CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Slave To The Network said: What I hate this time is that there is a lineup at all. This is supposed to be Green Day's album tour, not a multi-act bill. I see no good reason for having three fucking bands opening. It's even worse than Hella Mega because at least that was just two. What happened to a 30-45 minute opener and then the main act? Ugh! As much as I love Green Day, I’m not sure they could fill these stadiums without another big act opening for them. Maybe I’m wrong but I feel like these stadiums shows are usually reserved for big pop artists like Taylor Swift or Harry Styles. Sure, there are exceptions (Metallica for example) but I think bringing another big act helps them to make sure that the stadiums are actually full. At least this times it’s named after their new album, which gives me a bit of hope. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontcareifyoudont Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) On 11/10/2023 at 4:50 PM, kybry13 said: Green Day has pissed me off this entire week. Fuck this tour. 100% agree with you. I am still pissed off about how the tickets were sold for the small show in Milan. F**k. Edited November 13, 2023 by idontcareifyoudont 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Slave To The Network said: What I hate this time is that there is a lineup at all. This is supposed to be Green Day's album tour, not a multi-act bill. I see no good reason for having three fucking bands opening. It's even worse than Hella Mega because at least that was just two. What happened to a 30-45 minute opener and then the main act? Ugh! I think there’s two reasons for it - HM was a huge success and they want to repeat that, but also, I think they wanted to offer a package worth the price. If they did stadium tours with one opener, it would still have to be a band big enough to help them fill stadiums and the tickets would still be expensive as they are, plus GD’s set would still probably be under 2 hours. I think it’s likely that they wanted to bring something extra to add value instead of making it just a regular GD show except shorter and more expensive. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Slave To The Network said: What I hate this time is that there is a lineup at all. This is supposed to be Green Day's album tour, not a multi-act bill. I see no good reason for having three fucking bands opening. It's even worse than Hella Mega because at least that was just two. What happened to a 30-45 minute opener and then the main act? Ugh! I agree! I was so disappointed that this is yet another package tour. If Green day needs to play shorter sets because they're getting older fine, they can still do that with one opener. They don't need a whole festival lineup to make it feel justified. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Slave To The Network said: What I hate this time is that there is a lineup at all. This is supposed to be Green Day's album tour, not a multi-act bill. I see no good reason for having three fucking bands opening. It's even worse than Hella Mega because at least that was just two. What happened to a 30-45 minute opener and then the main act? Ugh! Hella Mega was also three opening acts just like this is 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Just now, pacejunkie punk said: Hella Mega was also three opening acts just like this is HM was better. Weezer FOB and Interrupters way better than Rancid and SP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I dunno or green day could just play arenas? Plenty of bands their size and bigger seem fine with it. 10 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: Which would be fine if they didn’t rig that system by creating artificial demand, limiting tickets with multiple presales, VIP packages and preventing single ticket sales. They make it appear tickets are more scarce than they are to inflate the prices. And the false scarcity puts immense pressure on fans to pay up when in reality there will be plenty of tickets left and more may even open up closer to the show. It's dumb. And I get it! I almost caved to fomo reading everyone's excitement at getting tickets but with so many folks saying they bought tickets to HM the day of or days before, I'll just wait. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said: HM was better. Weezer FOB and Interrupters way better than Rancid and SP Of course that’s a matter of opinion. To me they’re equal. I’m a fan of both Weezer and Rancid and I loathe both FOB and SP. I give Hella Mega a slight edge because I’m a bigger fan of the Interrupters over The Linda Lindas but I like them both 7 minutes ago, The Grohl said: I dunno or green day could just play arenas? Plenty of bands their size and bigger seem fine with it. I think they could but would still have to do way fewer shows and economically it would be harder. I’d like to see them go back anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 10 hours ago, BUBBYBUB said: Agree, it's expensive everywhere. Not to mention this is a three band concert. But I saw the same thing happen with tickets for P!nk Olivia rodrigo and Harry styles Ticketmaster feeds on demand The whole market feeds on demand. The equilibrium price is higher than it was 3 years ago, 6 years ago, 10 years ago etc. Spoiler alert: it may level but it’s not going down!!! That’s why it’s important to continually have multiple sources of income and invest in the market. Even with little to no knowledge the benefits of inflation itself will create income that mitigates the inflation you see in the marketplace. I get that it hurts us, the customer, the small guy or whatever but we’re also not entitled to having massive experiences on the floor or 100 section. These are massive privileges. And I will say when I finally wanted to pull the trigger to see Green Day live the first time it was during a 5 year break. Be happy they are present and here and that there are almost 60,000 tickets available. Surely there is one in the house that is available and affordable. And if someone cant carry over $120 over 7-8 months for a ticket they have bigger problems than not being able to see the band live. At that point the focus should be on organizing your