GDFan2019 Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 11:44 PM, pacejunkie punk said: Thinking about how this album could be not so much American Idiot part two, which was a coming of age story, kind of “life during wartime” thing, but 21st Century Breakdown part two checking in on the further deterioration of society. American Dream and “The American dream is killing me” evoke these lyrics: “Oh dream, America dream, I can’t even sleep from the light’s early dawn Oh scream, America scream, believe what you see from heroes and cons” 21CB contains some of his most brilliant and insightful lyrics. Can we just talk about the clever way he turns the national anthem on its head when he says “from the light’s early dawn”? In the Star Spangled Banner you wake up and see the flag in the daylight and it inspires hope (“Oh say can you see, by the dawn’s early light”) Flipping “dawn’s early light” to “light’s early dawn” because the narrator is up all night with worry and feeling hopeless is such a subtle but powerful statement. He does bring the hope back at the end with See The Light, calling back to the theme. 21CB is packed with goodies like this. I’m excited for American Dream and the ways in which he might play around with these ideas in a way that feels current. Expand For American Dream being the theme here, I wonder why they went with pink and black, instead of red, white and blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PluckyJokerhead Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 12:03 AM, GDFan2019 said: For American Dream being the theme here, I wonder why they went with pink and black, instead of red, white and blue Expand Right now we still don't know for sure how much pink is involved, I'm thinking it's just an accent/it'll be the colour of the Green Day logo and the rest is black and white which fits pretty well with the dreary broken America vibe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 12:03 AM, GDFan2019 said: For American Dream being the theme here, I wonder why they went with pink and black, instead of red, white and blue Expand A little too on the nose maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Disciple Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 12:03 AM, GDFan2019 said: For American Dream being the theme here, I wonder why they went with pink and black, instead of red, white and blue Expand It's the punk way On 10/1/2023 at 11:44 PM, pacejunkie punk said: Thinking about how this album could be not so much American Idiot part two, which was a coming of age story, kind of “life during wartime” thing, but 21st Century Breakdown part two checking in on the further deterioration of society. American Dream and “The American dream is killing me” evoke these lyrics: “Oh dream, America dream, I can’t even sleep from the light’s early dawn Oh scream, America scream, believe what you see from heroes and cons” 21CB contains some of his most brilliant and insightful lyrics. Can we just talk about the clever way he turns the national anthem on its head when he says “from the light’s early dawn”? In the Star Spangled Banner you wake up and see the flag in the daylight and it inspires hope (“Oh say can you see, by the dawn’s early light”) Flipping “dawn’s early light” to “light’s early dawn” because the narrator is up all night with worry and feeling hopeless is such a subtle but powerful statement. He does bring the hope back at the end with See The Light, calling back to the theme. 21CB is packed with goodies like this. I’m excited for American Dream and the ways in which he might play around with these ideas in a way that feels current. Expand You just articulated everything I was feeling but couldn't...I'm looking forward to American Dream as well! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GDFan2019 Posted October 2, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2023 Some of you guys didn't think Billie would dive into politics again, but I think we're in for an epic political album!!!!! 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Little Boy Named Booze Posted October 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2023 The album has leaked it's about how Brit changed their mind and it's all anti-vax, anti-abortion and pro trump. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nflsbest26 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 I love the vibe of tonight’s message boards. Last night there was so much pessimism. Time for the new era! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 12:43 AM, nflsbest26 said: I love the vibe of tonight’s message boards. Last night there was so much pessimism. Time for the new era! Expand LOL I was starting to panic when they posted that CFL Halftime show announcement. I was like. "THIS CAN'T POSSIBLY BE THE THING THEY WERE TEASING ON ISGREENDAYAWAKE.COM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 12:47 AM, GDFan2019 said: LOL I was starting to panic when they posted that CFL Halftime show announcement. I was like. "THIS CAN'T POSSIBLY BE THE THING THEY WERE TEASING ON ISGREENDAYAWAKE.COM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Expand When that bullshit instagram account greenday_info posted that the CFL news wasn't the official news I was scared he was lying lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post suffoKate Posted October 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2023 I mean, yeah, 43 grams of saturated fats is kinda a lot, but it’s not gonna really KILL someone’s who’s eating it! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 We now have enough teasers to make an album!