1972 project speculation thread

[PluckyJokerhead]

8 hours ago, GDFan2019 said:

This is obviously fake, but it's one of the best concepts I've seen so far.

It does raise a good hypothetical...

What if there are two albums!? Maybe all of this 1972 teasing was all carefully orchestrated to cover up a huge rock opera, their 'great work' if you will. Featuring massive choir sections and orchestras... and 1972 is a fake album to throw off Warner

[rev]

9 hours ago, GDFan2019 said:

This is obviously fake, but it's one of the best concepts I've seen so far.

Hey! That’s my artwork! Thanks. 

[DookieLukie]

Another week, another goose egg for GD music.

[GDFan2019]

26 minutes ago, rev said:

Hey! That’s my artwork! Thanks. 

Nice track list too!!! Much better than the fake we saw last week!!!

[Little Boy Named Booze]

Just stumble upon a comment from Mike's wife about trans issues on instagram.... is she dumb? I wonder if this affect their friendship or the album project. I hope Mike don't take her wife side on this subject. Because Green Day wouldn't agree with this shit.

Seriously Britt, shut the fuck up.

[cav9mm]

37 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

Just stumble upon a comment from Mike's wife about trans issues on instagram.... is she dumb? I wonder if this affect their friendship or the album project. I hope Mike don't take her wife side on this subject. Because Green Day wouldn't agree with this shit.

Seriously Britt, shut the fuck up.

Whether you are right or wrong or agree or disagree …….this isn’t relevant in a thread about Green Day’s new album. 

[GDFan2019]

Sure, the last time we got a teaser was last August, but the last time we heard anything about the new album was back in November when they posted on TikTok with this caption,  “What a year it‘s been, playing festivals and recording our record in London and LA!”

[DookieLukie]

44 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

Just stumble upon a comment from Mike's wife about trans issues on instagram.... is she dumb? I wonder if this affect their friendship or the album project. I hope Mike don't take her wife side on this subject. Because Green Day wouldn't agree with this shit.

Seriously Britt, shut the fuck up.

If friends of 40 years can’t overcome a difference in opinion, that would be sad.

[Macys]

1 hour ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

Just stumble upon a comment from Mike's wife about trans issues on instagram.... is she dumb? I wonder if this affect their friendship or the album project. I hope Mike don't take her wife side on this subject. Because Green Day wouldn't agree with this shit.

Seriously Britt, shut the fuck up.

I don't think that's an issue. It is just her opinion and if it affects their friendsip thats pretty lame and would be surprising that they have gone together for so long and argue over a sexuality BS. What did she say anyways? XD

[Maddie86]

1 hour ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

Just stumble upon a comment from Mike's wife about trans issues on instagram.... is she dumb? I wonder if this affect their friendship or the album project. I hope Mike don't take her wife side on this subject. Because Green Day wouldn't agree with this shit.

Seriously Britt, shut the fuck up.

Oof, I just looked at her profile and if you click the "uproar xx xy" thing on her profile there's a ton of transphobic posts, so fucking lame.

And it's not a "difference of opinion" thing, she's being a bully and posting shit about trans people being mentally ill. She definitely seems like a shitty person 

[StaryedHeart]

I just read somewhere that Queens of the Stone Age should release an album in june, which hasn't been announced yet. Maybe we can still have hope for an album in the summer?

[DookieLukie]

31 minutes ago, Maddie86 said:

Oof, I just looked at her profile and if you click the "uproar xx xy" thing on her profile there's a ton of transphobic posts, so fucking lame.

And it's not a "difference of opinion" thing, she's being a bully and posting shit about trans people being mentally ill. She definitely seems like a shitty person 

So 60% of America are shitty people for believing something that has been believed for 100k years? I’m not saying they’re right, but you’re writing off most people just for not believing what you do.

[Westerberg89]

I could not see any anti-trans comments, just somebody speaking their mind with common sense. That doesn’t make somebody a bully or fascist or evil. If you think that, then you’ve led an extremely privileged and sheltered life.

These are important issues that need addressing & children should not be subject to said topics and choices. That’s just basic common sense. If you think children and early teens should be witness to this sort of thing then you are also a little bit twisted and weird. 
 

Let children and teens grow up naturally. Hell, I’m a completely different person now to who I was 5 years ago, let alone when I was a child. 

[Little Boy Named Booze]

Moral of the story:

1972 isn't out yet because of Britt and her shitty transphobic post.

[rev]

48 minutes ago, Westerberg89 said:

I could not see any anti-trans comments, just somebody speaking their mind with common sense. That doesn’t make somebody a bully or fascist or evil. If you think that, then you’ve led an extremely privileged and sheltered life.

