1972 project speculation thread

[cav9mm]

7 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Maybe the label delayed it due to all the new rock records coming out. Still sad to see a band as legendary as GD have so little control.

Its almost like the record company want to do what is the best thing financially as opposed to what the band and fans want. 

[Alf]

20 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Maybe the label delayed it due to all the new rock records coming out. Still sad to see a band as legendary as GD have so little control.

haha I've been joking for a while that the band was delaying the release to not coincide with other big releases happening this year... and in the end this could really be the case

[purplebenny]

13 minutes ago, cav9mm said:

Its almost like the record company want to do what is the best thing financially as opposed to what the band and fans want. 

To be fair, it’s hard to think the band also don’t want to maximise revenue

It’s just fans 

[Little Boy Named Booze]

If they really want to fuck with Warner they should just play their entire new album on July 14th and 16th.

[That Dude]

10 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

If they really want to fuck with Warner they should just play their entire new album on July 14th and 16th.

Green Day being Punk Rock, that would be the day.   What if they played the next album in full and then....didn't play Basketcase?   Oh man.   I think Johnny Rotten would change his mind about Green Day and proclaim them the new kings of Punk Rock.

 

[Virginia Lot Lizard]

Waiting for this album is so boring. No Coverups shows or Foxboro or Longshot or the Network to tide us over. I miss no fun Mondays and the Oakland Coffee playlists. I am a whining spoiled Green Day fan. The past couple of years suck as a fan that can’t get to the shows. The band seems so quiet for a couple of years now for fans out of the touring areas. Even being far away at least the set lists were fun to see. Not anymore though. I hope the bands shakes up the setlist next touring cycle.

I hope at least a single comes or a cover or anything comes out soon. I’ve been a Green Day fan for nearly my entire life and this is the first time being a fan has felt so anticlimactic for way too long. 

This thread is hundreds of pages and thousands of comments/posts. Is this the biggest longest most boring anticipation thread for the GDC?

[DookieLukie]

I think what’s most defeating this time is that there have been multiple points of teasing or insider info that all ultimately amounted to nothing. Usually it ramps up and eventually happens but this has been like edging with no orgasm in sight, maybe ever.

[Gwen Stacy]

It’s a well known fact that Billie Joe is a tease, but this has been just cruel.

[Virginia Lot Lizard]

1 hour ago, Gwen Stacy said:

It’s a well known fact that Billie Joe is a tease, but this has been just cruel.

THIS!!! I wish I could superlove react to your comment. All I could do was love. But please know it’s a superlove.

[AlienVisitor]

13 hours ago, Gwen Stacy said:

It’s a well known fact that Billie Joe is a tease, but this has been just cruel.

And a damn big Hypocrite too.. For all we know they might be back with Warners.

[pcj]

When @Sanity Loan stated earlier that GD don't control when the next album is released, it's down to the record company, (RC). I thought wtf, who do they think they are telling GD what they can or can't do. 

When I looked into it I realised my total ignorance of just how it all works. Without boring everyone with contract law, it's basically down to cost, profit and loss and most importantly risk and who covers that risk.

Recording, producing, manufacturing, distribution of your record costs money, lots of it. The RC covers that and even advances you money to live on in the meantime.

If the album is a bummer and flops and the money invested is lost, the RC takes the hit. The artist/band is not legally responsible for the loss and owes the RC nothing.

The RC makes money on Royalties, the money made from record sales, promotions, etc. The RC can claim anything from 60% to 90% of royalties to pay back the advance before the band members get anything.

It's all down to contract negotiation. If your not careful the RC can own you. It will control and own the masters of your music, control when an album can be recorded and released, when you can do interviews, radio shows, TV appearances, videos,tours, the lot. And in some cases if they don't think the record is good enough send you back to the studio to start again.

Recently major artists like Taylor Swift and Gary Barlow, have been fighting back to change the law. To allow an artist/band to have more control, in particular the long term ownership of the masters. 

You could say fuck it, I've got my own studio, I'll start my own record label, I'll do it all myself. Cool, but you take risk, if it fails........

 

[jengd]

54 minutes ago, AlienVisitor said:

And a damn big Hypocrite too.. For all we know they might be back with Warners.

Are you being ironic? I thought we knew for def they never left Warners.  That doesn’t mean they don’t have a new contract which gives them more flexibility, but it could be in a way we’ll never know or see.

[pcj]

1 hour ago, jengd said:

Are you being ironic? I thought we knew for def they never left Warners.  That doesn’t mean they don’t have a new contract which gives them more flexibility, but it could be in a way we’ll never know or see.

https://www.wmg.com/news/crush-music-launches-label-warner-music-group-21181

Warner Music Group launched a joint Venture with Crush Music group co- founders back in 2016. So there is some form of a business relationship.