life and figuring it out. 31 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said: HM was better. Weezer FOB and Interrupters way better than Rancid and SP Disagree Rancid is way better than FOB and Weezer. FOB is legit one of the worst bands I’ve ever heard. There’s nothing special about them. Weezer is ok I like some songs but they’re too generic for me. Smashing Pumpkins has their own sound and they are a great band. Rancid is punk royalty and their 90s hits align nicely beside Green Day’s older tracks. Outside of Green Day, the only other person to hold grammy awards in the group is Tim Armstrong. Cant wait to hear Matt Freeman rip the Maxwell Murder solo in the stadium. Pete Wentz couldn’t even hold Matt’s pick. 32 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Of course that’s a matter of opinion. To me they’re equal. I’m a fan of both Weezer and Rancid and I loathe both FOB and SP. I give Hella Mega a slight edge because I’m a bigger fan of the Interrupters over The Linda Lindas but I like them both I think they could but would still have to do way fewer shows and economically it would be harder. I’d like to see them go back anyway The costs for hockey arenas is significantly cheaper but the tickets would remain with the same pricing and then hit the secondary market for much much more. The difference between this and the big stadiums is theres no guarantee to get a ticket with the hockey arena situation. With the giant stadiums you’re almost guaranteed a seat somewhere. On 11/10/2023 at 10:59 AM, DookieLukie said: Weird that nosebleeds at my venue are only being sold as single tickets. Every cheaper section has single tickets but no pairs? That doesn’t make sense. Feels like they’re setting it up that way to push people into more expensive tickets. Watch the nosebleeds open up in a few weeks with lots of empty seats. Did you try to manually drill down into a specific section? I find that works sometimes to break against the algorithms that are set by ticketmaster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Did this tour have an unusually large number of presales? Just saw Drake's tour announcement and there's just one presale for our local date, through Cash App. I couldn't even keep track of how many there were for this tour, it seemed insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: Did this tour have an unusually large number of presales? Just saw Drake's tour announcement and there's just one presale for our local date, through Cash App. I couldn't even keep track of how many there were for this tour, it seemed insane. I see this a lot with tours lately. It seems to be the norm for there to be multiple pre sales: email, Spotify, credit cards, live Nation etc. it's so tiring. I remember the days where you had to be a Idiot Fan Club member to get pre sale access and if you weren't, best of luck in the general sales. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, The Grohl said: I see this a lot with tours lately. It seems to be the norm for there to be multiple pre sales: email, Spotify, credit cards, live Nation etc. it's so tiring. I remember the days where you had to be a Idiot Fan Club member to get pre sale access and if you weren't, best of luck in the general sales. Yeah, asking folks to open a credit card in order to get tickets feels like such a scam. A fan club I totally understand. But I guess the people who are most likely to open cards on a whim are also probably likely to spend more money so their strategy is pretty obvious. All of the regular pit tickets for Pittsburgh — so, what, like 7 — sold in the first credit card presale. It just doesn't seem right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, The Grohl said: I see this a lot with tours lately. It seems to be the norm for there to be multiple pre sales: email, Spotify, credit cards, live Nation etc. it's so tiring. I remember the days where you had to be a Idiot Fan Club member to get pre sale access and if you weren't, best of luck in the general sales. I think for the big shows that’s part of how they create an appearance of scarcity among the buyers more likely to shell out. I’m sure they’ve done the research and know that leads to higher overall earnings for a finite number of tickets. You’re limited by the size of the venue, so you can only increase revenue in so many ways. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I think I have decided on Georgia rather than North Carolina. It's a longer drive, but I like the Smashing Pumpkins and want to see them. Probably wouldn't bother if they weren't with Green Day. And if I'm spending a trillion Dude Bucks or whatever for this show, may as well go big or go home, right? Billy Corgon and Billie Armstrong. Tim Armstrong. Do the Linda Lindas have a related named as well? The Billie-Billy Bill! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 15 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: Hella Mega was also three opening acts just like this is I forgot about the Interruptors. You're right. I get that they need other big acts to actually fill these stadiums, but that just adds to my point. Why play the big stadiums in the first place if you can't get away with it on your own? An arena tour would be much more reasonable, and cheaper for fans. If they can't play as many shows as they used to when doing an arenas, I think they can afford to not make quite as much money on the tour. They are loaded enough to coast for the rest of their lives and still pay the tour people well. I also understand that adding acts also helps "justify" the ticket price, but for fans that don't care about the other bands and just want to see Green Day, it really is no different than charging that exorbitant ticket price for only one band. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali89 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 My friend saying he wants to buy tickets to the SF show, as soon as he saw the prices, "Nevermind, maybe I'll try to win tickets on the radio" He thinks I'm crazy for spending $600. The things I do for my favorite band... