New album - Saviors - Out January 19th

[purplebenny]

20 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Reminds me of Twitter reviews of movies and songs that read gayness into everything.

But Billie is Bi? And the song is clearly bi?

and has said it on multiple occadions, including in the promo for this album?

(And also is a proponent for lgbtq rights and has again said it at multiple times)

[Miko]

2 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said:

I don't get why some people aren't into Coma City. It's probably my favourite song on the album tbh

It's whole loads of nothing with chorus that isn't as catchy as other songs. It definitely overstays its welcome.

 

1 minute ago, Platypus2000 said:

Nah Bobby Sox and I Was A Teenage Teenager are the worst 2 ever. 

You can't put these 2 songs in same sentence or compare them at all. With that being said, I love both of them.

[purplebenny]

Like in the above interview it’s a queer  singalong? He said as much

and said “us” in reference to the community 

[DonaldTrump]

42 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said:

You're saying in a song that's just about Adrienne and nothing else, he includes both the line "Do you want to be my girlfriend?" and "Do you want to be my boyfriend?". Especially when he said it felt "really liberating to sing" "Do you want to be my boyfriend?" You don't think that's at all alluding to Billie's bisexuality? Why would it feel "liberating" if Billie wasn't still openly bi?

Qoute: But then in the next verse, I thought I should flip the script,” the singer told the Times. “I’m kind of playing the character of the woman. 

so when he sings do you wanna be my boyfriend he acts as the woman not as a guy. 
 

28 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Reminds me of Twitter reviews of movies and songs that read gayness into everything.

whats up next? Billie joe is an openly drag queen because of king for a day?  

 

[Miko]

Since everyone else has done these, here's quick ratings for each song.

American Dream: 4/5
LMNB: 3/5
Bobby Sox: 4/5
OEB: 3.5/5
Dilemma: 5/5
1981: 4/5
Goodnight Adeline: 2/5
Coma City: 3/5
Corvette Summer: 4/5
Suzie Chapstick: 0.5/5
Strange Days: 4.5/5
Living in the 20s: 4/5
Father to a son: 5/5
Saviors: 2.5/5
Fancy Sauce: 3.5/5

Overall 4/5 rating. Doesn't beat Dos! but holy fuck isn't this album just great. Welcome back Green Day, although you never left in my eyes.

[suffoKate]

2 hours ago, That Dude said:

Facts aren't fun, let's speculate widely about Album 15, 16 and 17....what will surely be a Trilogy!!!   Actually, I'll stay on topic...can we figure out exactly who was right first about Saviors?  Who is the best, most reliable insider? 

I’ll have a go! I remember when CLA talked to us in his class about OEB (after it leaked), and at the point in time nobody could be sure if it was going to be on 1972 or if it was some other song leftover from FOAM

[AnonymWarnerGermany]

3 minutes ago, Miko said:

Suzie Chapstick: 0.5/5
 

Its ok to have your own opinion. but this should be illegal

[Miko]

Just now, AnonymWarnerGermany said:

Its ok to have your own opinion. but this should be illegal

Hard to explain, but finnish music is quite literally full of this kind of shit with even cheesier lyrics. Take this song, translate lyrics to finnish, ramble about booze and this is literally a finnish song from 80s. I hate it.

[giozzam]

1 minute ago, Miko said:

Take this song, translate lyrics to finnish, ramble about booze and this is literally a finnish song from 80s.

Best description ever. I'll never listen to it in the same way again. (I'm not from Finland, but still)

[Buby]

The drum fills on the outro for Coma City alone should propel the song rating to 4/5. 

That shit is fire. 

[DonaldTrump]

13 minutes ago, Miko said:

Hard to explain, but finnish music is quite literally full of this kind of shit with even cheesier lyrics. Take this song, translate lyrics to finnish, ramble about booze and this is literally a finnish song from 80s. I hate it.

Train is waiting for you #deported to blink fan community

[Platypus2000]

32 minutes ago, Miko said:

You can't put these 2 songs in same sentence or compare them at all. With that being said, I love both of them.

