New Song 1981

[Lenny]

13 hours ago, petros said:

Wait, does anyone know. Is @Sheeniusa musician?

Imagine being this immature. We’re on a forum with a ton of people who play instruments here, many are or have been in their own bands.

C’mon man wake up and cut the crap.

[Reverend Strychnine Twitch]

3 hours ago, frankoz said:

I keep skipping FOAM (the record), cause it's entirely bad and soulless.

Yes it is the one to be skipped as an album. 

[Little Boy Named Booze]

23 minutes ago, Sheenius said:

Imagine being this immature. We’re on a forum with a ton of people who play instruments here, many are or have been in their own bands.

C’mon man wake up and cut the crap.

You're a musician and you're rich!

[That Dude]

I've been on a hiatus from my musical projects, my ears were losing too much blood to listen to Green Day the right amount.  Fear not though.   One day Living By Words, Young N Imbitious and Chris Norwood solo will release music again.

Hey @Sheenius, I'd love to hear what you've done.   I bet it's at 1981 levels or awesome or better.

[petros]

1 hour ago, Sheenius said:

Imagine being this immature. We’re on a forum with a ton of people who play instruments here, many are or have been in their own bands.

C’mon man wake up and cut the crap.

No man just asking to know if your opinion matters or not. I personally wouldn't read an opinion of a pleb that doesn't play music, sorry.

[Gwen Stacy]

30 minutes ago, petros said:

No man just asking to know if your opinion matters or not. I personally wouldn't read an opinion of a pleb that doesn't play music, sorry.

Please take that attitude back to 4chan. Everyone’s opinion here is equally valid. You jackass.

[Khaleesi.]

1 hour ago, petros said:

No man just asking to know if your opinion matters or not. I personally wouldn't read an opinion of a pleb that doesn't play music, sorry.

If you don’t care about an opinion, move on and don’t read it. There’s no need to be a pretentious asshole. 

[petros]

You do realize that I said that since that user always tries to validade their opinion by mentioning they play music and thus their opinion is better right?

[pacejunkie punk]

41 minutes ago, petros said:

You do realize that I said that since that user always tries to validade their opinion by mentioning they play music and thus their opinion is better right?

Personally, I’m always interested to know if someone has particular expertise on a subject but the question I have is, why does that trigger you?

[Dirnt Dirnt Dirnt]

Struggling to find the last time the song 1981 was mentioned in here  😂

[pcj]

41 minutes ago, Dirnt Dirnt Dirnt said:

Struggling to find the last time the song 1981 was mentioned in here  😂

Keep going back and watching the 1981 video in Quebec, in amongst the crowd, clapping theirs hands above their heads on Billie Joe's instruction, as always. Could pretend I was there, that feeling is so special. Didn't care about the tech' probs. It's called live music, awesome. I really hope it's a single release.

[BratReject23]

38 minutes ago, pcj said:

Keep going back and watching the 1981 video in Quebec, in amongst the crowd, clapping theirs hands above their heads on Billie Joe's instruction, as always. Could pretend I was there, that feeling is so special. Didn't care about the tech' probs. It's called live music, awesome. I really hope it's a single release.

Yeah the more I listen to it the more I get excited! I think it’s typical gd sound but with a fresh production it could work mediatically 

[KGLWW]

Sometimes I wish that the next Green Day album is so bad, so that people will shut up about how bad they think FOAM is. It isn't their greatest record, but it will probably always be their most misunderstood.

[GDFan2019]

5 hours ago, pcj said:

Keep going back and watching the 1981 video in Quebec, in amongst the crowd, clapping theirs hands above their heads on Billie Joe's instruction, as always. Could pretend I was there, that feeling is so special. Didn't care about the tech' probs. It's called live music, awesome. I really hope it's a single release.

I saw it live on a Facebook livestream!!!! I'll never forget the feeling when I realized it was a new song!!!! At first, I thought it was some obscure cover!!!

[Little Boy Named Booze]

9 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said:

I saw it live on a Facebook livestream!!!! I'll never forget the feeling when I realized it was a new song!!!! At first, I thought it was some obscure cover!!!

wanna talk about it?

[Lenny]

On 9/6/2023 at 10:33 AM, petros said:

No man just asking to know if your opinion matters or not. I personally wouldn't read an opinion of a pleb that doesn't play music, sorry.

Ironic considering you weren’t even a sperm cell when Pop Disaster Tour was happening. It’s really easy to try and diminish someone. How does this comment feel?

 

On 9/6/2023 at 11:49 AM, petros said:

You do realize that I said that since that user always tries to validade their opinion by mentioning they play music and thus their opinion is better right?

