GDFan2019 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Apparently it’s being removed in various countries, yet I still see it here in the US. Granted, it’s not the best song, but it actually isn’t bad. It’s a song people here love to hate but what could be the reason behind this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Not sure this deserves a thread when songs drop from Spotify all the time. Usually it’s just because the licensing deal has run out and needs to be renewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Not sure this deserves a thread when songs drop from Spotify all the time. Usually it’s just because the licensing deal has run out and needs to be renewed. Oh that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohamxx Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 It has disappeared on Apple Music Europe too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miko Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: Not sure this deserves a thread when songs drop from Spotify all the time. Usually it’s just because the licensing deal has run out and needs to be renewed. Considering how Green Day songs usually just do not drop from Spotify, especially studio records, I believe this warrants a thread. I don't remember a single time any other Green Day song ever dropping from Spotify other than live versions. As much as we would like to believe that this is just band coming to their senses and realizing how godawful Here Comes the Shark is, it's still up on YouTube and honestly, it's not their worst song ever. That title goes to Forever Now. My theory is that it's either getting re-released on some album (B-sides and other shitty material album would be great) or they simply don't want to have it officially anywhere anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killjoywhatsername Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 How did they get so lucky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Miko said: Considering how Green Day songs usually just do not drop from Spotify, especially studio records, I believe this warrants a thread. I don't remember a single time any other Green Day song ever dropping from Spotify other than live versions. As much as we would like to believe that this is just band coming to their senses and realizing how godawful Here Comes the Shark is, it's still up on YouTube and honestly, it's not their worst song ever. That title goes to Forever Now. My theory is that it's either getting re-released on some album (B-sides and other shitty material album would be great) or they simply don't want to have it officially anywhere anymore. Forever Now?! Are you insane? Boy, is that an opinion that belongs in the Unpopular Opinions thread. 😲 9 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomniac1984 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Well, in Deezer HCTS is not available in my country (Chile). Fortunately, I "backed up" the song. Also, in this platform "21 Guns Live EP" is not available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miko Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Forever Now?! Are you insane? Boy, is that an opinion that belongs in the Unpopular Opinions thread. 😲 Been there done that too many times. See how incredibly consistent I've been for 6 years? Quote Whole Revolution Radio could be put on this list but if there is one song to choose, it's still definitely Forever Now. Other contenders such as Bang Bang, Still Breathing and Ordinary World are not as bad as Forever Now, but all of them are usually loved in here or Reddit or elsewhere. I don't get it. @PursuitOfEpicness said ''People love it because it's "Epic" but it just doesn't flow well. Some parts are great some are not!'' but I would go even further with Forever Now and say there are no great parts. It's a mess. Quote Forever Now seems to be LOVED here and I absolutely hate it. There is nothing good in that song. Atleast 21 Guns sounded better and those live version.... Quote I still can't fucking stand Forever Now. Everything. From start to end. Especially the end where everything (lyrics, instruments) is complete mess and I can't enjoy it at all. Quote Revolution Radio is by far their worst album ever. It would be a stretch to say there isn't a single song that sounds good (I gotta admit that Still Breathing is really powerful and sad song) but everything just feels so average. I see that Forever Now has some kind of ''this is one of their best'' vibe going around, but that song is going all over the place (just like Dirty Rotten Bastards, in a bad way) and the ending is just a complete mess with those vocals and instrumentals. Overall it's just below the average Green Day. Nothing wrong if you like it, I just can't understand the love. As for the other songs.. Quote I disagree, RevRad doesn't have single good lyric in that album, unless you're Outlaw who is Really freaking out because We live in Troubled Times. Sorry. Can't stand that album. Quote Probably me, since I advocate ''fuck forever now'' movement all the time. Hopefully it's gone forever from setlist. Quote Anyways, Here Comes The Shock is still so fucking awful, almost more awful than Forever Now but thankfully this is a lot shorter so Forever Now can stay as their worst song. Quote I dislike RR Tour more than this. Hearing Forever Now & Jesus of Suburbia back-to-back (or with AI in-between) every night was overwhelming and got stale pretty fucking fast. Yeah, live versions are usually taken away from Spotify or region-blocked. In Finland, you can't listen any Rock and Roll Hall of Fame performances and in Ultimate Green Day Playlist it's only live versions that are missing excluding now Here Comes the Shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Unrelated but just seen