Popular Post GRNSTR10 Posted March 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2022 11 hours ago, Gdfan2007 said: The failing out thing was resolved before the trilogy. Post AI, likely pre 21cb. Yeah, Billie talks about it in this interview with Guitar World from 2012: Quote Cavallo was Green Day’s producer from Dookie onward (although his involvement in 2000’s Warning was minimal). But he fell away from the fold for 21st Century Breakdown, which was produced by Butch Vig. So how did Cavallo get back in the picture? “By apologizing,” Armstrong deadpans before dissolving into laughter. “He just wanted to mend things. We had sort of a strained relationship after American Idiot. I don’t really know why. I don’t think he even knows why. It just turned ugly for a while. But we started having talks together again, and he said how much he really wanted to do the record. I started getting into playing him demos again, and he started champing at the bit to produce. So it was just a slow process of rebuilding the friendship and the relationship again.” 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted March 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2022 I wonder if Rob fully expected to produce the follow up after his success with AI and when that didn't happen there was some bad feeling. I know the band are notorious for not communicating, and they had that drama with Linda Perry when she assumed she was producing 21CB and she wasn't but no one told her. Rob may have gone through a similar thing, thinking he was producing but not being directly told he wasn't, just learning about Butch Vig through the grapevine. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Strychnine Twitch Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 You don't record only an Ep at Abbey Road. So I still think that it is an album. I also haven't changed my mind that the album is planned to be released around September - most probably with an advance single release in summer to give the fans a taste of what's coming. One thing I'm really sure is this will be a great album. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve46 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Green Day feat. Beatles - Abbey Road Pt. 2 coming 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalo17 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I prefer to wait for a Rob Cavallo produced album than having yet a butch Walker one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy1986 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Bring back Butch Vig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillBreathing Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Could we maybe expect an announcement on Friday ??? 👀👀 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted March 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2022 Thinking about the promotion that will eventually happen with this album is it too soon for them to be honest about FOAM? Usually by the next release they're ready to admit what went wrong with the previous one. The interviews for FOAM felt so dishonest in the way they praised it I wonder if we'll get more this time about it or if they'll pretend it never happened. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudley dawson Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 19 hours ago, Q-Man said: Don't get me wrong, I love Rob and am thrilled that he is likely coming back. BUT Butch Vig's production on 21CB was another level. I'd kill for that again. Eh I kind of disagree on this. 21CB was the start of filtering BJ’s voice to hell, and I don’t think the wall of sound approach used on it suited them all that well (not saying I don’t enjoy the album, but it’s not one of my favorites, especially sonically). Now take a look at Rob’s output with them, and the only questionably produced project is the trilogy. The rest is A+ work from all angles. I think Rob just “gets” the band and knows how to get the best sounding (and just best period) songs from them. 1 hour ago, billy1986 said: Bring back Butch Vig Hard pass 2 hours ago, Gonzalo17 said: I prefer to wait for a Rob Cavallo produced album than having yet a butch Walker one I’d prefer no album at all than have Butch W stain their legacy again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jankowski576 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Thinking about the promotion that will eventually happen with this album is it too soon for them to be honest about FOAM? Usually by the next release they're ready to admit what went wrong with the previous one. The interviews for FOAM felt so dishonest in the way they praised it I wonder if we'll get more this time about it or if they'll pretend it never happened. I think so, I doubt they’ll bash it to hell but I’m sure they’ll say it was a fun project that they were ready to move on from 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Clockwise Posted March 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2022 Green Day don't have to apologize for albums you don't like. 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GDFan2019 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, pacejunkie punk said: Thinking about the promotion that will eventually happen with this album is it too soon for them to be honest about FOAM? Usually by the next release they're ready to admit what went wrong with the previous one. The interviews for FOAM felt so dishonest in the way they praised it I wonder if we'll get more this time about it or if they'll pretend it never happened. 5 years later: @BilleJoeArmstrong Father of All… (2027 Otis Mix) 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 30 minutes ago, Clockwise said: Green Day don't have to apologize for albums you don't like. Who are you talking to? If it was me, did I say I didn't like it? I was just pointing out that they have a tendency to do this. In the RevRad interviews, they talked about how the Trilogy albums were a lot for people to absorb. During the Trilogy they said 21CB was a bit over the top and stressful. During FOAM they said they didn't want to do long or feel good songs anymore (references to what they did for RevRad). So I was wondering if we'll finally get to hear their unfiltered thoughts about FOAM given the reception it got in general. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwen Stacy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, dudley dawson said: 21CB was the start of filtering BJ’s voice to hell, and I don’t think the wall of sound approach used on it suited them all that well All subjective but I thought wall of sound was complimentary for 21CB since they were going for that 70’s-arena rock type of style. I like hearing Green Day sound big. What I didn’t like about that album’s production is a little more ineffable, everything (vocals and instruments) just sounds so computery crisp. I’d love to hear what that album would’ve sounded like with analog production. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Clockwise said: Green Day don't have to apologize for albums you don't like. No musician has to, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 46 minutes ago, Gwen Stacy said: All subjective but I thought wall of sound was complimentary for 21CB since they were going for that 70’s-arena rock type of style. I like hearing Green Day sound big. What I didn’t like about that album’s production is a little more ineffable, everything (vocals and instruments) just sounds so computery crisp. I’d love to hear what that album would’ve sounded like with analog production. But the production is what got us all excited for MOOTIK but we all know how that turned out 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sophieduf Posted March 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2022 Soo Greg told me he'll be in London for a while, but unsurprisingly he didn't answer my question on whether 1972 will be an ep or an album 😅 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudley dawson Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Clockwise said: Green Day don't have to apologize for albums you don't like. Sure, they don’t have to, but they probably will considering it got a worse reception than the trilogy from the fanbase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted March 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, sophieduf said: Soo Greg told me he'll be in London for a while, but unsurprisingly he didn't answer my question on whether 1972 will be an ep or an album 😅 And he is documenting everything of course that I hope we will someday get to see 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Clockwise Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: Who are you talking to? If it was me, did I say I didn't like it? I was just pointing out that they have a tendency to do this. In the RevRad interviews, they talked about how the Trilogy albums were a lot for people to absorb. During the Trilogy they said 21CB was a bit over the top and stressful. During FOAM they said they didn't want to do long or feel good songs anymore (references to what they did for RevRad). So I was wondering if we'll finally get to hear their unfiltered thoughts about FOAM given the reception it got in general. This idea that the band secretly doesn't like a record they released and promoted fairly heavily feels a lot like fan fulfillment and not based in any reality. Saying that the interviews felt dishonest is just such a bizarre thought to me, and it's an idea that's pretty prevalent around here. Re-appraising a record in hindsight is one thing, but this notion that they were promoting a record they didn't truly believe in is just ridiculous. That's just not what Green Day does. They very clearly were excited for FOAM and seemed quite proud of it. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, dudley dawson said: Eh I kind of disagree on this. 21CB was the start of filtering BJ’s voice to hell, and I don’t think the wall of sound approach used on it suited them all that well (not saying I don’t enjoy the album, but it’s not one of my favorites, especially sonically). Now take a look at Rob’s output with them, and the only questionably produced project is the trilogy. The rest is A+ work from all angles. I think Rob just “gets” the band and knows how to get the best sounding (and just best period) songs from them. Hard pass I’d prefer no album at all than have Butch W stain their legacy again. The filter has been used since before Nimrod hell listen to American Idiot acapellas filters galore and the use of the vocals and the wall of sound for 21st was intentional 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 6 hours ago, steve46 said: Green Day feat. Beatles - Abbey Road Pt. 2 coming 😂 What if Green Day pulled a Panicland and recorded as if they WERE the Beatles? And Paul gave it the blessing, allowing them to actually release it under the name because it's that good?????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Billie Joes Eyelids Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 I don't think there will be any announcements anytime soon, because they are obviously still recording. We're just going to have to be patient. Obviously the guys are excited for it. We didn't get any hints so far ahead with FOAM did we? The drawn out hinting seems different. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 I agree it will be later than we think but also it would have to come out this year though right, since the 1972 reference has more meaning as a fiftieth birthday year. They're going to want a new album to promote once the summer festival season is over. Right now they have shows through September. Oct-Nov makes sense. I don't know how common it is to release an album in December, it's a little late for holiday gifts. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redundantuserjinxboy Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I think having rob back into the fold is an exciting prospect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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