I’m sorry that me sharing my personal experiences triggers you.

You’re going to hear opinions you don’t agree with for the rest of your life. How you react to it shows more about your character than the person you’re attempting to tear down.

You’ll learn in time the argumentative thing is a waste of energy and won’t get you too far ahead. You have the freedom to build the conversation and bring light to your pov and experiences. Leverage that to build the conversation rather than tear people down.

For me that’s where I leave this discussion. I am no longer going to discuss this with you if I am going to be pulled into a high school drama.

 

On 9/6/2023 at 9:04 AM, Little Boy Named Booze said:

You're a musician and you're rich!

I’m not a pro musician anymore, that was years ago in all honesty. It’s been more about production stuff as of late and just getting good sounds. Always love to help people find the right instruments.

As for the second part my financial planner asked me to hang out the other day LOL

but honestly from the biggest place of humility I can’t stress financial freedom any more than I have already. Being disciplined and strategic with the resources you do have can build the bridge to the resources you don’t currently have. Quitting smoking years ago was a huge step forward for me and helped shape my life into something stable.

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

On 9/6/2023 at 4:33 PM, Van Weezer Guitar Hero said:

 FOAM is. It isn't their greatest record, but it will probably always be their most misunderstood.

I think its perfectly understood.  They made a passionless or lets say passion lacking, corporate, soulless, car commercial album to try to sell tickets to hella mega.

[Lenny]

On 9/6/2023 at 5:33 PM, Van Weezer Guitar Hero said:

Sometimes I wish that the next Green Day album is so bad, so that people will shut up about how bad they think FOAM is. It isn't their greatest record, but it will probably always be their most misunderstood.

There’s things I dislike and like about Foam but the first outweighs the second for me.

I’ll stick to the positives and say I liked the use of new rhythms and I liked that Billie tried something different. Graffitia was a great addition to the catalog and Take The Money and Crawl was as well. Father of All was a different single and Tre’s beat is cool and of course something new for the band.

but imo I think Warning is the most misunderstood in their career. I would even say Uno Dos and Tre as well. The trilogy was just maybe too much to digest at once and to the average casual listener it may have looked like a cash grab or something gimmicky or even something overwhelming.

We always say here if you cut it to the best 13-14 songs it would be solid. I think that’s probably true.

1 hour ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

I think its perfectly understood.  They made a passionless or lets say passion lacking, corporate, soulless, car commercial album to try to sell tickets to hella mega.

I thought the whole point of the album was to introduce soul into the Green Day sound!?!

all joking aside it’s easily the worst album theyve released. I don’t know if I agree wholeheartedly with the things you said.

A corporate album would require an actual real album cover. All I know is that Green Day has been trying to get out of their contract since 21cb. They mentioned trying to get out of it as early as 2010. They tried a trilogy to expedite it, then they did rev rad where they didnt even put their name on the cover and then this one was just pure sabotage. 
 

I’m sure there will be some sort of story in the future about what really happened here but theyve been disengaged since 21cb. I hope this era is over with the new album though.

[Miko]

9 hours ago, Sheenius said:

We always say here if you cut it to the best 13-14 songs it would be solid. I think that’s probably true

This statement right here is the thing people don't fucking understand what Trilogy is and what it's supposed to be. Those albums are not supposed to be full of hits with classic punk rock Green Day sound nor another rock opera, those albums are supposed to be generic party themed albums. Uno! gets you going, Dos! is you in the party and ends in blackout drunk (Wow That's Loud!/Amy) and Tre! is full of power ballads to really give you that hangover feel. If you start taking ''bad'' songs out to get one ''good'' album out of those 3 albums, you fucking missed the point.

Was every single one one of those 37 songs classic Green Day? No, they clearly struggled to fit some of the songs in and some of the songs don't fit the theme of album(s) at all (Drama Queen) and track order is rough at the places. They're not perfect albums nor they were perfectly executed but atleast the idea was there and with that idea in mind it makes perfect sense what those albums try to be.

Dos! will always be my favorite Green Day album, but I kind of wish they had released it as Foxboro instead.

[pacejunkie punk]

2 hours ago, Miko said:

This statement right here is the thing people don't fucking understand what Trilogy is and what it's supposed to be. Those albums are not supposed to be full of hits with classic punk rock Green Day sound nor another rock opera, those albums are supposed to be generic party themed albums. Uno! gets you going, Dos! is you in the party and ends in blackout drunk (Wow That's Loud!/Amy) and Tre! is full of power ballads to really give you that hangover feel. If you start taking ''bad'' songs out to get one ''good'' album out of those 3 albums, you fucking missed the point.