These are important issues that need addressing & children should not be subject to said topics and choices. That’s just basic common sense. If you think children and early teens should be witness to this sort of thing then you are also a little bit twisted and weird. 
 

Let children and teens grow up naturally. Hell, I’m a completely different person now to who I was 5 years ago, let alone when I was a child. 

I don’t think this type of political talk is appropriate for this thread. Let’s talk circles about 1972, not politics. 

[þjáningu]

Mike is very good friends with laura jane grace and he is a big LGBT+ supporter so I wouldn't take his wife's view as his own, she is entitled to believe whatever she wants to believe (even though i strongly disagree with what she is saying/suggesting because i'm trans myself)

let's get back to talking about music instead of culture war stuff 🥰

[Ryan]

48 minutes ago, Westerberg89 said:

These are important issues that need addressing & children should not be subject to said topics and choices. That’s just basic common sense. If you think children and early teens should be witness to this sort of thing then you are also a little bit twisted and weird. 

This isn't the thread for this, but your statement is completely off-base and inaccurate. Children are not just being "subjected" to this stuff. That's a myth fabricated by one segment of the population. It only is a thing if said child is experiencing feelings that they need help dealing with. And in many cases, schools are where children actually trust the adults they are around. Parents who are overly concerned about this are REALLY shitty parents who don't have the trust of their children. 

[pacejunkie punk]

1 hour ago, DookieLukie said:

So 60% of America are shitty people for believing something that has been believed for 100k years? I’m not saying they’re right, but you’re writing off most people just for not believing what you do.

That people who are different from you don’t have the right to exist? There’s a name for people who think that way and yes they’re shitty people if they can’t live and let live

1 hour ago, Westerberg89 said:

I could not see any anti-trans comments, just somebody speaking their mind with common sense. That doesn’t make somebody a bully or fascist or evil. If you think that, then you’ve led an extremely privileged and sheltered life.

These are important issues that need addressing & children should not be subject to said topics and choices. That’s just basic common sense. If you think children and early teens should be witness to this sort of thing then you are also a little bit twisted and weird. 
 

Let children and teens grow up naturally. Hell, I’m a completely different person now to who I was 5 years ago, let alone when I was a child. 

With all due respect you don’t know what you’re talking about and need to educate yourself on what age appropriate gender affirming care is for children with gender dysmorphia. 

[DookieLukie]

26 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

That people who are different from you don’t have the right to exist? There’s a name for people who think that way and yes they’re shitty people if they can’t live and let live.

That’s not what my point was. I’m saying that throwing away 60% of the US is really reactionary. That number isn’t anything to do with someone’s right to exist. It’s related to whether people believe that it is a biologically sound concept. I’m not saying I agree with the 60% since I do believe in “live and let live” and generally don’t care what people do as long as they aren’t hurting people (the key here). People are capable of supporting but not endorsing, by the way. Like not agreeing with someone’s choice but supporting their right to make that choice. I’m just saying that calling 60% of the country shitty people based on one opinion is judgmental and antisocial. I have friends with lots of different opinions and I love them too much to write them off over an opinion or who they married, and I’d imagine the band feels the same way.

[Maddie86]

1 hour ago, DookieLukie said:

So 60% of America are shitty people for believing something that has been believed for 100k years? I’m not saying they’re right, but you’re writing off most people just for not believing what you do.

History has always been unkind to minorities, trans people have always existed whether people want to acknowledge it or not, there was a sex institution built in Germany in the early 1900s to research this kind of thing and then it was destroyed by the Nazis in an attempt to erase us, and currently some members of the US government are also trying to erase us by legislating us out of existence. Nazis are still protesting trans people and drag queens, so people posting anti trans shit online are seriously taking the same stance as the Nazis do, which definitely makes someone a shitty person 

https://www.hrc.org/resources/seven-things-about-transgender-people-that-you-didnt-know

 

1 hour ago, Westerberg89 said:

I could not see any anti-trans comments, just somebody speaking their mind with common sense. That doesn’t make somebody a bully or fascist or evil. If you think that, then you’ve led an extremely privileged and sheltered life.

These are important issues that need addressing & children should not be subject to said topics and choices. That’s just basic common sense. If you think children and early teens should be witness to this sort of thing then you are also a little bit twisted and weird. 
 

Let children and teens grow up naturally. Hell, I’m a completely different person now to who I was 5 years ago, let alone when I was a child. 

