1972 project speculation thread

[HoneyEmerald]

Oooo    Predictions? I gotta get on this bandwagon since I'm not supposed to prophesy...

My prediction is:   The album makes people feel bad and depressed and lonely and has a great tune/beat to it and it is written for S&M projects. 

 

Seriously... does anyone really want to be abused by the music they listen to?  Only a few songs by this band aren't abusive... and those are the songs I like them for.     Billie Joe Armstrong is a shameful addict who doesn't give a crap about whose life he ruins.    He likes causing harm and then pretends that kissing someone on the cheek is going to make up for it ( anyone up for a billiard cattle brand?).    I mean shit...    He acts like a TODDLER who got left in a bathtub while his dad went to do clothes washing in a hotel while his mother was stuck in an inpatient unit... who was found exposing himself to people walking past the window, having the curtains flung wide open in his hands by the time his dad got back. 

Yeah I'm just a little ticked off at his behavior... as a lot of people should be... why are we paying for him to do this shit?     I want to hear him make good music and songs that arent the rehashing of peoples verbal turds.   "KNOW YOUR ENEMY"   .....   I know my enemy and my enemy is none of your damn business. 

 

[AnonymWarnerGermany]

25 minutes ago, HoneyEmerald said:

Oooo    Predictions? I gotta get on this bandwagon since I'm not supposed to prophesy...

My prediction is:   The album makes people feel bad and depressed and lonely

 

Jokes on you! I already am!

[Sanity Loan]

58 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said:

With the Nimrod anniversary set coming in January, I'm thinking more realistically now. Now I'm thinking we'll get a single in late March, the album would be out in May, and the tour would start in June. @Sanity Loan what are your thoughts?

Sounds plausible. I’m not aware of anything I haven’t already said, so still just “2023.”

It’s hard to tell if the Nimrod release in late January is timed due to physical media production, or to start generating buzz for what’s next. I’d have to assume the new album would be out by When We We’re Young, at the latest. If more festivals are announced or we start hearing rumors of venues getting booked for tour dates, I’d think we’d have a more accurate estimate of when an album would be released.

Has Green Day ever been a band to start a tour prior to an album being released? (Excluding the trilogy)

[That Dude]

48 minutes ago, HoneyEmerald said:

Oooo    Predictions? I gotta get on this bandwagon since I'm not supposed to prophesy...

My prediction is:   The album makes people feel bad and depressed and lonely and has a great tune/beat to it and it is written for S&M projects. 

 

Seriously... does anyone really want to be abused by the music they listen to?  Only a few songs by this band aren't abusive... and those are the songs I like them for.     Billie Joe Armstrong is a shameful addict who doesn't give a crap about whose life he ruins.    He likes causing harm and then pretends that kissing someone on the cheek is going to make up for it ( anyone up for a billiard cattle brand?).    I mean shit...    He acts like a TODDLER who got left in a bathtub while his dad went to do clothes washing in a hotel while his mother was stuck in an inpatient unit... who was found exposing himself to people walking past the window, having the curtains flung wide open in his hands by the time his dad got back. 

Yeah I'm just a little ticked off at his behavior... as a lot of people should be... why are we paying for him to do this shit?     I want to hear him make good music and songs that arent the rehashing of peoples verbal turds.   "KNOW YOUR ENEMY"   .....   I know my enemy and my enemy is none of your damn business. 

 

You're a victim of your symptom. 

[GDFan2019]

17 minutes ago, Sanity Loan said:

Sounds plausible. I’m not aware of anything I haven’t already said, so still just “2023.”

It’s hard to tell if the Nimrod release in late January is timed due to physical media production, or to start generating buzz for what’s next. I’d have to assume the new album would be out by When We We’re Young, at the latest. If more festivals are announced or we start hearing rumors of venues getting booked for tour dates, I’d think we’d have a more accurate estimate of when an album would be released.

Has Green Day ever been a band to start a tour prior to an album being released? (Excluding the trilogy)

If the album is out by then, it just seems odd to me that they would start teasing at the end of 2021, which implied a 2022 release. So maybe there really were plans to put out an EP, then they decided to make a full album and went back to RAK, then back to LA at Ocean Way and Henson. Then the Nimrod news dropped and it got me thinking. Could they have just been at Henson simply to mix Nimrod?