Was every single one one of those 37 songs classic Green Day? No, they clearly struggled to fit some of the songs in and some of the songs don't fit the theme of album(s) at all (Drama Queen) and track order is rough at the places. They're not perfect albums nor they were perfectly executed but atleast the idea was there and with that idea in mind it makes perfect sense what those albums try to be.

Dos! will always be my favorite Green Day album, but I kind of wish they had released it as Foxboro instead.

You kind of undermined your whole argument there with that last sentence 😉 But I get what you’re saying. Dos might have made a decent Tubbies record but the Trilogy is what it was meant to be and I like it that way. I still find those songs fresh and fun I’m glad they gave us so much music and didn’t hold back and even still it was a fraction of the amount of songs they had. Maybe we’ll get a deluxe release someday with some of the thirty or so songs that didn’t make it

[KGLWW]

14 hours ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

I think its perfectly understood.  They made a passionless or lets say passion lacking, corporate, soulless, car commercial album to try to sell tickets to hella mega.

Maybe if you listened to other things that sound different than Green Day, you’d realize that’s not really the case. But you’ll believe what you want to believe, just get tired of people repeating it over and over again. People can’t get upset about people complaining about the trilogy and then also complain about FOAM so much

And if you really listen, it’s obvious they care, but they find it harder to care as much in the moment. We all go through times where it’s harder to care if you have reasonable political beliefs. They don’t owe you to be political activists all the time. That is what they more honestly felt like making at the time.

[jengd]

41 minutes ago, Van Weezer Guitar Hero said:

Maybe if you listened to other things that sound different than Green Day, you’d realize that’s not really the case. But you’ll believe what you want to believe, just get tired of people repeating it over and over again. People can’t get upset about people complaining about the trilogy and then also complain about FOAM so much

And if you really listen, it’s obvious they care, but they find it harder to care as much in the moment. We all go through times where it’s harder to care if you have reasonable political beliefs. They don’t owe you to be political activists all the time. That is what they more honestly felt like making at the time.

I kind of agree with you but I think people miss the point of FOAM.  It was never meant to be a “deep” album, remember back to pre-pandemic 2020 when everyone was hoping for another “roaring 20s”, many were still climate change deniers and everything had to be instant, both gratification and disposability. That’s the setting for Foam to me, hence the duration.  It’s a party album to dance and have fun too.  

[Christian's Inferno!]

On 9/6/2023 at 10:33 PM, Van Weezer Guitar Hero said:

Sometimes I wish that the next Green Day album is so bad, so that people will shut up about how bad they think FOAM is. It isn't their greatest record, but it will probably always be their most misunderstood.

It is their worst album by a mile imo. It may not be a truly awful album, it has its moments, but there have never really been songs I've truly hated on a Green Day album until FOAM. There have been songs that I don't care for or are just not for me personally but FOAM just has songs that baffle me as to how they were included on a Green Day album. And not because it doesn't sound like Green Day but because some of these songs just sound like shit

12 hours ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

I think its perfectly understood.  They made a passionless or lets say passion lacking, corporate, soulless, car commercial album to try to sell tickets to hella mega.

FOAM is not a sellout album. I think it needed more time in the oven but I don't think the band made it with the intention of selling tickets or making money. Really, if they wanted to make a bunch of money, they would've gone a different route. FOAM is so outdated. It was obvious that it wasn't going to be a big commercial hit for them and I don't think that was really their intention anyway. Idk if I expected it to perform as badly as it did but I never would've expected a hit as big as American Idiot, Dookie or even 21CB

55 minutes ago, Miko said:

This statement right here is the thing people don't fucking understand what Trilogy is and what it's supposed to be. Those albums are not supposed to be full of hits with classic punk rock Green Day sound nor another rock opera, those albums are supposed to be generic party themed albums. Uno! gets you going, Dos! is you in the party and ends in blackout drunk (Wow That's Loud!/Amy) and Tre! is full of power ballads to really give you that hangover feel. If you start taking ''bad'' songs out to get one ''good'' album out of those 3 albums, you fucking missed the point.

Was every single one one of those 37 songs classic Green Day? No, they clearly struggled to fit some of the songs in and some of the songs don't fit the theme of album(s) at all (Drama Queen) and track order is rough at the places. They're not perfect albums nor they were perfectly executed but atleast the idea was there and with that idea in mind it makes perfect sense what those albums try to be.

Dos! will always be my favorite Green Day album, but I kind of wish they had released it as Foxboro instead.