If you like those two songs then there’s not much hope 😂

[redline punk]

My 2 favorites, after listening to the album 10 times, are Saviors and Coma City

[Robbie1039]

4 hours ago, Squashie said:

Amazon Music posted this video of the guys talking about certain songs and their favorites. I don't have a way to "record" this off instagram (sorry to those who don't have insta...)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2QKo32JAXP/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Thanks!  I don’t have Instagram, but I can still watch it.  

[Maddie86]

I hope Billie and Mike will get interviewed by Guitar World and Bass Player magazines soon, I always love those interviews. I'm hoping for some Chris Dugan and Rob Cavallo interviews too

[Tomcat20]

Coma City combines everything why I fell in love for Green Day in the first place 19 years ago. 🙏🏼

[amsterdamn]

This sounds like the real successor to RevRad!

[MillenniumFan]

Soooo I’ve finally got around to listening to Saviors. Unfortunately not yet on vinyl because, surprise surprise, the delivery is stuck somewhere in Northern Europe, but after a long and at times arduous four year long wait, here’s my review of the guys’ latest effort:

In a single sentence: THE BOYS ARE BACK. Wow. There’s no other way of putting this, Saviors is simply a solid record. From start to finish, from top to bottom. It’s a thoroughly enjoyable listen and in many places, catchy as hell too.

When I looked into the listening party leaks, I will admit to having got a bit worried. With some of the production elements drowned out by the noise and people talking in the background, I was quite frankly underwhelmed by what I heard and I dreaded getting FOAM vibes again. But as was to be expected, hanging around until today in order to give the album a proper listen has paid off beautifully.

Let me break down what makes this album so good in my view:

Number One: Production Many others have pointed this out already, but I have to do so once again. The production is on point. Of course, with Cavallo and CLA back at the helm, this was to be expected. Still, nonetheless it provides me with some solace, given that, pretty much ever since the trilogy came out and all throughout the entire RevRad and FOAM eras I’d been banging on about how much good production matters, to the point of becoming obnoxious. Well, I gotta say, here’s the testament to that sentiment.  Cavallo simply gets Green Day. Yes, when it came to the trilogy he indeed made a few mistakes, though mostly his error was not putting his foot down when required. But Cavallo understands Green Day and in my view, he’s the only one that FULLY understands them (sorry Butch Vig). It’s hard to put my finger on it, but Cavallo somehow manages to strike the perfect balance between rawness/energy and the necessary polish/refinement to make the guys sound their absolute best.

Number Two: Length The album and the songs on it all feel appropriate in length. Do I miss multi-part epics like JOS or Homecoming? Yes, a little bit, but it’s worth remembering that throughout the band’s career the vast majority of their songs have been quite short (in the typical punk format). As such, it comes as no surprise that the songs are fairly short here too. But unlike FOAM which has some songs that are way too short and others that feel like they’re dragged out, every song on Saviors just seems like it’s the exact right length.

Number Three: Variety This album combines a bunch of different styles and goes off in a range of different directions, sonically speaking, but even so every singly song sounds like… well… Green Day. It’s really fun and engaging to listen to and I can see myself returning to many different songs off Saviors in the future, all dependent on which mood I’ll be. And that leads to my final but most important point of what makes this album so good.

Number Four: Green Day This album is simply Green Day through and through. Whether it’s the album cover, the musical arrangement, the quirky song titles, Cavallo’s production elements, you name it, this album just sounds, looks and feels exactly like a Green Day album should. The songs’ subject matter ranges from politics, heartbreak, adolescent overthink/angst, fear of death, love, family relations, addictions, feelings of inferiority, rage, vengefulness, the lot. But on time of this, scattered all throughout this record you will find these, what I like to describe as, “light-hearted” nihilistic or tongue-in-cheek lyrics, so typical of 90s Green Day. Lyrics such as “From sea to shining sea - Whitewashed upon the beach - My country under siege - On private property” or “Don't know much about history - ‘Cause I never learned how to read” or “Here's to all my problems, I just want to drink the poison” or “Sit around in rehab, Feeling like a lab rat” or “I got a robot and I'm fucking it senseless - It comes with batteries and only speaks in English” or “Another shooting in a supermarket I spent my money on a bloody, soft target” or “Coma City, mask on your face - Bankrupt the planet for assholes in space” or “Coma City, Children at play - Back from the chemist to mass on Sunday” etc.