someone tweet that Ordinary World is now unavailable on Netflex 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, Miko said: Been there done that too many times. See how incredibly consistent I've been for 6 years? Yeah, live versions are usually taken away from Spotify or region-blocked. In Finland, you can't listen any Rock and Roll Hall of Fame performances and in Ultimate Green Day Playlist it's only live versions that are missing excluding now Here Comes the Shock. I’m gonna guess the song is such a dog it’s not even worth the costs of keeping it on Spotify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomniac1984 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, pacejunkie punk said: I’m gonna guess the song is such a dog it’s not even worth the costs of keeping it on Spotify Let's think about this a little bit more... This is just a mere single. What if this happens to records/studio albums? Can you imagine this for the Lookout Era albums or all the "non popular" GD albums? (Trilogy, FOAM, even Warning) Maybe many GD fans from the 90s had the chance to listen GD Live Eps (CDs, Cassettes, etc) Can all the GD fans from 2010/2020 say the same about it? All of us who listened to these releases know that these records are fantastic, but unavailable to the masses. There are just some used copies around eBay (or similar sites) or Youtube (Just if someone uploaded the content) or illegal "Back ups" (for instance: Torrents) This is why I don't like this measures from music stream sites, even if we speak about a song like Here Comes the Shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThranaM Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Could it be a copyright issue? I've seen similiar situations were songs get removed from big plattforms because of copyright claims from other artist. If that's the case, they can have it. We don't want it anyway 🤷♀️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcj Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I think Here Comes The Shock is great. Time for the shit to hit the fan. 🤪 I'm off, runs for nearest exit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Insomniac1984 said: Let's think about this a little bit more... This is just a mere single. What if this happens to records/studio albums? Can you imagine this for the Lookout Era albums or all the "non popular" GD albums? (Trilogy, FOAM, even Warning) Maybe many GD fans from the 90s had the chance to listen GD Live Eps (CDs, Cassettes, etc) Can all the GD fans from 2010/2020 say the same about it? All of us who listened to these releases know that these records are fantastic, but unavailable to the masses. There are just some used copies around eBay (or similar sites) or Youtube (Just if someone uploaded the content) or illegal "Back ups" (for instance: Torrents) This is why I don't like this measures from music stream sites, even if we speak about a song like Here Comes the Shock. I feel like this is a huge overreaction Because a non-album single that no one really likes or cares about or even really remembers all that much has been removed from spotify, probably just temporarily for copyright reasons, you think this is actually something that might happen to album tracks, or even entire albums?? FOAMF is their most recent album. Regardless of what fans, the label or the band think of it, it's going to stay on spotify. Warning is a beloved Green Day album among fans now, as are the Lookout records. These albums have solid millions of copies worldwide. They're not going to be taken off spotify and the trilogy is just too big and too recent of a project to be taken off and is still loved and listened to by a decent amount of people too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: I feel like this is a huge overreaction Because a non-album single that no one really likes or cares about or even really remembers all that much has been removed from spotify, probably just temporarily for copyright reasons, you think this is actually something that might happen to album tracks, or even entire albums?? FOAMF is their most recent album. Regardless of what fans, the label or the band think of it, it's going to stay on spotify. Warning is a beloved Green Day album among fans now, as are the Lookout records. These albums have solid millions of copies worldwide. They're not going to be taken off spotify and the trilogy is just too big and too recent of a project to be taken off and is still loved and listened to by a decent amount of people too well the label could pull it off Spotify anytime it wants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 12 hours ago, Miko said: Considering how Green Day songs usually just do not drop from Spotify, especially studio records, I believe this warrants a thread. I don't remember a single time any other Green Day song ever dropping from Spotify other than live versions. As much as we would like to believe that this is just band coming to their senses and realizing how godawful Here Comes the Shark is, it's still up on YouTube and honestly, it's not their worst song ever. That title goes to Forever Now. My theory is that it's either getting re-released on some album (B-sides and other shitty material album would be great) or they simply don't want to have it officially anywhere anymore. Um I think you mean the title for worst song goes to The Forgotten. