1972 project speculation thread

[Clockwise]

I'm sorry, but where does anyone get off calling them lazy and dispassionate? That's just an absolutely insane thing to accuse this band of, just because they had fun making FOAM doesn't mean they didn't believe in it as much as their other records. I'm sorry you didn't like it, but that claim is just completely baseless.

[Harry]

HAPPY PAGE 500, EVERYBODY! 🎉 🥳

[Lenny]

8 hours ago, That Dude said:

Took me a second to get the reference....now I get it, though.  You're confirming 1972 will be Uno Updated! : Updated with worse lyrics.  I mean modern lyrics.  Like Fall Out Boy did for Jilly Boel.

Theres some dude on YouTube that makes crazy Green Day conspiracy videos.

He’s already talked about 1981.

6 hours ago, DookieLukie said:

If this new album isn’t good, Green Day risk alienating their fan base after the torture they’ve put us through for the last 2 years.

Nope they’re cemented already on back catalog alone. A huge part of GD’s success during AI was the discovery of their back catalog by a new generation. 
 

Very few bands put together a discography of this quality so even if band isn’t adding to it a lot of other bands fall short still despite that.

Notorious for a great live show as well.

9 hours ago, Austrian_Insomniac said:

assholes like butch walker? I mean i think he was the biggest problem of FOAM

I’m no fan of butch walker but in all fairness he didn’t write the songs on the album.

I love Rob Cavallo a lot for all of his work not just Green Day work, but even with the trilogy how did the guitars end up sounding like that?

Shit happens, sometimes we go to work and we have good periods of output and sometimes we suck. We’re humans.

And ps Butch knows a lot about modern digital recording methods, he is still very much a pro. Green Day always sounded better on tape though.

6 hours ago, Sanity Loan said:

Rob Cavallo is the fixer, I'm guessing. Similarly, Butch Vig likely had a large influence on 21CB. RevRad was pretty good for self-produced but imagine if it had a Cavallo/Vig touch.

Rob is the best producer for Green Day no doubt. He knows how to channel their chaos. Watch all these videos over the years of them recording with him. He’s the only one who’s ever had them sit there with an attention span for more than 2 mins.

They respect Rob. Butch Vig was also a great producer for the band. Those are the two who stick out for me across Green Day’s career. They both got maximum Green Day.

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

Reading the last few pages I’m even more convinced that the biggest blessing and curse of this band is their spanning through different eras of rock and their different music styles, and through different generations of fans and their different music tastes.
Unless they somehow pull out a extremely commercially successful masterpiece that brings in a fresh fanbase as AI did, I think it will be almost impossible to have a new record that will be “universally recognized” as a success, pleasing part of the current fanbase without being hated by the rest of it. Even more considering the current state of society and pop culture where everything needs to be either loved or hated. 
The question to me is whether the band actually cares about this stuff at this point of their career, and whether they should care at all. 

[Christian's Inferno!]

34 minutes ago, Sheenius said:

I’m no fan of butch walker but in all fairness he didn’t write the songs on the album.

I don't think Walker was the right choice for Green Day but I don't think it's fair for people to blame the problems with the album on him when the sound of the album was almost surely down to Billie, which is what it's been like since at least American Idiot. I think the issue with Walker was probably not doing what Cavallo or Vig could do which was challenge the band to do better than they have before.

Rob, as he's worked with them for most of their career, was clearly able to do that. After C&V, he asked the band if that was the best they could do and they said no and made American Idiot. Butch Vig is the reason Billie ended up writing Restless Heart Syndrome as he had the melody of that song for years and Vig made him write lyrics for the song. He's also the reason why H&H is on the album too. Both these songs are amongst my favourite GD songs and I'm so glad they were made and put on the album

 

6 minutes ago, HAPPY FINKING UNICORN said:

Reading the last few pages I’m even more convinced that the biggest blessing and curse of this band is their spanning through different eras of rock music and their different music styles, and through different generations of fans and their different music tastes.
Unless they somehow pull out a extremely commercially successful masterpiece that brings in a fresh fanbase as AI did, I think it will be almost impossible to have a new record that manages to be please part of the current fanbase without being hated by the rest of it. Even more considering the current state of society and pop culture where everything needs to be either loved or hated. 
The question to me is whether the band actually cares about this stuff at this point of their career, and wether they should care at all. 