[Christian's Inferno!]

8 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said:

If the album is out by then, it just seems odd to me that they would start teasing at the end of 2021, which implied a 2022 release. So maybe there really were plans to put out an EP, then they decided to make a full album and went back to RAK, then back to LA at Ocean Way and Henson. Then the Nimrod news dropped and it got me thinking. Could they have just been at Henson simply to mix Nimrod?

I think the answer is just that they've had a lot more going on during this recording period than for their other recording periods which most likely delayed the recording. Additionally, the album is probably more or less finished at this point and would probably be out by January if it weren't for the Nimrod anniversary edition but they don't want to release both of them around the same time because they don't want one album to overshadow the other

[pacejunkie punk]

Anyone think the guys sold their interests in Rudy’s Cafe and Broken Guitars in order to finance this next phase? If their deal with Warner is restructured and they own their stuff now, maybe GD have to pay for everything from recording to touring and they’ve been using some expensive studios and hiring high priced professionals for an extended period for this album, when they could have recorded at one of their own. They’re spending bank on this project.

[Sanity Loan]

25 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said:

I think the answer is just that they've had a lot more going on during this recording period than for their other recording periods which most likely delayed the recording. Additionally, the album is probably more or less finished at this point and would probably be out by January if it weren't for the Nimrod anniversary edition but they don't want to release both of them around the same time because they don't want one album to overshadow the other

If an anniversary release of their third best-selling album takes priority over new music, Green Day is officially a legacy act.

[GDFan2019]

29 minutes ago, Sanity Loan said:

If an anniversary release of their third best-selling album takes priority over new music, Green Day is officially a legacy act.

I don't think it's that Nimrod was a priority over 1972, I think it's because the pandemic delayed the tour, so they had to squeeze the 1972 recording sessions and Nimrod mixing sessions in the middle of the tour. 

[Hermione]

5 hours ago, Sheenius said:

Maybe it makes us uncomfortable walking on eggshells because someone may refuse to read into context properly. 

Transgender isn't a slur. "Tranny" is and always has been a slur - if you weren't aware of this google it to learn more. The T in LGBT+ stands for transgender not t*****. Just because some transgender people choose to reclaim the slur by using it doesn't mean everyone should be throwing it around. It's exactly the same thing as some black people reclaiming the n word by using it or some gay people reclaiming the f word (eg Billie Joe, a bisexual man, using it in a song) etc. Pretty simple to understand. 

The context was that you were making a rhyming joke - it's not like you were for example quoting it in order to explain something like I just have. You weren't using it maliciously (which I'm sure you can tell I realised from my reply) but just like if people started casually using the n word on here, we don't want to see other slurs used casually either. We received reports from people who were offended so acted on them by simply pointing out that it's a slur and not appropriate. 

If you want to discuss further PM me. Back on topic here please.

[Lenny]

8 hours ago, Hermione said:

Transgender isn't a slur. "Tranny" is and always has been a slur - if you weren't aware of this google it to learn more. The T in LGBT+ stands for transgender not t*****. Just because some transgender people choose to reclaim the slur by using it doesn't mean everyone should be throwing it around. It's exactly the same thing as some black people reclaiming the n word by using it or some gay people reclaiming the f word (eg Billie Joe, a bisexual man, using it in a song) etc. Pretty simple to understand. 

The context was that you were making a rhyming joke - it's not like you were for example quoting it in order to explain something like I just have. You weren't using it maliciously (which I'm sure you can tell I realised from my reply) but just like if people started casually using the n word on here, we don't want to see other slurs used casually either. We received reports from people who were offended so acted on them by simply pointing out that it's a slur and not appropriate. 

If you want to discuss further PM me. Back on topic here please.

It was a joke poking fun at people who would be offended by transgender artistry so it actually technically is quoted exactly like yours was. 

8 hours ago, Hermione said:

Transgender isn't a slur. "Tranny" is and always has been a slur - if you weren't aware of this google it to learn more. The T in LGBT+ stands for transgender not t*****. Just because some transgender people choose to reclaim the slur by using it doesn't mean everyone should be throwing it around. It's exactly the same thing as some black people reclaiming the n word by using it or some gay people reclaiming the f word (eg Billie Joe, a bisexual man, using it in a song) etc. Pretty simple to understand. 