In essence, very dark subject matter cleverly integrated into lyrics that still make you chuckle from time to time and songs that are mostly fast and upbeat in their composition. It’s a great combination. I mean, what is life, really, if not one long tragicomedy? Even the album cover is a perfect expression of this paradox.

Now yes, Saviors is perhaps not as EPIC or bombastic sounding as 21CB or as carefully/meticulously refined as American Idiot. But it doesn’t need to be. Because those little imperfections, rawness and oomph, in balance with the necessary production polish, is what makes this a great GREEN DAY album.

In conclusion, I give this a 7.5/10 or 4/5. No, it’s not perfect. Very very occasionally, during a handful of songs I noticed my attention drifting off towards the end making me contemplate hitting the skip button. So not every song on Saviors is brilliant start to finish, but there are some truly excellent songs on this album. Personal favourites include: Look Ma No Brains, Dilemma, Strange Days Are Here to Stay, Coma City, Living In the 20s and Father to A Son. Perhaps more importantly, viewed as a whole, it is a really good album, easily in my top 3 albums post Warning.

In fact, in terms of the production alone, and this includes important editorial decisions about album length and song composition/order, this album is the best thing they’ve done since American Idiot, I’m not even kidding. And ironically, though American Idiot remains my personal all-time favourite Green Day album, I’d still go as far as to say this is the most Green Day Green Day album since Nimrod.

Oh and one other thing, I was reading the comments under a Daily Mail article covering the recent Fallon NYC subway performance and I noticed that for the first time perhaps since the 21CB album and tour cycle, the negativity of the commenters didn’t get to me at all. Not one bit. That's because now, unlike previously, I don’t care what they think. I know for myself and am able to confidently state that this is a solid record. What the general public at large will think of this, if they even take notice at all, doesn’t matter to me. As far as I’m concerned, this is a great record and no-one can convince me otherwise.

A big thanks to the boys for writing, producing and releasing this thing. They’ve just made a long-term fan very happy. What can I say other than god’s favourite band have done it again. Gracias.

[Miko]

I remember reading some song sounded like it was from FOAM sessions. What was that song? I love FOAM and not a single one of these sounded like it.

[DeJennsitized]

Midnight in the UK! So excited to hear the HQ versions!!!

[DanPak]

10 minutes ago, Miko said:

I remember reading some song sounded like it was from FOAM sessions. What was that song? I love FOAM and not a single one of these sounded like it.

I think it was Corvette Summer? I can kind of hear it in the vocal production, there's some layering in the choruses where Billie sings be king vocals an octave lower which made me think of FOAM.

 

Aside from that and the overall feel of the song though it's definitely 90% Saviors production style.

[Miko]

2 minutes ago, DanPak said:

I think it was Corvette Summer? I can kind of hear it in the vocal production, there's some layering in the choruses where Billie sings be king vocals an octave lower which made me think of FOAM.

 

Aside from that and the overall feel of the song though it's definitely 90% Saviors production style.

Of course it's the fucking song that's been on constant repeat since I listened the whole thing. Classic.

OG point still stands.

[Alan86]

I hear Pixies influence in Bobby Sox. Not the lyrics, just the sound/feel. 

[MillenniumFan]

3 minutes ago, Alan86 said:

I hear Pixies influence in Bobby Sox. Not the lyrics, just the sound/feel. 

For sure! Besides Weezer of course and a bit of Nirvana too (thinking of Lithium here). 

[Zachary Perron]

2 minutes ago, MillenniumFan said:

For sure! Besides Weezer of course and a bit of Nirvana too (thinking of Lithium here). 

Definitely hear a bit of Weezer, FIDLAR (especially during the chorus) and Nirvana in Bobby Sox!