1972 project speculation thread

[devilskind92]

29 minutes ago, Austrian_Insomniac said:

Bc u have to be always critical.. and say shit when they did shit.. and i am also a big green day Fan..  but there fucking job is to deliver this time.. and they owe it to us.. everyone saying  they owe us nothing is kissing their ass.. its their job like another one is truck driver.. 

I don't remember the band signing an employment contract with each and every fan meaning they have to deliver on our expectations as employers or else we can just fire them.

They don't owe us anything. They do whatever they want and if we're not happy we can just not buy their records and stop listening. That doesn't mean we can't criticize them or voice our opinions and desires, but saying they owe us is extremely entitled.

[nopride84]

1 hour ago, Rob said:

Not really. And ripping off other bands isn’t the first line of defense I’d go for gd. Arguably their most famous riff (AI) was ripped off note for note from Dillinger four. Even the opening to wake me up when September ends was ripped off from some independent band I can’t remember off the top of my head. Holiday too. And boulevard of broken dreams was ripped off from wonderwall. Hell the guitar solo for 21 guns was ripped off from the fucking full house theme song ffs 🤣

Oh someone like to watch YouTube videos so You're thinking of my name is mud by Primus for wake me up lmao independent band lmaooooo  We're talking about blink what's my age again pointing having similar riffs to basket and jar  that's all . Every band does it even the Beatles 

[alienlifeform]

2 minutes ago, nopride84 said:

Oh someone like to watch YouTube videos so You're thinking of my name is mud by Primus for wake me up lmao independent band lmaooooo  We're talking about blink what's my age again pointing having similar riffs to basket and jar  that's all . Every band does it even the Beatles 

Most of so called ripoffs from Green Day are kinda bullshit, if they were really plagiarisms the band would have been sued 

But... hahha WMUWSE is really the same thing as this:

Not that I care

 

[Rob]

37 minutes ago, Ryan said:

You're talking about Blink as if there's a shred of "blow me away" good music anywhere in their entire catalogue. 

Again, subjective, but enema-self titled were full of blow me away moments. Even neighborhoods had flashes of promise, but was ultimately hindered by its production and the frankensteined way they wrote and recorded the album. The only truly awful albums they put out were the two skiba ones, and even those shit on foam and the trilogy imo. Cheshire cat is just as mid as 39/smooth. And dude ranch and kerplunk are more or less on the same level to me, with kerplunk maybe taking the slight edge. Depends on the day lol. 

22 minutes ago, nopride84 said:

Oh someone like to watch YouTube videos so You're thinking of my name is mud by Primus for wake me up lmao independent band lmaooooo  We're talking about blink what's my age again pointing having similar riffs to basket and jar  that's all . Every band does it even the Beatles 

It’s the bass line that was derivative from jar not the guitar riff. I believe. Even so there’s a pretty distinct difference. 

22 minutes ago, nopride84 said:

Oh someone like to watch YouTube videos so You're thinking of my name is mud by Primus for wake me up lmao independent band lmaooooo  We're talking about blink what's my age again pointing having similar riffs to basket and jar  that's all . Every band does it even the Beatles 

No I was thinking of that mark curry song that other poster above me posted. I remember seeing the comparison years ago, but forgot who and what song they ripped it from.

[Little Boy Named Booze]

[BratReject23]

I can not take seriously an opinion from anyone who thinks that enema album is a really good album and 21cb is a mediocre one. 

[Lindsay]

Final warning for everyone who's off topic, this is your one and only verbal warning. Please get back on topic about the new album - any posts off topic after this will be issued a suspension. Thanks.

[suffoKate]

hey what amplifiers are they using for this album?

 

[That Dude]

How about an album cover with Billie, Mike and Tre just standing in front of a  #189bcc blue (electric blue) background?   I personally think that would be like warning - terrible.  Haha.   And I hope and speculate that the credits of GREEN DAY 14 will be 100% Billie, Mike and Tre, and that similar songs won't ruin those credits later on.   Folks are starting to bicker about another punk band that is about to use a TON of outside writers for the third album in a row.    Can those guys not write songs anymore?  Or is the record company just trying to pay people simply by slapping their name in the credits?    I personally don't have a problem with outside writers if the results are good, but I don't think it would work well with Green Day.      GREEN DAY 14 - could be called anything at this point, I guess.

