1972 project speculation thread

[FOAMfinger]

It's not going to be a double album.

[pcj]

3 hours ago, Cali89 said:

Just realized this thread is almost at 300 pages. I wonder how many more hundreds there will be until we actually get official news from them regarding this album 😄 

1972 pages 😁

[GuitarPunk94]

2 hours ago, FOAMfinger said:

It's not going to be a double album.

maybe it will have as many songs as nimrod or 21cb

i wouldnt mind something "longer" than foam 😅

and i hope they play the new songs live ... after 2009 (~14 years!) revrad is the only new lp by gd they somehow try to play live 🥺

[þjáningu]

On 1/14/2023 at 4:50 PM, GDFan2019 said:

 

I think the Trilogy was technically self titled. I read that the original plan was to call them Green Day I, II, and III. Then 80 suggested, “You know what would be funny? If you called them Uno, Dos, and Tré!”

Are you talking about this one?

https://www.youredm.com/2020/02/09/green-day-no-trap-beats-billboard/

 

That's the one

 

I have no idea who approved of this but it caused a shitstorm on the Internet and damaged the band's reputation (imo)

Also they said in multiple interviews before foam released that foam was going to give everyone a "history of rock and roll lesson" and I've never cringed soo hard in my life 😨 

[Flashback]

2 hours ago, Major Kusanagi said:

I have no idea who approved of this but it caused a shitstorm on the Internet and damaged the band's reputation (imo)

Also they said in multiple interviews before foam released that foam was going to give everyone a "history of rock and roll lesson" and I've never cringed soo hard in my life 😨 

There were so many WTF-moments during the FOAM promotion. It's like they tried to fully replace their previous fan base with totally different listeners from one day to another 😅

[GDFan2019]

1 hour ago, Flashback said:

There were so many WTF-moments during the FOAM promotion. It's like they tried to fully replace their previous fan base with totally different listeners from one day to another 😅

Tell me about it, very odd!! “I hate long songs!” That’s not the real Billie!!!

[Clockwise]

Billie just says things sometimes. We all know this.

[GDFan2019]

10 minutes ago, Clockwise said:

Billie just says things sometimes. We all know this.

I think it was just a persona he put on for that era, since they also did the Network album at the same time.

[pcj]

Hindsight, that maybe something that has happened, should not have happened. And of course there's nothing we can do about it.

In discussing what has gone before, including what may influence the next GD album, there has been many comments on FOAM. To many it has been disappointing, even to the point of being an un-Green Day album, possibly damaging their reputation? And also the concern in some quarters what influence FOAM will have on the next album?

Perhaps, in hindsight, should FOAM never have been released at all in Feb' 2020?

It's been said before, that there was some leftover songs from FOAM that ended up on 'Money Money 2020 Part2, We Told Ya So!' So, maybe should those ten tracks from FOAM have be added to Money Money Part 2 in Dec' 2020 to total 35 tracks, making it a double album? Or is that an insult to Money Money PArt 2?

That would have obviously meant we would be waiting for studio album number 13, as follow up to Rev Rad from Oct' 2016. Over 6 years ago? 

Would that be palatable, being a long wait, but preferable? Or releasing FOAM meant we at least had something to talk about?

Just a thought.

[GDFan2019]

28 minutes ago, pcj said:

Hindsight, that maybe something that has happened, should not have happened. And of course there's nothing we can do about it.

In discussing what has gone before, including what may influence the next GD album, there has been many comments on FOAM. To many it has been disappointing, even to the point of being an un-Green Day album, possibly damaging their reputation? And also the concern in some quarters what influence FOAM will have on the next album?

Perhaps, in hindsight, should FOAM never have been released at all in Feb' 2020?

It's been said before, that there was some leftover songs from FOAM that ended up on 'Money Money 2020 Part2, We Told Ya So!' So, maybe should those ten tracks from FOAM have be added to Money Money Part 2 in Dec' 2020 to total 35 tracks, making it a double album? Or is that an insult to Money Money PArt 2?