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warszawa Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Cali89 said: My friend saying he wants to buy tickets to the SF show, as soon as he saw the prices, "Nevermind, maybe I'll try to win tickets on the radio" He thinks I'm crazy for spending $600. The things I do for my favorite band... Wow that is crazy price. We got ourselves tickets for 150 euros each in golden circle. Can you elaborate the idea of golden circle? Will we get an early access to this zone or we still have to wait in the line with other fans and run to our area once the doors are open? I haven't been to Green day concert yet and I am describing what I have seen in their live videos so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Slave To The Network said: I forgot about the Interruptors. You're right. I get that they need other big acts to actually fill these stadiums, but that just adds to my point. Why play the big stadiums in the first place if you can't get away with it on your own? An arena tour would be much more reasonable, and cheaper for fans. If they can't play as many shows as they used to when doing an arenas, I think they can afford to not make quite as much money on the tour. They are loaded enough to coast for the rest of their lives and still pay the tour people well. I also understand that adding acts also helps "justify" the ticket price, but for fans that don't care about the other bands and just want to see Green Day, it really is no different than charging that exorbitant ticket price for only one band. For specific fans not caring about certain bands, that’s very subjective and doesn’t change the objectivity of the value being provided. There’s also the chance you go to the show and actually give them a listen and you enjoy yourself. I’m surprised at the complaints about pricing. I knew there’d be some objections but now it’s becoming whiny, old and stale. Did everyone think tickets were gonna be 50-80 dollars? Does nobody see the cost of gas? The cost of living/food? I don’t understand, this has been ongoing steady since the mid 2000s… The cost of the tour has gone up significantly and they’re hitting way less stops along the way. They’re spending entire months of their lives to deliver the service to us. There’s a $ value on that. At the end of the day when you finish work you go home to your family, they get on a bus. My biggest pet peeve right now are people who complain about the piss poor status of art as a whole but cannot shell out anything to support. Then there’s the attitude of “well they dont have to work so…”. They have a hard job and I can guarantee most 9-5ers and shift workers aren’t designed to pump in the hours or level of effort required to put on a tour like this successfully, let alone make an album. There’s also an amazing road crew that helps put the stage together and make sure they standardize the experience from town to town. They also don’t get to go home to their families at the end of the night. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, Lenny said: I’m surprised at the complaints about pricing. I knew there’d be some objections but now it’s becoming whiny, old and stale. Did everyone think tickets were gonna be 50-80 dollars? Does nobody see the cost of gas? The cost of living/food? I don’t understand, this has been ongoing steady since the mid 2000s… I don't think the normal prices were too high. I'm angry at the fact that everything was sold in a minute and the only pit tickets left was $760. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said: I don't think the normal prices were too high. I'm angry at the fact that everything was sold in a minute and the only pit tickets left was $760. There’s demand right? Honestly, pit to me is overrated. I’ve been there, done that. I think it’s worth doing once. I try and find the best spots for sound. I’m there to hear the music. A decent view usually is a byproduct of good sound. I got right smack down the middle for the Toronto show. I could be closer but could also be in for another $300 per ticket. In that case I’d be going to the show alone. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suffoKate Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I missed the Rev Rad tour deeming it too expensive, and I regret it to this day. I vowed to get to at least one show every tour possible after that, because you never know when you’ll ever see them again. If it helps ease the pain of anyone not going, It’s sounding like the Linda Linda’s are plant band made up of nepo kids who were formed by their parents that were already established in the industry. If you care about that sorta thing haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Grohl Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 I don't think anyone was expecting tickets to be $50 but I don't think people expected them to be 200+ per ticket. Lots of folks can't swing that and it's disappointing. The state of concerts is getting to the point where if you don't have mad disposable income, you miss out. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, suffoKate said: I missed the Rev Rad tour deeming it too expensive, and I regret it to this day. I vowed to get to at least one show every tour possible after that, because you never know when you’ll ever see them again. If it helps ease the pain of anyone not going, It’s sounding like the Linda Linda’s are plant band made up of nepo kids who were formed by their parents that were already established in the industry. If you care about that sorta thing haha That’s disappointing to hear. I guess the reality is there’s no way for a bunch of 11 year olds to get industry and media attention without at least some connections but they really put themselves out there as a DIY punk success story because they were unusual. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mar Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 I (OK, technically my mom's phone number) won the radio station contest! (Watch them be worse seats than the one I bought and am bitching about 😂) 6 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mar said: I (OK, technically my mom's phone number) won the radio station contest! (Watch them be worse seats than the one I bought and am bitching about 😂) AHHHHH Congrats!! That's amazing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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