The context was that you were making a rhyming joke - it's not like you were for example quoting it in order to explain something like I just have. You weren't using it maliciously (which I'm sure you can tell I realised from my reply) but just like if people started casually using the n word on here, we don't want to see other slurs used casually either. We received reports from people who were offended so acted on them by simply pointing out that it's a slur and not appropriate. 

If you want to discuss further PM me. Back on topic here please.

I will also be reporting the people who are sacrificing our freedom of speech and expression, theyre bullies

Edited October 17, 2022 by Hermione
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[jengd]

2 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Anyone think the guys sold their interests in Rudy’s Cafe and Broken Guitars in order to finance this next phase? If their deal with Warner is restructured and they own their stuff now, maybe GD have to pay for everything from recording to touring and they’ve been using some expensive studios and hiring high priced professionals for an extended period for this album, when they could have recorded at one of their own. They’re spending bank on this project.

No, I think that’s pretty unlikely.  I think it more likely either their many business ventures are taking up too much of their time, they aren’t making any money or the guys just got bored with them. I think they all probably could spare some cash if they needed to on a new project.

[HoneyEmerald]

3 hours ago, That Dude said:

You're a victim of your symptom. 

Actually, I am a survivor who fought back.

[That Dude]

@Sheenius

You got a bit of a shoutout in a very cringe YouTube short.   Haha

 

[aahhhh]

7 hours ago, GDFan2019 said:

If the album is out by then, it just seems odd to me that they would start teasing at the end of 2021, which implied a 2022 release. So maybe there really were plans to put out an EP, then they decided to make a full album and went back to RAK, then back to LA at Ocean Way and Henson. Then the Nimrod news dropped and it got me thinking. Could they have just been at Henson simply to mix Nimrod?

This seems like what happened outside of the Henson stuff. Nimrod wasn't remixed/remastered for this re-release so not sure they would need to do much in studio. Maybe they recorded 1972 directly to tape and were making the digital master. There were some social posts showing off the tape machines/reel to reels so it's possible.

[Gwen Stacy]

7 hours ago, Sanity Loan said:

If an anniversary release of their third best-selling album takes priority over new music, Green Day is officially a legacy act.

I think it’s safe to declare they’re a legacy act at this point.

[pacejunkie punk]

8 minutes ago, Gwen Stacy said:

I think it’s safe to declare they’re a legacy act at this point.

After this tour I’m starting to believe that but I’m willing to give them one more new album/tour cycle before fully accepting it.  If the next tour is the same pattern of greatest hits and mostly festival dates, then yeah. 

Basically, I’m still in the denial phase of grief 🫢

[GDFan2019]

48 minutes ago, Gwen Stacy said:

I think it’s safe to declare they’re a legacy act at this point.

 

36 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

After this tour I’m starting to believe that but I’m willing to give them one more new album/tour cycle before fully accepting it.  If the next tour is the same pattern of greatest hits and mostly festival dates, then yeah. 

Basically, I’m still in the denial phase of grief 🫢

IDK, I have a feeling, once 1972 comes out, they’ll reveal the truth about FOAM, which we suspected was a throwaway album to finish their contract. Although, I suppose it's possible FOAM songs would've made it into the setlist if the tour hadn't been delayed by Covid, and the album was still fresh in everyone's minds.

[billy1986]

I love it how “fans” think Green Day are a legacy band and are down…they still sell out tours and are headlining When We Were Young this coming Summer….nimrod is not their 3rd highest selling album btw…Dookie - AI - INSOMNIAC that’s their 3rd highest seller Insomniac…seems there are a lot of haters pretending to be fans. Green Day are far from over they still are known and tour all around the world. When the new album comes out and is amazing I hope the “doubters” admit how far off they were. 

[jengd]

How can a band that’s been around 30 years not have an element of being a legacy band?  If they didn’t, it would mean nothing they had put out in that 30 years was worth going back to listen to! 

[Christian's Inferno!]