I honestly prefer the trilogy the way it is than I would just taking 13 tracks from the full 37 song project, because I absolutely think there would be great songs left off if they were to do that. Even the songs that aren't that great have their enjoyers so I'm fine with the trilogy existing in its current state. However, I would not have been opposed to them making a 18+ track album out of most of Uno/Tré, and then releasing most of Dos (+ Troublemaker) as Foxboro Hot Tubs. There are a couple songs on Dos that don't fit in with the Foxboro vibe that could've been on the Green Day album instead though.

I don't see why @Sheenius "doesn't fucking understand" what the Trilogy is because he'd probably prefer it to be condensed to 13-14 songs though. Nobody's saying they're supposed to be classic Green Day / rock opera sounding albums. The whole "party" theme is not that deep and the project wouldn't really have been any worse if they removed that whole concept

[Lenny]

4 hours ago, Miko said:

This statement right here is the thing people don't fucking understand what Trilogy is and what it's supposed to be. Those albums are not supposed to be full of hits with classic punk rock Green Day sound nor another rock opera, those albums are supposed to be generic party themed albums. Uno! gets you going, Dos! is you in the party and ends in blackout drunk (Wow That's Loud!/Amy) and Tre! is full of power ballads to really give you that hangover feel. If you start taking ''bad'' songs out to get one ''good'' album out of those 3 albums, you fucking missed the point.

Was every single one one of those 37 songs classic Green Day? No, they clearly struggled to fit some of the songs in and some of the songs don't fit the theme of album(s) at all (Drama Queen) and track order is rough at the places. They're not perfect albums nor they were perfectly executed but atleast the idea was there and with that idea in mind it makes perfect sense what those albums try to be.

Dos! will always be my favorite Green Day album, but I kind of wish they had released it as Foxboro instead.

I just want to state that my quoted part is more highlighting how people in general received or what would have made them receive it better.

I personally like the 3 different albums and listened to every song. There are some objectively bad songs there or maybe some incomplete ones. Nightlife would have been way better without Lady Cobra. I want my Green Day albums to include the members of Green Day not some random drunk lady lol

30 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said:

It is their worst album by a mile imo. It may not be a truly awful album, it has its moments, but there have never really been songs I've truly hated on a Green Day album until FOAM. There have been songs that I don't care for or are just not for me personally but FOAM just has songs that baffle me as to how they were included on a Green Day album. And not because it doesn't sound like Green Day but because some of these songs just sound like shit

FOAM is not a sellout album. I think it needed more time in the oven but I don't think the band made it with the intention of selling tickets or making money. Really, if they wanted to make a bunch of money, they would've gone a different route. FOAM is so outdated. It was obvious that it wasn't going to be a big commercial hit for them and I don't think that was really their intention anyway. Idk if I expected it to perform as badly as it did but I never would've expected a hit as big as American Idiot, Dookie or even 21CB

I honestly prefer the trilogy the way it is than I would just taking 13 tracks from the full 37 song project, because I absolutely think there would be great songs left off if they were to do that. Even the songs that aren't that great have their enjoyers so I'm fine with the trilogy existing in its current state. However, I would not have been opposed to them making a 18+ track album out of most of Uno/Tré, and then releasing most of Dos (+ Troublemaker) as Foxboro Hot Tubs. There are a couple songs on Dos that don't fit in with the Foxboro vibe that could've been on the Green Day album instead though.

I don't see why @Sheenius "doesn't fucking understand" what the Trilogy is because he'd probably prefer it to be condensed to 13-14 songs though. Nobody's saying they're supposed to be classic Green Day / rock opera sounding albums. The whole "party" theme is not that deep and the project wouldn't really have been any worse if they removed that whole concept

Sound like shit in regards to the way they are composed, production or both?

I re-listened yesterday and I really do not like the production at all. It sounds like it was made with some band-in-a-box software or something. 
 

Tre’s drums sound awful too. Ironic because across all the other albums he always has an amazing drum sound. My dad was a drum tech for a multi-platinum selling band so my dad always listens to the records to hear the drums and how they were recorded and mixed etc. 

Thank god Chris and Rob are back for the next one.

[petros]

18 hours ago, Sheenius said:

Ironic considering you weren’t even a sperm cell when Pop Disaster Tour was happening. It’s really easy to try and diminish someone. How does this comment feel?

Wtf are you staying you don't even know how old I am and that's not even true.

18 hours ago, Sheenius said:

I’m sorry that me sharing my personal experiences triggers you.

It's not about triggering anyone. The way you disregarded blink as if they are a shitty band that cannot even play their own instruments and then trying to justify it by using the fact that you play music is what I judged you on. I'm not going to sit here and write paragraphs explaining to you why a band as massive and successful as blink is important.