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalo17 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 That's why i prefer my MP3 collection. Pd: forever Now is the BEST green day song of their catalog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miko Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 16 hours ago, The Grohl said: Um I think you mean the title for worst song goes to The Forgotten. Piano ballads are definitely not where Green Day excels at but due to it being a fucking piiano ballad from Green Day, no way it's their worst song. Same with Nightlife, no way their only rap songs gets to be picked as their worst. They atleast tried to do something new and that should always be embraced more. 11 hours ago, Gonzalo17 said: That's why i prefer my MP3 collection. Pd: forever Now is the BEST green day song of their catalog If you're fan of music that offers zero originality and is very safe, then I guess Forever Now can be a good song in that sense. However, its production is way too bad to be ignored. It's a fucking mess towards the end of the song where everything is playing at the same time. Loudness war has always sucked but man does Revolution Radio The Album really suffer from it. Straight up unlistenable garbage. It's now been 2 days and HCTS still hasn't been brought up in Europe. Wazzup with that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 1:50 AM, Miko said: it's not their worst song ever. That title goes to Forever Now. 16 hours ago, Gonzalo17 said:Pd: forever Now is the BEST green day song of their catalog Pd: forever Now is the BEST green day song of their catalog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nopride84 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/13/2023 at 8:50 PM, Miko said: Considering how Green Day songs usually just do not drop from Spotify, especially studio records, I believe this warrants a thread. I don't remember a single time any other Green Day song ever dropping from Spotify other than live versions. As much as we would like to believe that this is just band coming to their senses and realizing how godawful Here Comes the Shark is, it's still up on YouTube and honestly, it's not their worst song ever. That title goes to Forever Now. My theory is that it's either getting re-released on some album (B-sides and other shitty material album would be great) or they simply don't want to have it officially anywhere anymore. While agree forever now isn't that great but the award for worst song has to go to sweet 16. My problem with here comes the shock and the other singles and father of all is tres drums now sound electronic especially when he does rolls it has like a rock band drum sound to the snare it's weird. Also Billie needs to let that vocal effect he's been using since American idiot (or actually maria and warning) go cuz I'm sick of it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Miko Posted March 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2023 10 hours ago, nopride84 said: While agree forever now isn't that great but the award for worst song has to go to sweet 16. My problem with here comes the shock and the other singles and father of all is tres drums now sound electronic especially when he does rolls it has like a rock band drum sound to the snare it's weird. Also Billie needs to let that vocal effect he's been using since American idiot (or actually maria and warning) go cuz I'm sick of it I really don't understand the dislike towards to Sweet 16. It's a cheesy but beautiful love song from Billie to Adrienne and its guitar sound is very unique. Solo is also great with all of woah's during it. I'd say it's pretty harmless and I could name dozens of songs that are by far worse than Sweet 16. One of the biggest problems with Here Comes the Shark is its unoriginality. It's like a computer generated Green Day song with ''rumble in the streets'' and ''bloody murders'' lines being re-used. However, even with all of that, song could've been somewhat enjoyable but the fucking SNIFF. It's the worst idea Billie/Green Day/anyone has ever had. It literally ruins the song to the ground that it's impossible to enjoy it, so that's why I've always preferred my own edit that removes that damn sniff. Vocal effects or drum sound are not even top 5 issues with the song, but I agree that it would be cool to hear clean vocals without any unnecessary filters for a change. Keep the reverb, noise gate and (small) compression but remove everything else. Billie's voice doesn't need it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 35 minutes ago, Miko said: One of the biggest problems with Here Comes the Shark is its unoriginality. It's like a computer generated Green Day song with ''rumble in the streets'' and ''bloody murders'' lines being re-used. However, even with all of that, song could've been somewhat enjoyable but the fucking SNIFF. It's the worst idea Billie/Green Day/anyone has ever had. It literally ruins the song to the ground that it's impossible to enjoy it, so that's why I've always preferred my own edit that removes that damn sniff. I want to like this 1000x. Thank you. That sniff is nails on a chalkboard (especially with headphones) and makes the song completely unlistenable. And I actually believe an AI could have written a better song. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 13 hours ago, nopride84 said: the award for worst song has to go to sweet 16. Totally agree. The leaks from the club shows made it sound great but it's such a disappointment on the album 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Slave To The Network Posted March 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 6:06 AM, The Grohl said: Um I think you mean the title for worst song goes to The Forgotten. Literally the only reason I kind of like that song is because Billie plays the piano on it, and that is a very rare thing to hear on any of their songs. Usually if a song has any piano/keyboard in it, that's Jason Freese. Granted, it's veeeery simple piano, but just the fact that it's Billie playing makes me fangirl a little bit because it's my favorite instrument. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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