3 hours ago, billy1986 said:

I love it how “fans” think Green Day are a legacy band and are down…they still sell out tours and are headlining When We Were Young this coming Summer….nimrod is not their 3rd highest selling album btw…Dookie - AI - INSOMNIAC that’s their 3rd highest seller Insomniac…seems there are a lot of haters pretending to be fans. Green Day are far from over they still are known and tour all around the world. When the new album comes out and is amazing I hope the “doubters” admit how far off they were. 

I mean we don't really know whether Insomniac or Nimrod is the 3rd highest seller and not knowing which is the better sale does not make someone a fake fan. Afaik they've been neck and neck for most of their career. However in terms of streaming & single sales, Nimrod is by far the more successful album, mostly due to Good Riddance

I don't care if they're a legacy band or not. I think they will continue making new music but their old music is always going to be more important to most of their fanbase. And that's nothing against their new music, it's just when a band has had as many great albums as Green Day, you're always going to be remembered for your past albums. It seems like legacy band has a negative connotation here when it shouldn't. Green Day's legacy is great. And Green Day's golden age is 1994-2009. Doesn't mean there's not been great songs/albums before or after that golden age

[PursuitOfEpicness]

8 hours ago, GDFan2019 said:

 

IDK, I have a feeling, once 1972 comes out, they’ll reveal the truth about FOAM, which we suspected was a throwaway album to finish their contract. Although, I suppose it's possible FOAM songs would've made it into the setlist if the tour hadn't been delayed by Covid, and the album was still fresh in everyone's minds.

Eh Idk if they would, when an album isn’t received well lately they just pretend it didn’t happen 😂

[Christian's Inferno!]

16 minutes ago, PursuitOfEpicness said:

Eh Idk if they would, when an album isn’t received well lately they just pretend it didn’t happen 😂

They did mention the trilogy during the RevRad promo period though. How it had "absolutely no direction to them" and was "prolific for the sake of it". I think they will talk about FOAMF if an interviewer asks about it but otherwise I think they will probably remain mostly quiet about it

[pacejunkie punk]

6 hours ago, billy1986 said:

I love it how “fans” think Green Day are a legacy band and are down…they still sell out tours and are headlining When We Were Young this coming Summer….nimrod is not their 3rd highest selling album btw…Dookie - AI - INSOMNIAC that’s their 3rd highest seller Insomniac…seems there are a lot of haters pretending to be fans. Green Day are far from over they still are known and tour all around the world. When the new album comes out and is amazing I hope the “doubters” admit how far off they were. 

I think you’re misunderstanding what a legacy act is. WWWY is literally a festival of legacy acts, hence the title. Legacy acts can still sell out tours, stadiums and headline festivals. It doesn’t mean a band is “over” or “down” or that they suck. It just means that their most popular and best music is behind them and they’ve amassed enough of a back catalog that they can 100% live off it and tour off it. When every tour becomes a greatest hits tour and you’re no longer playing or promoting your latest music much because most fans don’t care to hear it, you might be a legacy act.

It doesn’t mean you’re no longer loved, but you are loved more for your past accomplishments. Most bands never achieve enough to have a legacy.  GD are one of the lucky few.

[GDFan2019]

13 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I think you’re misunderstanding what a legacy act is. WWWY is literally a festival of legacy acts, hence the title. Legacy acts can still sell out tours, stadiums and headline festivals. It doesn’t mean a band is “over” or “down” or that they suck. It just means that their most popular and best music is behind them and they’ve amassed enough of a back catalog that they can 100% live off it and tour off it. When every tour becomes a greatest hits tour and you’re no longer playing or promoting your latest music much because most fans don’t care to hear it, you might be a legacy act.

It doesn’t mean you’re no longer loved, but you are loved more for your past accomplishments. Most bands never achieve enough to have a legacy.  GD are one of the lucky few.

I think the only reason why they only played their hits on the Hella Mega Tour was because they had to cut down their setlist to make room for Weezer and Fall Out Boy. It’s the first time they’ve ever done a tour like that. Once they go on tour for 1972, I guarantee they’ll play the singles from the new album, they may even play some FOAM songs, maybe even RevRad and Trilogy songs.