That would have obviously meant we would be waiting for studio album number 13, as follow up to Rev Rad from Oct' 2016. Over 6 years ago? 

Would that be palatable, being a long wait, but preferable? Or releasing FOAM meant we at least had something to talk about?

Just a thought.

If they released the FOAM songs as Network songs, and if the pandemic never happened, I'm sure we would've had another proper Green Day album by at least mid 2021. Your observations here totally support the theory that FOAM was put out to end their contract. Maybe the entire sessions were intended for the Network, so they figured, "Hey we got too many songs here, let's take some of these and compile a new Green Day album!" And we know that Art of the Deal with the Devil was originally slated to be released on FOAM.

[localinsomniac]

47 minutes ago, pcj said:

Hindsight, that maybe something that has happened, should not have happened. And of course there's nothing we can do about it.

In discussing what has gone before, including what may influence the next GD album, there has been many comments on FOAM. To many it has been disappointing, even to the point of being an un-Green Day album, possibly damaging their reputation? And also the concern in some quarters what influence FOAM will have on the next album?

Perhaps, in hindsight, should FOAM never have been released at all in Feb' 2020?

It's been said before, that there was some leftover songs from FOAM that ended up on 'Money Money 2020 Part2, We Told Ya So!' So, maybe should those ten tracks from FOAM have be added to Money Money Part 2 in Dec' 2020 to total 35 tracks, making it a double album? Or is that an insult to Money Money PArt 2?

That would have obviously meant we would be waiting for studio album number 13, as follow up to Rev Rad from Oct' 2016. Over 6 years ago? 

Would that be palatable, being a long wait, but preferable? Or releasing FOAM meant we at least had something to talk about?

Just a thought.

I don't love the album, but I'm glad we haven't been waiting this long for an LP after RevRad. Plus, I mean, there's always the chance FOAM would have happened anyway. No matter how long we waited. And then where would we be? 😄

[Christian's Inferno!]

It wouldn't make sense to just put all the FOAM songs in MM2020 Part 2. For one thing, there are songs in there that just sound nothing like The Network and are much more Green Day sounding. Like does it really make sense for Sugar Youth or Graffitia to be on a Network album? And secondly, there's already too much crap in MM2020Pt2. Ik a lot of people love it but I just can't get into that album at all and putting more on that album, a lot of which would be filler wouldn't do the album any favours. Even if you do really like that Network album, you've got to admit there is already a fair bit of filler in there, right?

FOAMF just needed more time in the oven. More time for the solid tracks to bake properly and more time for the band to realize IWATT and Oh Yeah are shit and shouldn't be on the album unless they are changed drastically

[That Dude]

4 hours ago, GDFan2019 said:

I think it was just a persona he put on for that era, since they also did the Network album at the same time.

Wait....did the Network impersonate Green Day for FOAM?     Was it all a hoax and...oh no.   If that is the case, then we haven't had a new record since 2016!  

 

[pacejunkie punk]

2 minutes ago, That Dude said:

Wait....did the Network impersonate Green Day for FOAM?     Was it all a hoax and...oh no.   If that is the case, then we haven't had a new record since 2016!  

 

That would be a great excuse for them to use. “If people thought FOAM sounded off it’s because it wasn’t us, it was The Network!”

[That Dude]

3 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

That would be a great excuse for them to use. “If people thought FOAM sounded off it’s because it wasn’t us, it was The Network!”

FOAM is what Cigarettes and Valentines became once The Network got their nasty hands on it and mutated it. 

Why is Cigarette the hardest word to spell?  Geese. 

 

 

[Q-Man]

I really hope we get more interviews with this next album cycle. It feels like we haven't really gotten any significant interviews since the RevRad days. I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but the FOAM cycle was severely lacking in that regard (COVID right after the album release didn't help either).

[GDFan2019]

33 minutes ago, Q-Man said:

I really hope we get more interviews with this next album cycle. It feels like we haven't really gotten any significant interviews since the RevRad days. I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but the FOAM cycle was severely lacking in that regard (COVID right after the album release didn't help either).