Ok, you may be a different person now, that's to be expected, it's part of growing up, but in your personal growth have you questioned your gender at all or have you always been sure of it? Being unsure is ok, people should feel free to explore who they are, but they shouldn't have to wait a certain age to explore that, especially after the irreversible changes that come from "growing up naturally". No one is forcing an agenda on kids, what's happening is kids are brave enough to talk to their parents about their gender and then typically after seeing a therapist the parents will make decisions with their children and medical professionals as to what's best for them at that age. No one is going around "mutilating children" as certain politicians like to say, those kinds of surgeries aren't permitted until you're over 18, and even then they usually require a lot of prerequisites to make sure it's what the person truly wants/needs. Teens can be given puberty blockers to pause puberty until they're old enough to make the decision and be sure of it. States are currently trying to take away rights for even trans adults to receive hormone replacement therapy, and states like Texas and Florida are trying to steal your child from you if you let them come out as transgender, and Florida wants to take your child if you as an adult with your own legal free will are transgender. The shit these states are doing definitely seem like fascism to me, but I didn't call Brittney a fascist, and I think the stuff she's posting is ignorant, not common sense. Of course people are free to disagree with each other, but when the government is trying to take rights away from a certain group of people then a line has been crossed and things have gone too far.

 

I know this is very off topic but I felt a need to reply, this is the last I'll be posting about it in this thread

[DookieLukie]

32 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

 

With all due respect you don’t know what you’re talking about and need to educate yourself on what age appropriate gender affirming care is for children with gender dysmorphia. 

The core question of “Should children be able to get procedures or treatment to alter their physical appearance?” really breaks down to the question of “Can children consent?” which is the core disagreement and, as of now, an opinion. 

1 minute ago, Maddie86 said:

History has always been unkind to minorities, trans people have always existed whether people want to acknowledge it or not, there was a sex institution built in Germany in the early 1900s to research this kind of thing and then it was destroyed by the Nazis in an attempt to erase us, and currently some members of the US government are also trying to erase us by legislating us out of existence. Nazis are still protesting trans people and drag queens, so people posting anti trans shit online are seriously taking the same stance as the Nazis do, which definitely makes someone a shitty person 

https://www.hrc.org/resources/seven-things-about-transgender-people-that-you-didnt-know

1. I said people’s belief, not that trans people never existed. They did exist.

2. The KKK were some of the first groups to endorse women’s suffrage. Your point is basically that if Hitler liked pickles, you are bad if you also like pickles.

[Maddie86]

Ok let's get this thread back on track... 

Mike's birthday is coming up, and people around here seem to think that birthdays mean something... Well Mike's birthday is also Star Wars day. A New Hope was released in 1977, so if the album is 1972 themed, then perhaps the album's theme is about something that happened 5 years before A New Hope, and according to the official canon timeline the shows Andor and Rebels take place 5 years before A New Hope, so the new Green Day album will be released on Star Wars day and it will be about forming a rebel alliance, Revrad part 2 confirmed... 1972 will be Revrad in space

[Ryan]

56 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

The core question of “Should children be able to get procedures or treatment to alter their physical appearance?” really breaks down to the question of “Can children consent?” which is the core disagreement and, as of now, an opinion. 

And again...this isn't actually happening. Children aren't just out there getting surgery or "treatment" in order to alter their physical appearance. Again...this is a giant myth being propagated by a small segment of the population. Gender affirming surgery is typically only done for people after a certain age, and even then it is after A LOT of conversation with trained medical professionals. Furthermore, it has an EXTREMELY low rate of people who have 2nd thoughts or regret their choice...like...ridiculously low when compared to almost ANY other surgical procedure. So again...a small amount of loud idiots are making up shit that isn't even happening. 

[DookieLukie]

6 minutes ago, Ryan said:

And again...this isn't actually happening. Children aren't just out there getting surgery or "treatment" in order to alter their physical appearance. Again...this is a giant myth being propagated by a small segment of the population. Gender affirming surgery is typically only done for people after a certain age, and even then it is after A LOT of conversation with trained medical professionals. Furthermore, it has an EXTREMELY low rate of people who have 2nd thoughts or regret their choice...like...ridiculously low when compared to almost ANY other surgical procedure. So again...a small amount of loud idiots are making up shit that isn't even happening. 

In many states, someone can get surgery as early as 16. Guess it depends on if someone believes that’s considered a child or not. In many states, 16 years olds do have the ability to consent technically. You are right that most cases don’t involve surgery (modifying even clothes can resolve dysphoria in most cases) and few regret it, which is great.

[GDFan2019]

Seriously guys, can we please stay on topic? Let's really just stay away from politics here, unless of course the album ends up being another political rock opera.