      

[Tomcat20]

55 minutes ago, Radiation Fear said:

hey what amplifiers are they using for this album?

 

Since '21st Century Breakdown,' I haven't felt the Green Day sound as rich during live shows. Could it be because they've used different amplifiers since then? So, I really hope they return to this setup for this record.

[ekim]

3 hours ago, Austrian_Insomniac said:

better ryan tedder than doing a shitty electric song without guitars with avicii lol

That was billie being featured on the late avicii record a little different from blink letting pop tart write their songs for them lol

[Jankowski576]

6 minutes ago, Tomcat20 said:

Since '21st Century Breakdown,' I haven't felt the Green Day sound as rich during live shows. Could it be because they've used different amplifiers since then? So, I really hope they return to this setup for this record.

I believe they’re not using live amps anymore and it definitely doesn’t sound as good. A lot of kempers and amp sims can be great, but seems to have a much clangier sound coming out of PAs.

 

in all the teaser videos billie is using AI & 21CB amps (park, Marshall idiot head, custom hiwatt)

[OldWhatsHisFace]

6 hours ago, ekim said:

doesn't make business sense, for their label and green day

I may have missed this, but wasn't Father Of All their last album for their contract with their label? The way Billie mentioned it in that interview made it sound like they weren't going to renew the contract! Is this their first independent album? 👀

[alienlifeform]

Just now, Old-What's-His-Face said:

I may have missed this, but wasn't Father Of All their last album for their contract with their label? The way Billie mentioned it in that interview made it sound like they weren't going to renew the contract! Is this their first independent album? 👀

they are still with warner. 

[pcj]

2 hours ago, Austrian_Insomniac said:

Bc u have to be always critical.. and say shit when they did shit.. and i am also a big green day Fan..  but there fucking job is to deliver this time.. and they owe it to us.. everyone saying  they owe us nothing is kissing their ass.. its their job like another one is truck driver.. 

The best way I can respectfully respond is to first ask you have you seen the film. 'Turn it Around, The Story of East Bay Punk'. Here is the trailer,  Idon't think the full movie is on YouTube.

If you haven't you need to watch it. Punk rock starting out at 924 Gilmam Street. It is non-conformist, characterized by short formats, fast tempos, distorted riffs, stripped-down instrumentation, and shouted lyrics. A fuck you attitude. If you loved it, cool.  if you didn't well that's your problem. It was a way of life, a community.

You became one with GD, their music, and their lyrics, it became your life forever. They owe us absolutely nothing, they don't have to give us fuck all, and no I'm not kissing their arse. And we owe them absolutely everything.

Their job, as you put it, which is like no other job, is to play their music when they want to and, in their way, and share it with us when they are good and ready not before. We have no say in the matter. My responsibility is to listen to their music every day and go see them live at every opportunity, total dedication for life.

That's the only way I can explain it. I love them so so much, and they have given me everything I ever wanted.

 

[GDFan2019]

42 minutes ago, Jankowski576 said:

I believe they’re not using live amps anymore and it definitely doesn’t sound as good. A lot of kempers and amp sims can be great, but seems to have a much clangier sound coming out of PAs.

 

in all the teaser videos billie is using AI & 21CB amps (park, Marshall idiot head, custom hiwatt)

In the latest teaser for the October 24th single, the song sounds very loud at the end!!!!

[OldWhatsHisFace]

3 hours ago, nflsbest26 said:

but there fucking job is to deliver this time.. and they owe it to us..

I dont think they owe us shit??? They're just some dudes who like playing music. I think they can make whatever they want, whenever they want. It's also Taylor Swifts job to deliver music, but you don't get mad when she makes something you don't like. 

They teased 1972 because they most likely felt pressured to "deliver this time," but they probably realized "hey, if we take our time we'll make something better than this." 