I think every band once they've been around enough kind of have the same problem. Where they have many different types of fans that prefer different types of music. Like look at Weezer for example. There are groups that like the Blue album the most, then those who prefer Pinkerton, those who prefer their 00's stuff, their 2010s stuff, their poppier stuff, their more rock sounding stuff etc. You just can't please them all. There are plenty of other bands I could mention to. Linkin Park after Meteora would drastically change their sound for each new album and fans had their own preferences. There are a ton of other examples I could give

And even if GD did manage to make an extremely commercially successful album that is considered a "masterpiece", there will still be parts of the fanbase that wouldn't like it, or at least not as much as their older stuff. All of their albums have had their detractors. Dookie was considered a sellout, Insomniac was considered a disappointment after Dookie by many, Nimrod released Good Riddance and experimental stuff which a lot of older fans would've also considered a sellout. Warning was hated by many. AI was a huge shift and while very successful was disliked by a lot of older fans. Same with 21CB. The trilogy, of course, was hated by many. RevRad and FOAMF, no different, also got a lot of hate and criticism

I don't think the band should care about trying to please everyone because they can't. It's just not possible

[nopride84]

1 hour ago, Sheenius said:

Theres some dude on YouTube that makes crazy Green Day conspiracy videos.

He’s already talked about 1981

You just quoted that dude on YouTube in your own post

 

1 hour ago, Sheenius said:

  9 hours ago, That Dude said:

Took me a second to get the reference....now I get it, though.  You're confirming 1972 will be Uno Updated! : Updated with worse lyrics.  I mean modern lyrics.  Like Fall Out Boy did for Jilly Boel

 

[localinsomniac]

6 minutes ago, nopride84 said:

You just quoted that dude on YouTube in your own post

 

 

Giving the benefit of the doubt that it was tongue-in-cheek

[pacejunkie punk]

It’s interesting that AI has a new and different meaning these days. To Green Day fans, it could mean American Idiot. Maybe an updated rock opera could be called AI? Kind of neat play on words that references the album but brings it up to date. American Idiot was all about losing your identity. AI can be saying something similar in today’s world with plagiarism, deep fakes and loss of jobs.

Not saying they’re doing this but it would be fun to see Billie try some clever storytelling with the American Idiot/AI thing.

Oh no, I’m starting to sound like @That Dude ! 😂

[Christian's Inferno!]

3 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

It’s interesting that AI has a new and different meaning these days. To Green Day fans, it could mean American Idiot. Maybe an updated rock opera could be called AI? Kind of neat play on words that references the album but brings it up to date. American Idiot was all about losing your identity. AI can be saying something similar in today’s world with plagiarism, deep fakes and loss of jobs.

Not saying they’re doing this but it would be fun to see Billie try some clever storytelling with the American Idiot/AI thing.

Oh no, I’m starting to sound like @That Dude ! 😂

Artificial Idiot

[DookieLukie]

22 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

It’s interesting that AI has a new and different meaning these days. To Green Day fans, it could mean American Idiot. Maybe an updated rock opera could be called AI? Kind of neat play on words that references the album but brings it up to date. American Idiot was all about losing your identity. AI can be saying something similar in today’s world with plagiarism, deep fakes and loss of jobs.

Not saying they’re doing this but it would be fun to see Billie try some clever storytelling with the American Idiot/AI thing.

Oh no, I’m starting to sound like @That Dude ! 😂

Could be a cool idiot but also sort of resting on their laurels using their biggest release instead of something new and fresh.

[Little Boy Named Booze]

53 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Could be a cool idiot but also sort of resting on their laurels using their biggest release instead of something new and fresh.

They already re-used their biggest release with a unicorn on it and we all know how good it was.

[Gwen Stacy]

37 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

They already re-used their biggest release with a unicorn on it and we all know how good it was.

I wasn’t particularly fussed about the reframing/defacing of the American Idiot cover. That’s a valid artistic move (hell, even Bowie did it). It was the ketchup font I found personally distasteful.