I hope we get appearances on Kimmel, Fallon, Colbert, and SNL!!!!

[Insomniac90]

7 hours ago, Q-Man said:

I really hope we get more interviews with this next album cycle. It feels like we haven't really gotten any significant interviews since the RevRad days. I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but the FOAM cycle was severely lacking in that regard (COVID right after the album release didn't help either).

Or the legendary facebook livestream after the premiere of „Bang Bang“ 🥰

[GDFan2019]

9 hours ago, Insomniac90 said:

Or the legendary facebook livestream after the premiere of „Bang Bang“ 🥰

I'm sure they'll go live on Tiktok this time

[The Grohl]

On 1/16/2023 at 2:45 PM, Christian's Inferno! said:

It wouldn't make sense to just put all the FOAM songs in MM2020 Part 2. For one thing, there are songs in there that just sound nothing like The Network and are much more Green Day sounding. Like does it really make sense for Sugar Youth or Graffitia to be on a Network album? And secondly, there's already too much crap in MM2020Pt2. Ik a lot of people love it but I just can't get into that album at all and putting more on that album, a lot of which would be filler wouldn't do the album any favours. Even if you do really like that Network album, you've got to admit there is already a fair bit of filler in there, right?

FOAMF just needed more time in the oven. More time for the solid tracks to bake properly and more time for the band to realize IWATT and Oh Yeah are shit and shouldn't be on the album unless they are changed drastically

Agreed! I really liked the new Network album, but even I have to admit about half of it is filler. It's strange how one album is too short and the other is too long. 

[GDFan2019]

15 minutes ago, The Grohl said:

Agreed! I really liked the new Network album, but even I have to admit about half of it is filler. It's strange how one album is too short and the other is too long. 

I wonder how much stronger FOAM would’ve been with more songs on the album.

1. Father of All… (2:31)

2. Fire Ready Aim (1:52)

3. Oh Yeah (2:51)

4. Meet Me on the Roof (2:39)

5. I Was a Teenage Teenager (3:44)

6. Stab You in the Heart (2:10)

7. Sugar Youth (1:54)

8. Junkies on a High (3:06)

9. Art of the Deal with the Devil (3:33)

10. Take the Money and Crawl (2:08)

11. Degenerate (2:24)

12. Theory of Reality (1:38)

13. Cancer is the New Black (3:00)

14. Graffitia (3:17)

Old FOAM length 26:12

New FOAM length 36:57

What do you guys think?

[The Grohl]

6 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said:

I wonder how much stronger FOAM would’ve been with more songs on the album.

1. Father of All… (2:31)

2. Fire Ready Aim (1:52)

3. Oh Yeah (2:51)

4. Meet Me on the Roof (2:39)

5. I Was a Teenage Teenager (3:44)

6. Stab You in the Heart (2:10)

7. Sugar Youth (1:54)

8. Junkies on a High (3:06)

9. Art of the Deal with the Devil (3:33)

10. Take the Money and Crawl (2:08)

11. Degenerate (2:24)

12. Theory of Reality (1:38)

13. Cancer is the New Black (3:00)

14. Graffitia (3:17)

Old FOAM length 26:12

New FOAM length 36:57

What do you guys think?

I don't think Theory of Reality and Cancer is the New Black would fit. Those are definitely more Network-y songs. 

[GDFan2019]

Oh look, another festival, but still no album announcement.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CnkDyRSrVZI/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[pcj]

2 hours ago, GDFan2019 said:

Oh look, another festival, but still no album announcement.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CnkDyRSrVZI/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Is this maybe a positive sign? Assuming the new album would need to have been released before this event.

Then your previous suggested release timescale would be, announcement, single(s), album out, April to June?

[GDFan2019]

1 minute ago, pcj said:

Is this maybe a positive sign? Assuming the new album would need to have been released before this event.

Then your previous suggested release timescale would be, announcement, single(s), album out, April to June?

A very positive sign!!!