Popular Post FOAMfinger Posted January 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2023 52 minutes ago, Mato said: And the wheel goes on.. I'm saying the ''n word'' for attention and making people uncomfortable?? You know what's really uncomfortable? Being a victim of people manipulating your words, putting them out of contest and missing the whole point: especially when it comes to racism, sexism or anything related to those subjects, which I've fought against my whole fucking life, being surrounded by primitive and racist people. It's really scaring me how extreme this has become. It's so extreme that people nowadays don't... like it when others use the n word on a public forum? Bill maher sucks, Green Day is fine and nobody is being cancelled. Idk why you have to be a snowflake and have a meltdown on on a green day fan forum in the year 2023 because people don't like the n word, which has long not been acceptable in the public square. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy1986 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 hours ago, DookieLukie said: Billie also wrote CUNT about that girl who accused his son of sexual assault. Most celebs are democrats for brand but neoliberal at home. It seeps out in their art a lot. How do we know for sure it was about that girl? Article or link? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Mato said: And the wheel goes on.. I'm saying the ''n word'' for attention and making people uncomfortable?? You know what's really uncomfortable? Being a victim of people manipulating your words, putting them out of contest and missing the whole point: especially when it comes to racism, sexism or anything related to those subjects, which I've fought against my whole fucking life, being surrounded by primitive and racist people. It's really scaring me how extreme this has become. You’re the one that made it extreme by accusing everyone here of wanting to cancel them for everything they’ve ever said and done. Not one person here had said that. I thought the discussion up to that point had been pretty reasonable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killjoywhatsername Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 4:08 PM, That Dude said: 1972 is going to exclusively theme songs from that year's tv shows. I'm particularly excited about their take on All In the Family and Sanford and Son. Haha. I would honestly love their take of Sanford and Son over this Edit: made that comment on after reading til this comment without the other pages ages and oh boy do I stand by it but also Maher sucks and my more of my thoughts are… its sad to see this these is the most exciting news from them especially after the mess of FOAM marketing was and the good chunk of the album was. No wonder no one can be happy with given this vs anything the band has given in the past and bands older than then them and around their era are still giving. It’s hard not to compare tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuous Xman Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said: Idk why people are having such extreme reactions (including saying the n word just to get a response from people), to people saying that they don't like Bill Maher. Nobody actually really cares about the problematic stuff the band may have done in the past, especially not enough to cancel them for it. Idc that the band has used the n word in a song, in the context it was used I'm fine with it and I'm not in favour of limiting people in what they can or can't write in their lyrics (although any white guy using the n word in their music in the 2020s will always be at least a bit sus). But I don't think it's hard to just generally avoid using the n word since it obviously makes a lot of people uncomfortable. Like there's nothing wrong with just referring to it as "the n word" but if you actually spell out the word on a public forum, you're just doing that to upset people and get a reaction which is honestly just pathetic I could care less about them using n____r. I wasn't even shocked when I first heard it on american eulogy. Billie was using it in a political approach which was fine with me. It wasn't like a johnny rebel song situation. Its a word and its purpose in history was more then just saying slavery. The problem is the entitlement that people feel when they can just freely say it. Because they want to be part of a certain group of people since for a lot of them its like being popular. Not understanding its a lot more crap then just having a party. The younger generation is really removed from what the purpose of the word was made for and why. I don't agree with my own people saying it, however its something that isn't going anywhere. I don't agree with it being used period, however again its not going anywhere and unfortunately that's the way it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThranaM Posted January 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2023 Guys? The intro was cool. The sound was crisp and heavy, let that be a taste of what is to come. Let's leave it at that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 6 hours ago, billy1986 said: How do we know for sure it was about that girl? Article or link? Common sense. What a coincidence it would be to write a song alluding to her name and calling that person a cunt without thinking of her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted January 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 hours ago, killjoywhatsername said: its sad to see this these is the most exciting news from them especially after the mess of FOAM marketing was and the good chunk of the album was. No wonder no one can be happy with given this vs anything the band has given in the past and bands older than then them and around their era are still giving. It’s hard not to compare tbh. When you think about it, the best things we’ve gotten since 2018 have been The Longshot and The Network. Not a whole lot of great output from Green Day, but the side projects have gotten us through 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Grohl Posted January 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 minute ago, pacejunkie punk said: When you think about it, the best things we’ve gotten since 2018 have been The Longshot and The Network. Not a whole lot of great output from Green Day, but the side projects have gotten us through Now we just need Foxies to round it out 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, The Grohl said: Now we just need Foxies to round it out My hopes are hanging on a Pinhead Gunpowder reunion and tour 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Flashback Posted January 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2023 Here in full: Sounds great to me! 😍 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pcj Posted January 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: When you think about it, the best things we’ve gotten since 2018 have been The Longshot and The Network. Not a whole lot of great output from Green Day, but the side projects have gotten us through Covid and lockdown would maybe have hindered developments. However, if I may add, the amazing cover album 'No Fun Mondays' from Billie Joe. And possibly 'Welcome To My Panic' containing 8 excellent covers of GD classics? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, pcj said: Covid and lockdown would maybe have hindered developments. However, if I may add, the amazing cover album 'No Fun Mondays' from Billie Joe. And possibly 'Welcome To My Panic' containing 8 excellent covers of GD classics? Welcome to my Panic 100% that was awesome. NFM was essential during lockdown but at the end of the day, it’s an album of pretty ordinary covers 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montclare Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I follow Bill Maher on FB. This was his post on it. All of the comments on GD were positive, which was nice to see. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 53 minutes ago, Montclare said: I follow Bill Maher on FB. This was his post on it. All of the comments on GD were positive, which was nice to see. Love this comment: Quote "Just Remember everyone I’m the one who Wrote The Original Blvd Of Broken Dreams. Not their song. My version. My Title, conveniently lifted and used Asap by The band that needed inspiration from a real dude who made magic in Las Vegas 2004-2006 Studio 58. . People who know know. I remember the day the producers told me Your Boy just took your Song Title. Still waiting on that check. It’s perfect legal to take song titles. It’s just people need to know that it was Ripped. That title in that time was all mine. You should have just called it stairway to heaven. Because you had recognized my genius. You have no Clue of what it’s really like to walk along the Blvd Of Broken Dreams as you Broke the SHI+ out of mine." Haha. Somebody tell this joker that the title came from a James Dean poster that existed long before whatever shitty song they claim to have written. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomniac1984 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Flashback said: Here in full: Sounds great to me! 😍 I hope 1972 will have a sound production/mix/whatever like in this intro... it sounds pretty solid!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Christian's Inferno! Posted January 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2023 In case anyone had doubts about Bill Maher being a piece of shit regarding trans people, I just saw a clip filled with lies about trans/gender stuff being talked about to young children in schools. Lies like how instead of teaching kids about colours, they talk about pronouns and queer stuff, and that they're telling them they can identify as a tree. Schools aren't these far left institutions that these people are making them out to be. Kids are not being told "boys can menstruate" and "girls have penises". This misinformation is everywhere, there are even lies about schools putting litterboxes in bathrooms for people who identify as catgender. Like it's insane how many people just hear this stuff and believe it without even thinking about it 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maddie86 Posted January 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said: In case anyone had doubts about Bill Maher being a piece of shit regarding trans people, I just saw a clip filled with lies about trans/gender stuff being talked about to young children in schools. Lies like how instead of teaching kids about colours, they talk about pronouns and queer stuff, and that they're telling them they can identify as a tree. Schools aren't these far left institutions that these people are making them out to be. Kids are not being told "boys can menstruate" and "girls have penises". This misinformation is everywhere, there are even lies about schools putting litterboxes in bathrooms for people who identify as catgender. Like it's insane how many people just hear this stuff and believe it without even thinking about it It really is disgusting, he's a horrible person and this is the last thing trans people need right now. Constant lies and attacks from conservatives really do put trans people in danger. Obviously Green Day does not align with his views on the subject, but I wish they would make that explicitly clear after working with him for this project 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 There is absolutely no way that a band, or even an individual, could function to do anything if they refused to work with anyone who had ever said or done something they disagreed work. You may find his views his repellent but that’s free speech. He’s free to say it, you are free to say you think he’s wrong. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Maddie86 said: It really is disgusting, he's a horrible person and this is the last thing trans people need right now. Constant lies and attacks from conservatives really do put trans people in danger. Obviously Green Day does not align with his views on the subject, but I wish they would make that explicitly clear after working with him for this project This is 100% what I want them to do too. They don’t have to do it, and they most likely won’t do it, but it would be SO good if they could call him out on his hateful transphobic bullshit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddie86 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 59 minutes ago, jengd said: There is absolutely no way that a band, or even an individual, could function to do anything if they refused to work with anyone who had ever said or done something they disagreed work. You may find his views his repellent but that’s free speech. He’s free to say it, you are free to say you think he’s wrong. I never said he doesn't have the right to say it, but when it comes to free speech a lot of people seem to forget that words have consequences, and Maher is using his words to weaponize hatred towards transgender people in a world where we're (yes, I am trans) already struggling to survive. I'm just saying I'd expect more from Green Day, they're the band who will go on stage and chant "no trump, no kkk, no fascist USA", yet here they are working with someone who has similar views on trans people as these fascist conservatives. And I'm not using the word fascist lightly here, Billie will talk shit about Ted Cruz, whose state is trying to criminalize parents who let their children transition, even if it's just a social transition with nothing medical going on, Texas wants to take that child away from their parents. Texas also wants to make a list of all trans people in the state, that is some straight up Nazi shit right there. States all over the US are attempting to strip trans people of their rights, and honestly it makes me scared to travel, and I'm always hesitant to use a public restroom because conservatives are trying to convince women that trans people are only in those bathrooms to rape them. I'm just sick of all this shit and Maher is just adding fuel to the fire. How would you feel if Green Day contributed music to a show where the host has racist, homophobic, or sexist views? This shit is fucking absurd. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I’m not saying they do or should agree with him, I certainly don’t agree with what you cite above, all I’m saying is that for better or worse, free speech works both ways. I believe part of the problem can be laid at the feet of the press and their hysterical reporting of these issues rather than calm and rational debate. We had a situation in Scottish education a number of years ago where sex educators in schools HAD to answer any child who asked that no, there was no such thing as gay sex because those were the rules for them at the time. When there was a move to modernise this clearly archaic regulation so that teachers could actually be helpful and inform, one side of the argument portrayed the change as virtually trying to convert children towards homosexuality which was clearly bonkers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FOAMfinger Posted January 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2023 Freedom of speech is not freedom from social consequences for that speech. Nobody is calling for the arrest of bill maher. Nobody wants to send him to the gulags. People want him to change his views and be a better person. Short of that, people can and will criticize his fre speech with their free speech. The government can't censor someone for their religious beliefs, they can't stop the press from criticizing them, they cannot arrest you for speaking out. Society, however, can and should criticize those that cause harm to others. Harmful beliefs won't get you arrested, they will get you criticized. It's not cancel culture, this is how a society works. I would just like it for people to understand that nobody here appears to want to throw bill maher in a cell to rot. Using your freedom of speech to spread misinformation is an action worthy of criticism. This is my belief and I will use my freedom of speech to say as much. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redundantuserjinxboy Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Damn y'all really gave this thread 4 pages? You guys must be bored 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOAMfinger Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I've never been more bored. *Pokes Green Day* come on, do something! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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