which was fine in both songs but now seems like a bit of a lyrical crutch to me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Clockwise Posted November 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2023 At what point does saying "lazy songwriting" over and over again just become a lazy critique? 🤷♂️ 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I also don’t think repeating certain keywords or catchphrases is a sign for lazy songwriting. It’s perfectly natural that artists have a tendency to repeat certain words, just like we all have our individual ways of speaking and expressing ourselves. There are definitely some Green Day songs with bad lyrics, but this isn’t one of them. In fact, ‘terminal vertigo‘ might be my new favorite expression. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saviour Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: The repetition of words/phrases like "suicide" in both tracks doesn't necessarily constitute lazy songwriting. For example, the red lights references in the trilogy was clearly an intentional recurring thing based on the themes of that project and not just "laziness". AI, 21CB and even RevRad have a bunch of similar intentional repetition/callbacks. It's possible that once we hear the full album that there is reason for any repetition. The one repeated phrase that I think is probably just laziness is the "vendetta/revenge" thing in One Eyed Bastard that has been used multiple times already, in Peacemaker and Bang Bang, which was fine in both songs but now seems like a bit of a lyrical crutch to me I love your optimism, but I highly doubt there's any sort of AI / 21CB-style "narrative" (using the term generously here) running through Saviors. I really hope there isn't too as they've done it to death. Its blatantly unintentional. He uses the same allegories and metaphors all the time, they're just glaringly obvious when the tracks follow on from one another containing basically the same lyric. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 The concept is "people stupid". Sometimes it's fun, other times not so much. Good stupid. Neutral stupid and evil stupid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, Saviour said: I love your optimism, but I highly doubt there's any sort of AI / 21CB-style "narrative" (using the term generously here) running through Saviors. I really hope there isn't too as they've done it to death. Its blatantly unintentional. He uses the same allegories and metaphors all the time, they're just glaringly obvious when the tracks follow on from one another containing basically the same lyric. I'm not saying that I'm expecting or even wanting a simple song about being stupid to have "AI/21CB-style narrative" but you can have stuff like repeated lyrics across songs be intentional and mean something. Even if it isn't intentional, I don't see an issue with the word "suicide" being repeated in multiple songs. Nimrod repeats the word "suicide" in Prosthetic Head and Uptight and that's not an AI/21CB style narrative. Is that bad songwriting there? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonflower93 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I like this one. It’s looking promising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasthemenace Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 18 hours ago, Saviour said: He needs to freshen up his metaphors, man. Wonder how many razor blade and bottle rocket references we’ll get? Red lights anyone? Can't answer that right now, I gotta crush this heart with a battering ram and then turn around and shoot the moon into the sun...BRB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Christian's Inferno! Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 Spotify streams for TADIKM Day 1 - 248k Day 2 - 487k (+239k) Day 3 - 663k (+176k) Day 4 - 1,078k (+415k) Day 5 - 1,313k (+235k) Day 6 - 1,495k (+182k) Day 7 - 1,718k (+223k) Day 8 - 1,911k (+193k) Day 9 - 2,085k (+174k) Day 10 - 2,336k (+251k) Day 11 - 2,534k (+198k) Day 12 - 2,669k (+135k) Day 13 - 2,788k (+119k) Day 14 - 2,927k (+139k) Spotify streams for LMNB Day 1 - 137k Day 2 - 469k (+332k) Day 3 - 636k (+167k) Day 4 - 770k (+134k) Day 5 - 930k (+160k) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilskind92 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Glad to see the numbers actually went up a bit. I thought they were about to start plummeting after yesterday's stats. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Christian's Inferno! Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 Spotify streams for TADIKM Day 1 - 248k Day 2 - 487k (+239k) Day 3 - 663k (+176k) Day 4 - 1,078k (+415k) Day 5 - 1,313k (+235k) Day 6 - 1,495k (+182k) Day 7 - 1,718k (+223k) Day 8 - 1,911k (+193k) Day 9 - 2,085k (+174k) Day 10 - 2,336k (+251k) Day 11 - 2,534k (+198k) Day 12 - 2,669k (+135k) Day 13 - 2,788k (+119k) Day 14 - 2,927k (+139k) Day 15 - 3,074k (+147k) Spotify streams for LMNB Day 1 - 137k Day 2 - 469k (+332k) Day 3 - 636k (+167k) Day 4 - 770k (+134k) Day 5 - 930k (+160k) Day 6 - 1,089k (+159k) 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Christian's Inferno! Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2023 Spotify streams for TADIKM Day 1 - 248k Day 2 - 487k (+239k) Day 3 - 663k (+176k) Day 4 - 1,078k (+415k) Day 5 - 1,313k (+235k) Day 6 - 1,495k (+182k) Day 7 - 1,718k (+223k) Day 8 - 1,911k (+193k) Day 9 - 2,085k (+174k) Day 10 - 2,336k (+251k) Day 11 - 2,534k (+198k) Day 12 - 2,669k (+135k) Day 13 - 2,788k (+119k) Day 14 - 2,927k (+139k) Day 15 - 3,074k (+147k) Day 16 - 3,218k (+144k) Spotify streams for LMNB Day 1 - 137k Day 2 - 469k (+332k) Day 3 - 636k (+167k) Day 4 - 770k (+134k) Day 5 - 930k (+160k) Day 6 - 1,089k (+159k) Day 7 - 1,241k (+152k) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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