At the end of the day, you're allowed to not like something. People don't owe it to you to make something you enjoy. I enjoyed Father Of All because it was a Green Day album and I was just excited to get new music from the boys, regardless of what it sounds like. I just like hearing new music from my favorite band. If you don't like it you don't have to listen to it, and you definitely don't need to be so negative. 
 

[petros]

Yeah they don't owe us anything but they have been pretty shite for many years now so the kinda own it to themselves to come out with some interesting music for a change.

[PluckyJokerhead]

1 hour ago, Jankowski576 said:

I believe they’re not using live amps anymore and it definitely doesn’t sound as good. A lot of kempers and amp sims can be great, but seems to have a much clangier sound coming out of PAs.

Still Pete and Meat live and Hans (Billie's guitar tech) has said they'll never go digital. 

I think during the trilogy era they dialled back the gain a bit to match those albums and it seems like they've stuck with that since then. For AI stuff onwards with a P90 it sounds fantastic but I do think on stuff from Dookie etc it was definitely a lot more representative of the albums before.

If this is an album they're taking seriously I'm sure they'll make sure it sounds as good live as it deserves to 👌

[That Dude]

Welcome to page 601.  Hyper focused on topic at hand and getting to the nitty gritty about amplifiers and stuff.      I've been....waiting a long time for this....thread to change name I'm destined....for anything but a baaaaaan.

Dumbpost / color me duded / no fake track lists / on the tip of my tongue

 

[GDFan2019]

21 minutes ago, Old-What's-His-Face said:

I dont think they owe us shit??? They're just some dudes who like playing music. I think they can make whatever they want, whenever they want. It's also Taylor Swifts job to deliver music, but you don't get mad when she makes something you don't like. 

They teased 1972 because they most likely felt pressured to "deliver this time," but they probably realized "hey, if we take our time we'll make something better than this." 

At the end of the day, you're allowed to not like something. People don't owe it to you to make something you enjoy. I enjoyed Father Of All because it was a Green Day album and I was just excited to get new music from the boys, regardless of what it sounds like. I just like hearing new music from my favorite band. If you don't like it you don't have to listen to it, and you definitely don't need to be so negative. 
 

And as far as we know, 1972 was most likely just supposed to be a 6 song EP. We started hearing those rumors around the beginning of December 2021, and so I started this thread (Originally titled Album 14 Speculation Thread), And then on December 19th, those rumors were confirmed!!!!

[DookieLukie]

Imagine if you told your doctor they were doing a bad job and they said “I don’t owe you anything.” People on here are delusional because of their parasocial relationships with the band.

[GDFan2019]

2 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Imagine if you told your doctor they were doing a bad job and they said “I don’t owe you anything.” People on here are delusional because of their parasocial relationships with the band.

And it's all about preference!! There are people that happen to really like FOAM, myself included!!!! And I'm sure the new album will have its haters, but you can never win with those people. They try something new, then the haters will criticize them for not going back to their old sound. They bring back their old sound, they get criticized for being stuck in the past!!!!

[Christian's Inferno!]

6 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Imagine if you told your doctor they were doing a bad job and they said “I don’t owe you anything.” People on here are delusional because of their parasocial relationships with the band.

Imagine actually thinking this is comparable in any way. Jesus christ, dude

[Jankowski576]

29 minutes ago, PluckyJokerhead said:

Still Pete and Meat live and Hans (Billie's guitar tech) has said they'll never go digital. 

I think during the trilogy era they dialled back the gain a bit to match those albums and it seems like they've stuck with that since then. For AI stuff onwards with a P90 it sounds fantastic but I do think on stuff from Dookie etc it was definitely a lot more representative of the albums before.

If this is an album they're taking seriously I'm sure they'll make sure it sounds as good live as it deserves to 👌

I know this was said, butttt at the same time Larry Livermore mentioned on the recent tour that he couldn’t hear any of the set from the side stage because the band uses all in-ears and there are no miked up cabinets anymore. Combined with the clangier sound I’m more making a guess rather than anything I know for sure