 

 

 

[The Grohl]

The wait has been so long it's getting to the point that I forget GD are even working on new music. Honestly, I don't care if I have to wait, but we could've done without the teasing then. I understand that maybe they figured the album or whatever they were working on would be ready sooner than they thought, but I'm really tired of bands announcing new projects and then just sitting on them (looking at you blink-182). If it's not close to being done, don't say anything then. I'd rather be surprised and have a firm release date to give me something to look forward to. This long game of will they won't they is really tiring. Luckily, I have other albums to look forward to this year as GD fades to the back of my memory,

[DookieLukie]

9 minutes ago, The Grohl said:

The wait has been so long it's getting to the point that I forget GD are even working on new music. Honestly, I don't care if I have to wait, but we could've done without the teasing then. I understand that maybe they figured the album or whatever they were working on would be ready sooner than they thought, but I'm really tired of bands announcing new projects and then just sitting on them (looking at you blink-182). If it's not close to being done, don't say anything then. I'd rather be surprised and have a firm release date to give me something to look forward to. This long game of will they won't they is really tiring. Luckily, I have other albums to look forward to this year as GD fades to the back of my memory,

It’s not “will they, won’t they.” It’s won’t they. From all the evidence at this point, nothing is coming for quite a long time (years).

[PluckyJokerhead]

11 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

It’s not “will they, won’t they.” It’s won’t they. From all the evidence at this point, nothing is coming for quite a long time (years).

What? The only actual evidence we have is that the record is coming out next year. That's one year, not multiple. 

[pcj]

We've been reliably informed that the album was finished last month, June.

We also now know that GD do not control the release date, it's down to Crush the record co. (RC).

We've speculated loads about the delay and why. Was is post COVID issues, etc.

Or maybe something we've not considered.

This is pure speculation, reckless even. I've no proof. But, what if it's the record company's doing.

When GD originally had a plan for an EP of was it 6 songs, that got dropped. Did the RC say no not good  enough, it won't sell?

When the teases stopped last August. Where GD ready to go. Did RC say no again go back to studio, we want more?

So, it's not GD keeping us waiting and in the dark, it's the RC?

[Christian's Inferno!]

47 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

It’s not “will they, won’t they.” It’s won’t they. From all the evidence at this point, nothing is coming for quite a long time (years).

It literally makes no sense to think that it's still going to be multiple years before we get the album

[The Grohl]

They could at least make some sort of announcement that the album or whatever has been delayed. That's not uncommon and I think people would be pretty understanding and happy to just have some sort of update. 

[That Dude]

I wonder if we will eventually know the behind the scenes situation once the album drops.  There could be no issues.  No delays.  Just Green Day taking their time.  Or it could literally be any kind of life stuff ranging from good, bad, neither....just life stuff that comes up.  Billie, Mike, Tre or any of their family.....could be anything.  

[nflsbest26]

https://instagram.com/stories/greendaynews/3141134147268623784?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
 

anyone know anything about this? It says removed on Instagram threads 

Edited July 6, 2023 by nflsbest26

[pacejunkie punk]

2 minutes ago, nflsbest26 said:

https://instagram.com/stories/greendaynews/3141134147268623784?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
 

anyone know anything about this? 

Just a fan account sharing the link to their new Threads page

[GDFan2019]

6 hours ago, pcj said:

We've been reliably informed that the album was finished last month, June.

We also now know that GD do not control the release date, it's down to Crush the record co. (RC).

We've speculated loads about the delay and why. Was is post COVID issues, etc.

Or maybe something we've not considered.

This is pure speculation, reckless even. I've no proof. But, what if it's the record company's doing.

When GD originally had a plan for an EP of was it 6 songs, that got dropped. Did the RC say no not good  enough, it won't sell?

When the teases stopped last August. Where GD ready to go. Did RC say no again go back to studio, we want more?

So, it's not GD keeping us waiting and in the dark, it's the RC?

Which proves that Warner really is the father of all motherfuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AlienVisitor]

7 hours ago, pcj said:

We've been reliably informed that the album was finished last month, June.

We also now know that GD do not control the release date, it's down to Crush the record co. (RC).

We've speculated loads about the delay and why. Was is post COVID issues, etc.

Or maybe something we've not considered.

This is pure speculation, reckless even. I've no proof. But, what if it's the record company's doing.

When GD originally had a plan for an EP of was it 6 songs, that got dropped. Did the RC say no not good  enough, it won't sell?

When the teases stopped last August. Where GD ready to go. Did RC say no again go back to studio, we want more?

So, it's not GD keeping us waiting and in the dark, it's the RC?

I don't think a RC has control over what a band should and should not release.

They might decide release dates but that's about it

[GDFan2019]

At the 2 festivals next week, I wonder if Billie is going to bring back his 1972 vest!!!