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7 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said:

Honestly don't have an issue with Redundant being a single. Prosthetic Head doesn't sound like a single track to me at all. Scattered could've worked in place of Redundant but I don't really have a problem with them going for Redundant there

Last of the American Girls is also fine as a single imo. It's a radio friendly song, fine for a 5th single release for the album. The Static Age could've worked in its place too. Peacemaker and Before the Lobotomy are better songs but don't sound like singles to me either. The main mistake with 21CB singles imo was having KYE be the lead single. That song still works well as a single but it wasn't the best way to introduce people to the album. The title track absolutely should've been the lead single

If I recall correctly Good Riddance took the place of Prosthetic Head. Obviously making GR a single was a great choice for the band/label, but when the album first came out PH was definitely my fave song.

1981 doesn't feel like lead single material to me either.

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19 minutes ago, The Grohl said:

Exciting that we actually got something new! But to me, this honestly sounds like something that could've been on FOAM, which isn't a bad thing for me! Hopefully, an official version is released soon so I'll save my judgments. For now, the song is fine and that hook has been in my head since I heard it, so mission accomplished Green Day.

Going by what the guitar tech says I'm thinking GD is going to use the same strategy they did for FOAM: drop a single in September, album comes out early 2024. 

If this ends up being a long album like, let's say 14-16 songs, maybe we'd get multiple singles during that time so the wait doesn't seem so long

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That year concept I saw on Reddit gave me an idea. What if the album looked like this:

ACT 1: 1972

1. 1972

2. Song about Billie's childhood

3. Political song about President Nixon and the Watergate Scandal

4. Song about a childhood friend of Billie's

5. Song about trashing disco

6. Homage to 70s punk groups

ACT 2: 1981

7. 1981 

8. Tribute to Billie's father

9. Song about Billie's friendship with Mike

10. Song about the band's origins

11. Song about Amanda

12. Love song about 80

ACT 3: 2020

13. 2020

14. Song about Covid

15. Song about Trump

16. Song about Biden

17. Song about Social Media

18. Song about hope for the future

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33 minutes ago, Ryan said:

I think the song has some potential. My problem is that it was WILDLY out of tune and Billie's voice didn't sound great. My husband and I were kind of looking at each other with cringe face while we were listening. Give me the studio version please! Not writing it off by any means, but also hoping that the fucking amazing group sound we have come to expect from this band comes back.

Yeah the performance wasn't that great, but the song sounds cool. As someone pointed out in the comments of a YT video, it was probably a combination of nerves and the fact that it's a new song. He also messed up / forgot the lyrics a couple of times, so seems nervousness could definitely be a factor. As I was alluding to in a post a few pages back, there's no getting around the fact that Billie is on the wrong side of 50 now (and still sounding and looking fantastic btw) but it means that he has to practice and exercise more to get the same level of vocal control as previously. That's life. This is why I agree, I'd want to hear the studio version and the live version once they've played it a few times, but I'm confident it'll sound great and I can actually see it being quite a crowd pleaser, a bit like KYE. 

I'm not sure how people can say it sounds like FOAM though, for better or for worse, depending on what our opinions are, because I don't think it does. I can understand if people are underwhelmed regarding its length or relative simplicity, but funny thing is, most of the complaints I've heard could be made about a lot of early Green Day songs. Simplicity has always been at the heart of Green Day's songs and there's so many short Green Day songs that I'd still be here next week if I had to list them all. It's also why I think the few songs on FOAM that were more stripped down and less engorged in unnecessary and cringeworthy production elements were quite ok, even if they were short and simple. 

I get that there's people who want new Green Day material to be the next Homecoming, Jesus of Suburbia, restless heart syndrome, brutal love or dirty rotten bastards, but that's not what 80% of their catalogue actually consists of. 

Yeah, I've also been critical of the band, perhaps excessively so at times, but in my defence a lot of my issues regarding their later material has not been about the song-writing (even if I believed it not to be their peak material) but more about production / mixing, especially the case for the trilogy and FOAM. So this is why I'm waiting to hear the studio version before judging the song. From the little I've heard I think it's pretty good and like I pointed it out a few pages back definitely gives me typical Green Day vibes from a bunch of different eras including the trilogy and Warning, which is a good thing. 

17 minutes ago, legendary said:

1981 looks like a mid album track, like She's a Rebel or Bouncing of the Wall... 

Yeah and I actually kinda like those songs, but then again I like KYE, so I'm in the minority there. 

I think you're right though and with the exception of KYE, I think it doesn't bode well for the song. Be careful what you wish for is what I'd say to all those tearing it down, because if it goes the same way as the songs you mentioned (and I would add to that list stab you in the heart and horseshoes and handgrenades) they're gonna drop it from the set after playing it only a handful of times :lol:

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10 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said:

That year concept I saw on Reddit gave me an idea. What if the album looked like this:

ACT 1: 1972

1. 1972

2. Song about Billie's childhood

3. Political song about President Nixon and the Watergate Scandal

4. Song about a childhood friend of Billie's

5. Song about trashing disco

6. Homage to 70s punk groups

ACT 2: 1981

7. 1981 

8. Tribute to Billie's father

9. Song about Billie's friendship with Mike

10. Song about the band's origins

11. Song about Amanda

12. Love song about 80

ACT 3: 2020

13. 2020

14. Song about Covid

15. Song about Trump

16. Song about Biden

17. Song about Social Media

18. Song about hope for the future

What are we doing here

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21 minutes ago, legendary said:

1981 looks like a mid album track, like She's a Rebel or Bouncing of the Wall... 