[That Dude]

3 hours ago, HAPPY FINKING UNICORN said:

Reading the last few pages I’m even more convinced that the biggest blessing and curse of this band is their spanning through different eras of rock and their different music styles, and through different generations of fans and their different music tastes.
Unless they somehow pull out a extremely commercially successful masterpiece that brings in a fresh fanbase as AI did, I think it will be almost impossible to have a new record that will be “universally recognized” as a success, pleasing part of the current fanbase without being hated by the rest of it. Even more considering the current state of society and pop culture where everything needs to be either loved or hated. 
The question to me is whether the band actually cares about this stuff at this point of their career, and whether they should care at all. 

All that matters is Fantano likes it.  

[Maddie86]

5 hours ago, Sheenius said:

 

And ps Butch knows a lot about modern digital recording methods, he is still very much a pro. Green Day always sounded better on tape though.

It's been a realllly long time since green day used tape. I think I heard somewhere that warning was done with Pro Tools but I could be mistaken, but I definitely remember reading that the reason they chose Doug McKean was because he was so good at protools. I also read that Chris Dugan said they tried doing drums on tape for 21st century breakdown but the transients weren't coming through the way they wanted so they just went digital 

[Reverend Strychnine Twitch]

-How many songs will be on the album?

-Will there be any hidden tracks?

-What will the artwork look like?

-Who will be the music videos director(s)?

-Will there be choirs or orchestral leanings on the album?

-Is it a concept album?

So many questions on my mind...

[That Dude]

12 hours ago, Sheenius said:

Theres some dude on YouTube that makes crazy Green Day conspiracy videos.

He’s already talked about 1981.

Nope they’re cemented already on back catalog alone. A huge part of GD’s success during AI was the discovery of their back catalog by a new generation. 
 

 

Going to try and type this to the melody of 1981:   I wanna hear some Green Day conspiracies!

 

 

 

[AnonymWarnerGermany]

Page 500 - I was here!

[M1KEY]

23 hours ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

It's just the snippets out there anyway

I’m told the full songs are out there but I don’t know anyone who has them. 

On 7/24/2023 at 10:56 PM, Otis Big said:

Someone one give us those FOAM demos please. 

A. They aren’t demos, they are full studio recordings. 
b. The red banner you saw when you came to this forum meant nothing to you, huh?

[Austrian_Insomniac]

1 hour ago, AnonymWarnerGermany said:

Page 500 - I was here!

you could have said "i was there , i was theeeere"

 

you fucked up - du hast es verschissen haha 😘 

[pouty bitch]

11 hours ago, Gwen Stacy said:

I wasn’t particularly fussed about the reframing/defacing of the American Idiot cover. That’s a valid artistic move (hell, even Bowie did it). It was the ketchup font I found personally distasteful.

Christ on a bike I'm an idiot, it took this post for me to realise that the AI artwork is in the foamf artwork  I was so distracted by the ketchup and unicorns lol

Shows how much attention I was paying during in the foamf era 

[Insomniac90]

1 hour ago, AnonymWarnerGermany said:

Page 500 - I was here!

„Verfickte scheiße“

- Eric Cartman 😂

[Jirachi]

3 hours ago, Reverend Strychnine Twitch said:

-How many songs will be on the album?

-Will there be any hidden tracks?

-What will the artwork look like?

-Who will be the music videos director(s)?

-Will there be choirs or orchestral leanings on the album?

-Is it a concept album?

So many questions on my mind...

I don't think hidden tracks are really a thing anymore. I can't remember the last album that I heard with a hidden track.

[GDFan2019]

18 minutes ago, Jirachi said:

I don't think hidden tracks are really a thing anymore. I can't remember the last album that I heard with a hidden track.

All By Myself is the only one

[Little Boy Named Booze]

Hidden tracks were cool when people were buying CDs.
Now with Spotify you can't have hidden tracks anymore.

[Lenny]

36 minutes ago, Jirachi said:

I don't think hidden tracks are really a thing anymore. I can't remember the last album that I heard with a hidden track.

Maybe you just didn’t find the hidden track?