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jankowski576 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 I have a feeling 1981 will be “she’s a rebel” ish of this album - imagine if they played that song as the first kick off to American idiot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AnonymWarnerGermany Posted October 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2023 We're in for an epic new era of GD 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rev Posted October 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 11:44 PM, pacejunkie punk said: Thinking about how this album could be not so much American Idiot part two, which was a coming of age story, kind of “life during wartime” thing, but 21st Century Breakdown part two checking in on the further deterioration of society. American Dream and “The American dream is killing me” evoke these lyrics: “Oh dream, America dream, I can’t even sleep from the light’s early dawn Oh scream, America scream, believe what you see from heroes and cons” 21CB contains some of his most brilliant and insightful lyrics. Can we just talk about the clever way he turns the national anthem on its head when he says “from the light’s early dawn”? In the Star Spangled Banner you wake up and see the flag in the daylight and it inspires hope (“Oh say can you see, by the dawn’s early light”) Flipping “dawn’s early light” to “light’s early dawn” because the narrator is up all night with worry and feeling hopeless is such a subtle but powerful statement. He does bring the hope back at the end with See The Light, calling back to the theme. 21CB is packed with goodies like this. I’m excited for American Dream and the ways in which he might play around with these ideas in a way that feels current. Expand I love how you broke that down. Really helps remind us just how stellar of an album 21st really is. Top tier writing. Thanks for the 21st Century "Breakdown". 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420thedoctor69 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 I’ve been seeing a lot of websites and stuff refer to the album as Sweet American Dream. Any validity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuous Xman Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 9:28 PM, That Dude said: It's not their best album, but it's better than Dookie, Insomniac, Breakdown, 39, Kerplunk and Dos. Expand ............Where's is the price is right sound when you get the answer WRONG!!!!!!!! On 10/2/2023 at 2:08 AM, 420thedoctor69 said: I’ve been seeing a lot of websites and stuff refer to the album as Sweet American Dream. Any validity? Expand At this point I think its more then likely true. I personally was thinking the song would have that title and the song was the title of the album. But hey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted October 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 2:08 AM, 420thedoctor69 said: I’ve been seeing a lot of websites and stuff refer to the album as Sweet American Dream. Any validity? Expand Pretty sure that was just a misinterpretation and part of the “wake me up” conceit. You hit Snooze for a wake up call, enter your info and it said “Sweet (American) Dreams”. A “Sweet dreams” message because you’re going back to sleep with a reference to American Dream (the song) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Where do you guys think this album will fall in your ranking of the Green Day albums? I know we're all pretty much locked in to our Top Three albums at this point in the game, but can a new record still shatter your #4 spot? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sanity Loan Posted October 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 2:49 AM, That Dude said: Where do you guys think this album will fall in your ranking of the Green Day albums? I know we're all pretty much locked in to our Top Three albums at this point in the game, but can a new record still shatter your #4 spot? Expand How can anyone possibly answer that? 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Flynn Posted October 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2023 I think it'll rank between 1st and 14th place, that's just me though. 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suffoKate Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 2:49 AM, That Dude said: Where do you guys think this album will fall in your ranking of the Green Day albums? I know we're all pretty much locked in to our Top Three albums at this point in the game, but can a new record still shatter your #4 spot? Expand Above cigarettes and valentines, but below 1972. Maybe tied with international super hits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 4:50 PM, GDFan2019 said: Chris Dugan I think mixed FOAM Expand Tchad Blake I think actually On 10/2/2023 at 3:10 AM, Radiation Fear said: Above cigarettes and valentines, but below 1972. Maybe tied with international super hits. Expand C&V is easily Green Day’s best work On 10/2/2023 at 2:59 AM, Sanity Loan said: How can anyone possibly answer that? Expand Easy. It’s below C&V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 2:59 AM, Sanity Loan said: How can anyone possibly answer that? Expand I guess to rephrase is do you THINK you will really love this album, really hate it or something between? But a ranking between 1 and 14 will sufice. Haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudley dawson Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 3:42 AM, That Dude said: I guess to rephrase is do you THINK you will really love this album, really hate it or something between? But a ranking between 1 and 14 will sufice. Haha Expand Better than FOAM, not as good as Dookie. How about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 3:42 AM, That Dude said: I guess to rephrase is do you THINK you will really love this album, really hate it or something between? But a ranking between 1 and 14 will sufice. Haha Expand Can you make a ranking video ASAP where you rank the new record? It would also be cool to see a video of Green Day records ranked by how you think you will feel about them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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