It's pretty mid, yeah. Really hope that 1981 is not a single. Nice to have on an album though. I really hope we have some 10/10 songs on the album.

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20 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said:

That year concept I saw on Reddit gave me an idea. What if the album looked like this:

ACT 1: 1972

1. 1972

2. Song about Billie's childhood

3. Political song about President Nixon and the Watergate Scandal

4. Song about a childhood friend of Billie's

5. Song about trashing disco

6. Homage to 70s punk groups

ACT 2: 1981

7. 1981 

8. Tribute to Billie's father

9. Song about Billie's friendship with Mike

10. Song about the band's origins

11. Song about Amanda

12. Love song about 80

ACT 3: 2020

13. 2020

14. Song about Covid

15. Song about Trump

16. Song about Biden

17. Song about Social Media

18. Song about hope for the future

Why would Billie say that 1972 is dead if there was a song called 1972 on the album and 1/3 of the album was based on the 1972 concept. I think the most likely explanation is just that the album was initially called 1972 and/or they had a song titled 1972 but now they've moved away from that whole concept

All these songs just sound like the most basic ass green day stuff they've done before. Like what's the point in writing a song about Trump in 2023, or a song about Biden, like what is Biden specifically doing that Billie would have to critique that doesn't apply to all the other presidents? You may as well just write See the Light for song 18 again, or 80 for 12, or Amanda for song 11. All songs Billie has already written and don't really need repeating. I'm sure Billie's still gonna write about Adrienne every once in a while. I don't really see him writing about Amanda anymore, at least not explicitly, since he revealed her name when he wrote the song Amanda and confirmed that Whatsername and other songs were based on her, there doesn't really seem to be any reason to write a song specifically about her again

I'm also not expecting an 18 song album

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20 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said:

I'm also not expecting an 18 song album

I expect an album around 12-13 songs. Since 21stCB GD hasn't released an album with a huge list of songs. Trilogy, 12-13 songs per chapter. RevRad has 12 songs, FOAM has 10 songs.

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2 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said:

Honestly don't have an issue with Redundant being a single. Prosthetic Head doesn't sound like a single track to me at all. Scattered could've worked in place of Redundant but I don't really have a problem with them going for Redundant there

Last of the American Girls is also fine as a single imo. It's a radio friendly song, fine for a 5th single release for the album. The Static Age could've worked in its place too. Peacemaker and Before the Lobotomy are better songs but don't sound like singles to me either. The main mistake with 21CB singles imo was having KYE be the lead single. That song still works well as a single but it wasn't the best way to introduce people to the album. The title track absolutely should've been the lead single

21st Century Breakdown got leaked and they went with Know Your Enemy .    Imagine, a Green Day song leaking.   WHOA.   Haha.

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1 hour ago, GDFan2019 said:

That year concept I saw on Reddit gave me an idea. What if the album looked like this:

ACT 1: 1972

1. 1972

2. Song about Billie's childhood

3. Political song about President Nixon and the Watergate Scandal

4. Song about a childhood friend of Billie's

5. Song about trashing disco

6. Homage to 70s punk groups

ACT 2: 1981

7. 1981 

8. Tribute to Billie's father

9. Song about Billie's friendship with Mike

10. Song about the band's origins

11. Song about Amanda

12. Love song about 80

ACT 3: 2020

13. 2020

14. Song about Covid

15. Song about Trump

16. Song about Biden

17. Song about Social Media

18. Song about hope for the future

Big oof, I hope not. That would be absolutely ridiculous. 

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30 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said:

I also posted this in the 1981 thread but Hans says the single should be out in the fall!!!

 

thats a shame :( now we have a teaser in form of an out of tune in bad quality live version. (and i am not blaming them or saying the song is bad, i am just saying that i think this version isnt doing it justice and they should release the song as soon as possible)

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7 hours ago, Whatshisnamee said:

21CB is such a good album, would love to hear East Jesus Nowhere again live and would love to hear American Eulogy live again 😊

Omg I would love love LOVE to see them give American Eulogy some representation, but I don't think they'd get away with that n-word today. So I doubt they'd play it unless Billie modified/self-censored, which he may not want to do.

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We have a long, long wait ahead of us.

Weird for them to play a new song months before release. Wonder if this is possibly a b-side that they don’t mind wasting early.

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11 minutes ago, TrillieGD said:

 

I'm going to start getting triggered every time I hear the word "almost" from now on.

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25 minutes ago, pouty bitch said:

Omg I would love love LOVE to see them give American Eulogy some representation, but I don't think they'd get away with that n-word today. So I doubt they'd play it unless Billie modified/self-censored, which he may not want to do.

I think this wouldn't be a problem since Billie modifies the lyrics of many songs live (Jesus of Suburbia, Basket Case, When I Come Around, ...) 😄

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1 hour ago, pouty bitch said:

Omg I would love love LOVE to see them give American Eulogy some representation, but I don't think they'd get away with that n-word today. So I doubt they'd play it unless Billie modified/self-censored, which he may not want to do.

American Eulogy back in 09/10 with way too much pyro at the end of the song is the best thing that has ever happend to their setlist. 

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4 hours ago, GDFan2019 said:

I also posted this in the 1981 thread but Hans says the single should be out in the fall!!!

 

sus

didnt his guitar tech say album promo is about to start very soon? i cant see them start the promo without having a new song

too many questions and no answers 😅

 

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